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Mums, is this weird or am I being weird?

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ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 30/01/2024 20:27

Hi, I don't know if neighbour is weird or if I'm just being silly?

I also don't have any children or huge experience with them. I asked a mom friend and think she is still laughing at me!!!

I don't know my neighbours well other than to wave and say hello in passing. I don't even know their names or they mine. I suspect they don't have family nearby.

This evening I get knock on the door. Male neighbour and his little girl. It's clear little girl (5/6) is a little upset. Mum is pregnant and due in 2 weeks and has been taken to hospital for observation. Don't have full story but iron & blood pressure issues.

The man has asked if I can do his daughter's hair every morning for school as he can't plait it. Little girl has gorgeous long hair she always wears in a plait. He can't plait it.

In awkwardness, I tried to show him how. I think he has bigger things on his mind as he didn't really want to learn, just wants me to do it. Anyway I have agreed to plait it every morning while mum is in hospital once his daughter is here at a certain time. What else could I say?

Is this normal and ok? Will the mum be ok with it? Should kids that age not be able to do it themselves? Could he not just put it in a ponytail?

Please tell me it's normal and I'm just overthinking it. I'm not usually awkward but this has thrown me for some reason. I don't know these people.

OP posts:
CroccyWoccy · 01/02/2024 10:24

The divergence of views on this is wild - one person's heartwarming tale of neighbourly support is another person's example of the unreasonable imposition of a chauvenist male exploiting women.

I prefer to live in the world where this is a lovely story about helping each other out. The alternative sounds exhausting and miserable!

CroccyWoccy · 01/02/2024 10:19

Ace56 · 31/01/2024 21:59

So you would honestly knock on someone’s door, say 3 doors down, who you’ve never spoken to before and ask them to feed your cat for 2 weeks? Bonkers.

In an emergency when I had to leave my cat for a fortnight and my usual options weren't available, I'd definitely consider knocking on the door of a friendly neighbour who says hello to me and who has made nice comments about my cat in the past (equivalent situation to the OP who has spoken about daughter's hair previously).

Admittedly, most people wouldn't see inability to plait hair as quite the same level of urgency as needing to keep a pet fed, but I can understand in the circumstances of dad being stressed and daughter being upset that it seemed important to them in the moment.

Itstomorrow · 01/02/2024 09:56

Before I got divorced, I had to go on a training course leaving DDs with xh and I had to beg a school mum to brush their hair as he 'couldn't do it'. He still can't and if they are going anywhere from his where I can't get to them, I still have to make arrangements.

You are very kind to do this (if you are, not rtft) and I've always been so grateful to anyone I've had to ask.

afkonholidaynearleek · 01/02/2024 09:51

I'd recommend you show him these videos on how to plait hair, available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+plait+hair

I learnt to plait my hair when I was about 7. I'm now 36 and have only just learnt how to do a French plait in my DD's hair, thanks to YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+plait+hair

Needmorelego · 01/02/2024 09:43

@AndrewGarfieldsLaptop scream away 😂
Edit: and hope you feel better soon 🙂

AndrewGarfieldsLaptop · 01/02/2024 09:42

Needmorelego · 01/02/2024 09:41

@AndrewGarfieldsLaptop if you read the updates the chap is trying and practicing.
No one is going to become good at something overnight or within a couple of days.
It seems the OP is happy, the little girl is happy, the Dad is happy, the mum is happy.

I'm really pleased Mum is happy, I genuinely am. Actually in fact, I'm happy that everyone is happy. I take back being mardy. I'm in a foul mood so I'm going to scream into a pillow for a bit.

Needmorelego · 01/02/2024 09:41

@AndrewGarfieldsLaptop if you read the updates the chap is trying and practicing.
No one is going to become good at something overnight or within a couple of days.
It seems the OP is happy, the little girl is happy, the Dad is happy, the mum is happy.

