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Mums, is this weird or am I being weird?

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ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 30/01/2024 20:27

Hi, I don't know if neighbour is weird or if I'm just being silly?

I also don't have any children or huge experience with them. I asked a mom friend and think she is still laughing at me!!!

I don't know my neighbours well other than to wave and say hello in passing. I don't even know their names or they mine. I suspect they don't have family nearby.

This evening I get knock on the door. Male neighbour and his little girl. It's clear little girl (5/6) is a little upset. Mum is pregnant and due in 2 weeks and has been taken to hospital for observation. Don't have full story but iron & blood pressure issues.

The man has asked if I can do his daughter's hair every morning for school as he can't plait it. Little girl has gorgeous long hair she always wears in a plait. He can't plait it.

In awkwardness, I tried to show him how. I think he has bigger things on his mind as he didn't really want to learn, just wants me to do it. Anyway I have agreed to plait it every morning while mum is in hospital once his daughter is here at a certain time. What else could I say?

Is this normal and ok? Will the mum be ok with it? Should kids that age not be able to do it themselves? Could he not just put it in a ponytail?

Please tell me it's normal and I'm just overthinking it. I'm not usually awkward but this has thrown me for some reason. I don't know these people.

OP posts:
Cornishclio · 30/01/2024 21:29

Yes it's weird and I think the Dad is being cheeky to outsource doing this daughters hair to a strange woman. Can't men do hair? My son in law does his daughter's hair.

LordSnot · 30/01/2024 21:29

You sound nice. This man (and the similar ones mentioned on this thread) sounds pathetic.

CroccyWoccy · 30/01/2024 21:26

None of us know if he spent an hour with a YouTube video trying to work it out with his daughter getting upset that he was doing it wrong, before he knocked on OPs door in desperation

Whatever the circumstances, he was stressed and his daughter was upset so I would cut the guy some slack.

Yes it is a bit of a weird things to ask but if it is something OP can do without it being a huge inconvenience it is a lovely thing to be able to do to help.

Icanflyhigh · 30/01/2024 21:25

Tonkerbea · 30/01/2024 20:37

I remember my mum going into hospital for an op when I was 5/6. I missed her dreadfully, but I have a distinct memory of my hair not feeling right because she used to always french plait it for me, and dad had no idea how. You're doing a kindness for your neighbours child. Little things can have a big impact.

This.
I did very similar for a little girl at school a few years ago. Her mum was working away and her dad just couldn't grasp plaiting it - he washed and dried it beautifully but just couldn't do the plait - so i did it for her. She's always remembered, she's a customer of mine now and she always mentions it when I see her. It's the little things.

SouthLondonMum22 · 30/01/2024 21:25

ExcitingRicotta · 30/01/2024 21:17

@SouthLondonMum22 Yes, sometimes and somethings obviously do have roots in outdated roles.
Sometimes people have different strengths.
You don’t have enough information from this post to judge this man, and judging someone during a stressful time is never a good look.

Edited

OP offered to show him and he wasn't interested, that's enough for me. He expected it to be done for him.

Again, plaits aren't difficult and if it was so important to his daughter then a decent father would know how to do them. Not expect the nearest woman to do it for him.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 30/01/2024 21:24

If you are going to do woman's work for this man ensure he will do blue jobs for you - un clogging loos, driving heavy things to the dump for you, putting your new flat pack together etc!

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 30/01/2024 21:23

Hmmmmaybe · 30/01/2024 20:36

It’s not harmless by the way - it’s attitudes like this which is why women are exploited the world over

imagibe how crap he would be to his wife

I agree

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 30/01/2024 21:23

Google 'hair love' and send to him!

SouthLondonMum22 · 30/01/2024 21:22

Dacadactyl · 30/01/2024 21:16

Even if I accepted this, do you really think an emergency situation (mum is hospital etc) is the perfect time to learn?

I mean, I'm sure I could change a tyre if I watched enough youtube, but if my husband was in hospital, it wouldn't be my top priority and I'd be knocking on next door for help.

FWIW, my husband isn't useless by any stretch (altho we do generally speaking have traditional gender roles) but he struggled massively with doing DDs hair for dancing when I worked weekends and the bun was never up to scratch...no matter how many times I showed him.

It isn't the perfect time but then he should already know. If he doesn't know, then another hairstyle would be perfectly fine as would looking it up on YouTube if the plaits are important to her.

I bet if he had to do buns every weekend, he soon would've got it with more practice and no one doing it for him.

hellomi · 30/01/2024 21:22

It's a bit odd, yes, but I also think it's quite sweet!

Gobolina · 30/01/2024 21:21

JMSA · 30/01/2024 20:32

Definitely weird!
I have 3 daughters, and other than simple brushing and ponytails, they were left to their own devices with hair. I'm dyspraxic and could never get the hang of a plait.
That said, it wouldn't occur to me to ask a neighbour/stranger to do it Grin

My mum couldn't do a French plait so my friend's mum would do it in the playground before they let us in, if I wanted one that day 🤷‍♀️ ots not that weird.

MuchTooTired · 30/01/2024 21:20

You saying yes to doing it, perfectly normal. I’d be glad that my DD (same age) is getting her hair done how she likes it as she’s quite particular and would be upset about mummy not being able to do it.

