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Mums, is this weird or am I being weird?

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ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 30/01/2024 20:27

Hi, I don't know if neighbour is weird or if I'm just being silly?

I also don't have any children or huge experience with them. I asked a mom friend and think she is still laughing at me!!!

I don't know my neighbours well other than to wave and say hello in passing. I don't even know their names or they mine. I suspect they don't have family nearby.

This evening I get knock on the door. Male neighbour and his little girl. It's clear little girl (5/6) is a little upset. Mum is pregnant and due in 2 weeks and has been taken to hospital for observation. Don't have full story but iron & blood pressure issues.

The man has asked if I can do his daughter's hair every morning for school as he can't plait it. Little girl has gorgeous long hair she always wears in a plait. He can't plait it.

In awkwardness, I tried to show him how. I think he has bigger things on his mind as he didn't really want to learn, just wants me to do it. Anyway I have agreed to plait it every morning while mum is in hospital once his daughter is here at a certain time. What else could I say?

Is this normal and ok? Will the mum be ok with it? Should kids that age not be able to do it themselves? Could he not just put it in a ponytail?

Please tell me it's normal and I'm just overthinking it. I'm not usually awkward but this has thrown me for some reason. I don't know these people.

OP posts:
mollyfolk · 31/01/2024 20:45

That’s a lovely update. It’s means a lot to have your hair done right during tough times!

Musntapplecrumble · 31/01/2024 20:16

@ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees
Plait done...
Ah that's lovely. Sounds you've made some friends there 🙂

ItIsLobstersAllTheWayDown · 31/01/2024 19:24

While ideally in the long run he will learn to plait hair, etc. (but see a PP, maybe he is dyspraxic as well), practically speaking in the circumstances couples do divide tasks up, and some things just don't crop up until they crop up. The little girl will undoubtedly feel better having her hair look and feel the same with her Dad all worried and the change to routine going on, and it'll be one less thing that Dad doesn't need to stress about while he deals with his wife and unborn child being in hospital, caring for the other, and holding down his job presumably.

I promise you, this request wouldn't have seemed that weird in the circumstances when and where I was bringing my kids up. People seem to get het up now about people just interacting with other people, it's weird to be posting a thread about whether it's weird. It was a reasonable request, nicely made. Although "no I'm sorry that won't work for me, I can show you today but my mornings are too busy" or "and I'm not comfortable with it" or "sorry, not my thing, try a YouTube video, everything is on there now" would also have been fine if that was what you preferred OP and I would've hoped it would've been taken with good grace.

InAPickle12345 · 31/01/2024 19:24

Totally random, but some of life's greatest moments are the totally random, unexpected ones aren't they!

Nice job helping out, it's lovely to have a neighbour you know you could turn to, even if it is for something totally bizarre 😂

Keep us updated on the morning plaits and baby arrivals!

Toomuchgoingon79 · 31/01/2024 19:16

It's very kind of you OP. As they say 'it takes a village'- you are now part of their village! Seriously though, you've provided some routine for this little girl at what must be a frightening and confusing time for her.

peakygold · 31/01/2024 19:15

I can't do a decent plait so they wouldn't ask me a second time.😂

Zanatdy · 31/01/2024 19:15

Lol. That’s a bit random. No a 5 or 6yr old child can’t plait it, but I’m sure the dad can tie it into a loose pony tail. I wouldn’t mind doing it - but it’s a bit odd and random to ask!

Tribblesarelovely · 31/01/2024 19:10

A bit unusual, but I’d do it without a second thought. The most important person is the little girl, I’m sure she’s feeling rather upset and confused and her hair might be really important to her. I’d definitely have another go at teaching the husband to do it though.

SouthLondonMum22 · 31/01/2024 18:53

CroccyWoccy · 31/01/2024 18:42

If he was asking her to do the washing up, I’d agree with you. But the ability to do a plait is something it’s not exactly unreasonable to assume a woman with long hair might be more likely to have learned to do than a man.