Livilalaland567 · 01/02/2024 09:40

I'd let him know that you might not be available every morning as you sometimes stay elsewhere, and suggest that he could ask one of his daughter's teachers so you don't feel obliged to do this every day. But it's lovely of you to help.

Ace56 · 01/02/2024 09:36

I also wonder why the child needs to be pandered to so much. She’s 6. If he can’t do a plait, surely he just tells his child ‘sorry, daddy’s tried but I’m really rubbish at plaits. While mummy’s away you can have a ponytail or bunches, which would you like?’

AndrewGarfieldsLaptop · 01/02/2024 09:33

Also to the posters going at me "he did try and couldn't do it!" Erm, practice?

Am I missing something here?

AndrewGarfieldsLaptop · 01/02/2024 09:32

defiant2024 · 01/02/2024 08:36

It's extremely weird and his wife/partner may not like it one bit when she finds out.

Agreed. I think I'd be furious if my husband was bothering neighbours to braid our kids hair.

AndrewGarfieldsLaptop · 01/02/2024 09:30

Needmorelego · 01/02/2024 07:37

@AndrewGarfieldsLaptop and he can do that literally overnight?
He tried to do it and his plait didn't work so he asked for help.
Also asking a neighbour that you don't really know that well for help is quite a "grown up" thing to do.

No sorry, I just think it's quite concerning that a grown man can't plait hair nor has kept trying.

fuckssaaaaake · 01/02/2024 09:22

Also people berating him... I can't do plaits; not sure why as it's simple but I feel like it's the same gene that helps you park which I also can't do. 😹 however I can do loads of things that some can't, just can't quite remember what at the min haha

fuckssaaaaake · 01/02/2024 09:16

It's the kind of weird thing I would get roped into and be happy to help unless it got in the way of my own stuff

saraclara · 01/02/2024 09:08

Lovely update. So many people who want to put the worst possible spin on the request because he's a man.

I'm glad the mum is doing better. Dad and daughter must have been quite anxious.

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 01/02/2024 09:00

Plait 2 completed.

My partner raised a good point last night about what if the baby is overdue and then also has an extended time in hospital, do I really want to be tied to my apartment every morning for 6 weeks (I stay in his a lot couldn't do that). Anyway I got a little smarter.

Little one arrives this morning. I have my hair on a bun which she says us really cool (not sure but I'll take it!).

I asked if she wanted me to put hers in a bun too. Hesitant but ultimately decided no, a plait is best.

When I finished the plait, I asked if she want to see a cool hair trick. She agrees to a took the plait and wrapped it into a bun. She lovely it so I said, we'll leave it in a plait today but I'm going to show daddy how it can be a bun tomorrow or any day I'm not here.

In fairness to him, he watched and tried it twice and got the hang of it. So tomorrow Dad is going her hair. (Today's plait pinned into a bun).

She's doesn't need it done over weekend.
Monday we'll wait and see.
But she definitely wants a plait on Tuesday because it's PE day.

Incidentally, my partner scoffed at poor dad last night & said plaits are easy. Watched a YouTube video and got a demo from me and then balls it up several times. He's an engineer so fairly handy & vexed at himself that he couldn't manage it! Apparently, women have smaller hands which gives us an advantage 🤔

I'll still do her hair whenever she calls but it's nice to see dad getting to grips with a bun which she also seems to like.

To the cynics, there's no alterior motive here. The man simply cannot plait & watching my partner also try last night has really proven to me, it's not lack of effort, it just something some people struggle with.

If this turns to friendship, great, the more the merrier. As for babysitting & cleaning, I doubt it & would be wise to that immediately.

Mum is also doing much better.

OP posts:
defiant2024 · 01/02/2024 08:36

It's extremely weird and his wife/partner may not like it one bit when she finds out.

doilooklikeicare · 01/02/2024 08:24

AndrewGarfieldsLaptop · 01/02/2024 06:07

It's weird and that dad ought to grow up. Hasn't he heard of teaching himself on YouTube?

He did try, it wasn't right, daughter was upset. OP did hair, daughter liked and is happy!