If neighbour was my DH though, I’d be pissed that he couldn’t be bothered to learn how to plait her hair and had imposed on our neighbour to do it for him. That’s not her job, it’s his. My Dad wound up a single parent to me back in the olden days before the internet, and he paid the hairdresser to teach him how to do French plaits so he could do them for us. Perhaps I’m being unfair to him, but I feel like it’s a bit of a cop out on his part!

BinkyBeaufort · 30/01/2024 21:19

I'm just trying to imagine a mother taking her daughter to a relatively unknown neighbour to do her hair, and failing.

Dogzombie · 30/01/2024 21:17

It’s a bit odd but I would have said yes too. When I was about 6 my mum went to hospital and my dad swung round to his workplace every morning to get a lovely receptionist to do my hair before school! 🤦🏻‍♀️

ExcitingRicotta · 30/01/2024 21:17

@SouthLondonMum22 Yes, sometimes and somethings obviously do have roots in outdated roles.
Sometimes people have different strengths.
You don’t have enough information from this post to judge this man, and judging someone during a stressful time is never a good look.

PonyPatter44 · 30/01/2024 21:16

It is quite weird... but it's so nice that you are helping this little girl whose mum is ill and whose dad is odd and struggling. Kind people can make all the difference to a child's life.

Dacadactyl · 30/01/2024 21:16

SouthLondonMum22 · 30/01/2024 21:12

and why isn't it unusual? Usually down to stereotypical gender roles which are based on sexism.

If his daughters hair is important to her then he needs to learn. It isn't rocket science.

Even if I accepted this, do you really think an emergency situation (mum is hospital etc) is the perfect time to learn?

I mean, I'm sure I could change a tyre if I watched enough youtube, but if my husband was in hospital, it wouldn't be my top priority and I'd be knocking on next door for help.

FWIW, my husband isn't useless by any stretch (altho we do generally speaking have traditional gender roles) but he struggled massively with doing DDs hair for dancing when I worked weekends and the bun was never up to scratch...no matter how many times I showed him.

Kastri · 30/01/2024 21:15

Learned helplessness or deliberate ineptness really bugs me in men.

girljulian · 30/01/2024 21:14

Redcar78 · 30/01/2024 21:12

When I was 7 my mum went to her home country for a month and my dad asked my teacher to plait my hair every day, which she did 🤷‍♀️

That was still lazy of him but at least your teacher wasn’t a rando

Kastri · 30/01/2024 21:13

This could be the beginning of him outsourcing childcare/housework/babysitting to you.
Be wary and be prepared to say no as it can escalate quickly.

Redcar78 · 30/01/2024 21:12

When I was 7 my mum went to her home country for a month and my dad asked my teacher to plait my hair every day, which she did 🤷‍♀️

SouthLondonMum22 · 30/01/2024 21:12

ExcitingRicotta · 30/01/2024 21:07

You can’t guarantee this, what a load of rubbish.

You sound so desperate to see the misogyny in this.

It’s really not that unusual for men who have never had long hair to lack confidence with long plaits. It’s also not that unusual for parents to have different roles at home, the fact that he might not have mastered plaits doesn’t make him sexist or a bad person.

It is unusual that he’s asked someone he doesn’t know to do it, but maybe they would like to know their neighbours better and he wants to find a way to help his little girl who may be quite anxious about her mum. A bit of consistency with her hair may be important to her.

Edited

and why isn't it unusual? Usually down to stereotypical gender roles which are based on sexism.

If his daughters hair is important to her then he needs to learn. It isn't rocket science.

AnglepoisePond · 30/01/2024 21:08

Hmmmmaybe · 30/01/2024 20:55

i can GUARANTEE you that if it was a boy and he needed help with some manly task like i dunno bike riding he would NOT have asked a random stranger who was male to help his son

he sees women as a vast pool of free labour - as do many of the women in this thread

community is great - community where women do all the work to support men is NOT great

This.

ExcitingRicotta · 30/01/2024 21:07

Hmmmmaybe · 30/01/2024 20:55

i can GUARANTEE you that if it was a boy and he needed help with some manly task like i dunno bike riding he would NOT have asked a random stranger who was male to help his son

he sees women as a vast pool of free labour - as do many of the women in this thread

community is great - community where women do all the work to support men is NOT great

You can’t guarantee this, what a load of rubbish.

You sound so desperate to see the misogyny in this.

It’s really not that unusual for men who have never had long hair to lack confidence with long plaits. It’s also not that unusual for parents to have different roles at home, the fact that he might not have mastered plaits doesn’t make him sexist or a bad person.

It is unusual that he’s asked someone he doesn’t know to do it, but maybe they would like to know their neighbours better and he wants to find a way to help his little girl who may be quite anxious about her mum. A bit of consistency with her hair may be important to her.

lanthanum · 30/01/2024 21:06

I think they'll all be really grateful you've agreed to help out. With mum suddenly not there, they need to try and keep things as normal as possible for the little girl. And maybe it's a chance to get to know them a bit better - and who knows when you might need a favour. Somebody has to be the first to break the ice by asking!

(I remember going away for a week when DD was that age. I told DH that if he took her hairbrush with them when they went to school, I was sure that one of the other mums would do her hair for her in the playground, because I knew he struggled with it. School photos happened while I was away - and I could tell he hadn't asked!)