And everyone saying ‘it’s takes 5mins to learn from YouTube’ - I had short hair throughout my childhood into my 30s and since I have grown it out I have not acquired the skills to do any kind of neat plait or up-do despite watching numerous videos.

It's unreasonable that a man with a daughter has never learned how to do it.

CroccyWoccy · 31/01/2024 18:52

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 31/01/2024 08:46

So plait done and child happy.

Father is much calmer now. Introduced himself properly this morning and I know all their names now.

Little girl arrives with hairbrush & hair ties and tells me where to start and how to make it tight. Dad apparently tried but "it was loose, he started in the wrong place and didn't look pretty!". Anyway I got it right & she's happy.

His wife's mum is coming when the baby is born and daughter will be staying with a school friend while he goes to the hospital. They think the baby might come earlier. Haven't all the derails but she was taken to hospital in an ambulance yesterday so think they all just got a fright.

You can tell he's been trying to reassure his daughter because she tells me mum is just tired because the baby was kicking alot so she couldn't sleep properly. Little girl also got extra bedtime stories last night. This dad is trying & just wants his daughter to be happy.

I also got a drawing of me & the little girl where we have plaits in our hair. Her mum told her I might like it.

Much happier to help now that I know her mum is aware and happy with it.

This is such a lovely update!

As I suspected, sounds like Dad had tried and failed before asking you rather than immediately assuming this was a “woman’s job”

We live in a very community-spirited neighbourhood and I think it’s wonderful when neighbours can look out for one another. I think this is fabulous!

Ace56 · 31/01/2024 18:44

CroccyWoccy · 31/01/2024 18:42

If he was asking her to do the washing up, I’d agree with you. But the ability to do a plait is something it’s not exactly unreasonable to assume a woman with long hair might be more likely to have learned to do than a man.

And everyone saying ‘it’s takes 5mins to learn from YouTube’ - I had short hair throughout my childhood into my 30s and since I have grown it out I have not acquired the skills to do any kind of neat plait or up-do despite watching numerous videos.

But it’s not the OP’s problem if he can’t do it! It would be like me asking a random guy next door to help de-ice my car every morning because he’s a man so ‘must be good with cars’. Bizarre.

Flamme · 31/01/2024 18:44

Ace56 · 31/01/2024 18:42

I think for me the most bizarre part of this is just the assumption that you’ll do this every day for him, not just as a one off. It’s the entitlement! You're a woman so you’ll do it.

You’re much kinder than me OP, I would probably have given him a puzzled look and done it the first time but then specifically said ‘now you know how to do it - there are also YouTube vids if you get stuck or I’m sure DD can just have a ponytail for a couple of weeks.’

He didn't assume, he asked.

CroccyWoccy · 31/01/2024 18:42

PurpleWhirple · 30/01/2024 23:34

@SummerFeverVenice it's not about him not being able to do a plait and you know it. It's about him seeing women as a pool of people who exist to help/serve him. No way would he have asked another man to plait his daughter's hair. It's nice that the OP agreed, but he's still an entitled twat, stressful situation or not.

If he was asking her to do the washing up, I’d agree with you. But the ability to do a plait is something it’s not exactly unreasonable to assume a woman with long hair might be more likely to have learned to do than a man.

And everyone saying ‘it’s takes 5mins to learn from YouTube’ - I had short hair throughout my childhood into my 30s and since I have grown it out I have not acquired the skills to do any kind of neat plait or up-do despite watching numerous videos.

Ace56 · 31/01/2024 18:42

I think for me the most bizarre part of this is just the assumption that you’ll do this every day for him, not just as a one off. It’s the entitlement! You're a woman so you’ll do it.

You’re much kinder than me OP, I would probably have given him a puzzled look and done it the first time but then specifically said ‘now you know how to do it - there are also YouTube vids if you get stuck or I’m sure DD can just have a ponytail for a couple of weeks.’