Wallawallawallaby · 01/02/2024 08:07

AnglepoisePond · 31/01/2024 08:49

It’s odd that for you the issue is whether the mother is aware of and happy about you being asked to plait her child’s hair — why is that the key thing for you here?

Because many women would hear ‘daddy took me to X’s house every morning and she did my hair… yes she is nice… yes, she was friendly to daddy…’ etc and jump to the wrong conclusion.

Dads are often lazy about learning this stuff- I’ve lost count of the blokes shoving their daughters at me outside dance classes like it’s a total surprise to them that they need their hair doing like every other bloody week.

Needmorelego · 01/02/2024 07:37

@AndrewGarfieldsLaptop and he can do that literally overnight?
He tried to do it and his plait didn't work so he asked for help.
Also asking a neighbour that you don't really know that well for help is quite a "grown up" thing to do.

doilooklikeicare · 01/02/2024 07:03

noexcusesforlatenessalan · 31/01/2024 22:03

This will be the first favour...he's probably testing the water to see how receptive you will be for cooking tea/ helping with laundry/ doing homework.

Just show him how to do a ponytail or something!

I'm so glad I don't have that thought process.

AndrewGarfieldsLaptop · 01/02/2024 06:07

It's weird and that dad ought to grow up. Hasn't he heard of teaching himself on YouTube?

Tink2345 · 01/02/2024 04:45

To people saying the dad just couldn’t be bothered to learn, this obviously isn’t their first time having a baby, but it is the first time having a baby with another child at home. With all the things they have had to think of and prepare, maybe doing their daughters hair for school (probably always automatically been a mum job) didn’t cross their mind. Whilst I would be a bit thrown off if this happened to me, I wouldn’t denigrate the dad, at least he’s trying to solve the problem and make sure his daughter is happy. Presumably he is staying while the hair is plaited so not left with a stranger and little one has less upheaval in a strange time of life as mummy disappears and comes back with a baby attached.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 01/02/2024 04:39

Panterus · 30/01/2024 20:32

I find it very odd.

He could have learned to do a simple plait in minutes from a video online.

Feels like he's just outsourced it to the nearest woman.

Exactly my thoughts. Do you have very long hair that's always plaited ? Or did he just think of you because you're the closest vagina.

mathanxiety · 01/02/2024 04:32

SummerFeverVenice · 31/01/2024 22:51

You should speak to your neighbours and introduce yourself when you move in. That’s the grown up thing to do.

OP and her neighbour have spoken to each other before. Saying hello, waving, going “lovely day isn’t it”, or the postman left this package for you ant mine…isn’t someone who is a random stranger or someone you have never spoken to.

I make an effort when I move into a new home to meet my neighbours and have a chit chat. My neighbours next door, we take turns mowing each others front as it’s all one piece of lawn. I share plant bulbs and cuttings. They share veg from their allotment.

So yes, when we knock on each others doors we can ask each other for help, or if I happen to see my 80yr old retired neighbour attacking the wisteria on his garage roof while his deaf 85yr old wife is trying to cut it up to put in the green bin, I am more than comfortable popping out and offering to shimmy up the ladder and do that bit for him and give them a hand. Or when my other neighbour’s cat lost her collar in my garden (it is chipped), she was happy to ask me to poke around my bushes for it and we did a game of “getting warmer” and had a good old laugh and catch up.

My back fence neighbour has a wheelchair using husband and she is right now having a double masectomy for breast cancer. So YES I will be popping over to her street when she is out of hospital on Friday to ensure she is stocked with food, milk, and gets any help she needs- I will run errands for her and so on .

That sounds to me like a very normal, neighbourly way of living.

I don't understand the fearfulness and suspicion of neighbours I see people posting about here. People are 'strangers' until you get to know them, and you get to know them by talking and making the effort to find points of connection.

I can also see why the specific man-hands-child-related-task-to-woman scenario has raised hackles. He really should know how to braid his child's hair.