To open my window on the bus

Surely the people on the bus are dressed for the weather conditions whilst waiting at the bus stop? So they aren’t going to be cold on a bus with a few windows open. YANBU OP.

Pray theater because even in the depths of winter, you can be gasping for Breath, cheek by jowel standing up on a bus with water poring down the windows, stuck not moving.
I can't imagine that in summer, people will be fainting.

Measles is kicking off big time and you can still get it inspite of being inncoclatead, along with many other air borne diseases.

Who would want any of them if you can mitigate their risks with occasional window opening.

Most of the buses on the routes near me don’t have any windows that can be opened or closed and it’s been that way for years

Most of the new electric buses are the same

So how will the OP cope if her buses change of design and she doesn’t have a choice?

@PyongyangKipperbang
I've had 3 close relatives with various disabilities and issues we had together work around in different ways when out and about.
In your dads case we would have snoods snd things because we have just come out of a pandemic.

I'm sure it's extremely stressful having a dad vulnerable in that way but other people are in need of fresh air for the same time reasons because they are immune compromised etc.

When I've been struggling with my relatives I couldn't expect others to understand their needs nor change their behaviour due to their needs.

The compromise is bursts of fresh air.

Being outside in the cold was ok for my father if he was bundled up and breathed through a thick scarf for example. Gets on bus, takes scarf off, person in front opens window and a fast draught of cold air hits him in the face.....yes it causes real problems. Its why we cant risk public transport for him anymore. 99 times out of 100 its fine, but when someone like the OP, who is the only person in the world with a real illness, does this it has put him in hospital and on oxygen.

Correct. Not in the cold for very long at all. That's the reality of some disabilities. Be grateful you don't know.

If the OP is as insufferable as this at work, I would imagine that her colleagues and students would be more than happy that she is off sick again!

I just don't understand if sitting on a bus with open windows is so dangerous for some people, surely that means they can't be outside at all?

A cold draught straight through a window and into my fathers face can (and has) made him very ill very quickly, it stops him being able to breathe properly.

But hey, as long as the OP can get to work, who the hell cares right? In fact, why not call me a liar and laugh....oh no she already did that.

Having regular open and closing windows won't make anyone instantly cold it takes time for the air to cool down and heat up. It takes moments to let proper air in and reduce stale air.

A cold draught!!. Fresh air!.. Even for a few moments every now and then windows should be opened definitely to clear the air.

Op I really feel for you, I struggle on short bus journeys and I run to open every other window if no one is on it.

Right in one of the lock down lulls we were on a hot train and we couldn't get a window open even though it felt like the air con was broken and no train staff had a key that worked.

@notknowledgeable you have a very apt username.

I'll be sure to tell my mum that. She will love to know that her experiences of her own arthritis where if she gets too cold she can't physically stand up are not incapacitating. Maybe she reacts differently because she is not a teacher and therefore not as special as you.

Tell me you don't know anything about Multiple Sclerosis or COPD without telling me you know nothing about Multiple Sclerosis or COPD....

You realise both those conditions are life-limiting, right? And exacerbations can and do put people in hospital?

And exacerbations can be aggravated by the cold?

And you might want to have a word with the Arthritis Foundation as you appear to be the miraculous sole person whose arthritis isn't affected by the cold. There are reams of articles in medical journals dedicated to the importance of arthritis sufferers avoiding getting cold but I'm sure you know better.....

Your amusement at the seriousness of other people's severe medical conditions really just does underline what a thoroughly unpleasant individual you are.

If you'd come on here and said "I know other people need the window closed for their health reasons, but I need it open for my reasons and it's causing me no end of problems" you'd have received lots of sympathy.

But by refusing to acknowledge that ANYONE else might have a very valid medical reason to need to avoid the cold, you've just shown yourself up to be not only selfish but deeply ignorant.

Lol. Also a teacher, also take the bus to school. You are totally insane and I feel incredibly sorry for your students. There is absolutely no way that schools are still implementing a window open policy in 2024.

Please either post the risk assessment or DM me a copy. At the very least, that part of your diatribe is total shite.

Ah, but OP has said sitting on a bus with the window open doesn’t incapacitate anybody. So you must be imagining things. OP’s a TEACHER, don’t you know?

Try Access to Work. They might fund a taxi.

Imagine being this dismissive of other people's health conditions but wanting consideration for yours at the same time. I guess I have to acknowledge the boldness of it, really.

Taxis? Surely if this is such an issue and we'll documented via health care professionals you'll be eligible for PIP.

Unfortunately, if there really is no other alternative, you also have to think of others.

The bus is not aware of your circumstances nd therefore you also aren't aware if others.

Get a disability lanyard, that may help.

Do you have any proof it's from the bus though? You are a teacher.. Why is it the bus and no other factor in your life such as supermarkets etc?

*"Never mind that people could die of covid or flu or chest infections if the windows are shut, but suffer no more than temporary discomfort if the windows are open.

And no, don't try and invent some convoluted scenario in which someone is going to have their life put at risk by the windows being open. "*

Temporary discomfort???!

Convoluted scenarios??!

That's your response to the very serious medical conditions that PP are describing?? The medical conditions that could very easily land them in hospital or in severe pain and bed bound?

Multiple sclerosis, arthritis, COPD....I think I'd describe those as a little more than temporary discomfort.

Jesus fucking Christ. The level of your selfishness knows no bounds.

You're not the only person that matters. But you are the only one on this thread insisting that you're the most important.

Absolutely no point talking to people like you. Disgusting. Just disgusting.

May karma work its magic and jam shut every bus window you ever try to open....

A car would likely be more beneficial?

I understand your situation but I feel its a big entitled ti believe the world revolves around you.

I don't understand why you are even using public transport if it makes you so unwell