Boomer55 · 31/01/2024 17:57

It’s really kind of you to do it. Hopefully, it’ll be the start of a friendship. 👍

Dacadactyl · 31/01/2024 17:46

Hmmmmaybe · 31/01/2024 12:20

@Dacadactyl the whole thread is that the village includes men as well as women

Yes I'm not disputing this, but people are taking umbrage because a man asked a woman for help do a child's hair. But they're totally ignoring the fact that PLENTY of women are no good at French plaits or buns and get their friends/another random mum at dancing to do it.

They're also ignoring the fact that the situation is an emergency and that youtube tutorials about hairdressing aren't at the top of the priority list.

butterpuffed · 31/01/2024 17:29

I don't think it's weird , it's lovely of you to do it .

As the little girl is only 5 or 6 , she probably likes her hair being done the same every day , so may have asked her dad to ask you to do it like her mum does . You said her mum is happy too , so ignore the naysayers in here , they love to stir .

EveryOtherNameTaken · 31/01/2024 17:20

He probs feels out of sorts. I'd defo do it.

bottomsup12 · 31/01/2024 17:16

He's using it as an excuse to flirt with you while the mums away? Maybe having a memory b himself?

mathanxiety · 31/01/2024 17:12

@MyselfYouselfMeYou

I've had a puncture.

I drove the car with the punctured tyre very slowly to the nearest garage where they do repairs and told the man at the desk with the pencil stuck behind his ear what had happened and what needed doing.

When the repair was done (they extracted the nail and patched the tyre, then inflated the rest of the tyres to specs) I paid them what I owed them, and that amount included the time and labour as well as the cost of the glue and the patch, because men tend to value their labour and their time in monetary terms.

They tend to completely devalue or undervalue the time and labour of women performing traditional female labour, to the point where traditional women's labour in teaching and nursing were often considered to be "vocations", and women could be paid less than the men working alongside them in mills, factories, etc.

mathanxiety · 31/01/2024 17:02

AnglepoisePond · 30/01/2024 20:42

Deeply weird. Well, not so much weird as a combination of helpless and entitled.

’Hi, virtual stranger whose name I don’t even know, I’m so unashamed at my own incompetence at performing a basic daily childcare task for my child in the absence of my wife that I’m prepared to ask you to do it every single day, and I’m ignoring your demonstration because I don’t want to learn, I want you to do it.’

Yes to this.

mathanxiety · 31/01/2024 17:01

He's a bit useless. He's also a bit shameless to farm this out to the nearest handy woman. I wonder is he that useless when it comes to nappies, bathing a baby, etc?

However, I'd have agreed to do it, only so that the little girl could feel her life wasn't in turmoil while her mum couldn't be there.

I'd definitely go and knock on their door this weekend though, and teach him the manly art of plaiting. It's not complicated.

His daughter would benefit from having a parent she knows to be competent in taking care of her.

YouAndMeAndThem · 31/01/2024 16:54

That is ridiculous. I was admitted for 14 days overall when I was pregnant then after I had my son and my husband did just fine looking after our daughter, fed her well, made sure she was clean and smart for nursery, did her hair and kept her busy to keep her mind off her Mummy in hospital!! Absolute nonsense that he can't learn to plait hair!!!! It's learned incompetence and it's really quite sickening.

superplumb · 31/01/2024 16:35

Bit weird. He could learn himself but I guess there may be other stresses going on. Maybe the little girl has issues and only wants her hair in a plait and the dad couldn't manage the extra stress if a meltdown. Having said all this,my mum couldn't plait my hair either sometimes my neighbour did it for me but the neighbour and my mum knew each other.

Maybe the dad tried and the little girl hated it??
I think its lovely that yourre doing it

Edit. I should add I'd have no fuckikg idea on how to change a tyre ( hangs head in shame).

SwankyPants · 31/01/2024 16:27

I missed OPs update

I don't think it's weird. He needs help with her hair and probably has no one else to ask.
Maybe the wife suggested asking you.
What's wrong with helping a neighbour out?