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To open my window on the bus

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notknowledgeable · 28/01/2024 12:17

It seems to be a mission for some people to fight to have all the windows on the bus closed, for all of every journey? Why? Before covid this wasn't an issue - now it seems people have a point to make.

I get there can be a chilly draught, but just put your coat on, or put your hood up?

I am immunocompromised, and wear a mask and open the window on my way to and from work. Every single time I get ill, ( currently a couple of times a month) my classes are left with non specialist agency staff. I take all the precautions I reasonably can to keep from catching anything, but this constant battle on the bus every working day is really wearing my down.

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willWillSmithsmith · 08/02/2024 19:09

SameBreakfast · 08/02/2024 11:59

‘arrive at work late, cold, wet and muddy’

What is wrong with being cold? That’s a good thing isn’t it?! Not an issue for others to be cold!!

Good point. OP doesn’t like being cold but doesn’t care if other people are.

Numberfish · 08/02/2024 18:58

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Littlemisscapable · 08/02/2024 18:21

This is already been covered but to reiterate....wearing a mask and opening the window (and freezing all the other passengers) categorically will NOT prevent you getting ill. I do hope you are not a science teacher.

snoopyfanaccountant · 08/02/2024 17:52

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OP seems to think that being a teacher gives her some kind of extra entitlement.

RubyEarWax · 08/02/2024 17:22

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Droppit · 08/02/2024 17:12

The first thing I want to do when I get on a bus is open a window. Cannot understand how people can stand the stuffy air.

Str8talkin · 08/02/2024 13:49

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amicissimma · 08/02/2024 13:24

What a storm in a teacup!

If you want to open the window, open it. If you want to shut it, shut it. If there is someone in the immediate vicinity who will be affected by the change, it is courteous to ask them first and sit elsewhere if they ask you not to.

Likewise if someone wants to open/close a window near you and asks if you mind it is quite OK to say you do.

But it's individual preference, tempered with concern for our fellow citizens. No need for all this invoking syndromes or medical conditions, acronyms, indispensibility etc. We can all find some reason to justify our preferences.

iLovee · 08/02/2024 12:02

It's getting boring now.

SameBreakfast · 08/02/2024 12:00

I am just imagining how the OP would have coped on the tube in rush-hour London during the pandemic? I expect her school would have had to struggle along somehow without her very important input.

SameBreakfast · 08/02/2024 11:59

notknowledgeable · 08/02/2024 06:10

its been a difficult couple of days on the bus. Very aggressive window slammers not allowing anyone to open a window, and issuing name calling and threats. A couple of us have got off twice, which means a long walk with heavy bags in pouring rain along unlit roads with unpaved footpaths.

It is so stressful. I am really anxious about setting off for work again today. Getting off in the morning is really hard, as I arrive at work late, cold, wet and muddy and behind myself all day. Yesterday all my year 9 books were wet too. Getting off on the way home is not so bad.

Lets see what today brings

‘arrive at work late, cold, wet and muddy’

What is wrong with being cold? That’s a good thing isn’t it?! Not an issue for others to be cold!!

NoWordForFluffy · 08/02/2024 11:52

You are a teacher, but you are really not as important as you think you are. You must be a nightmare at work.

Fixed that for you!

snoopyfanaccountant · 08/02/2024 11:47

MIL has rheumatism and if she was forced to sit in a draught on a bus because the windows were open, she would be in agony for days. No one's health trumps anyone else's. She is out and about all the time and enjoys country walks but being out in the fresh air is completely different from air being forced through a window as a bus hurtles along the motorway at 70 mph.
Oh, I forgot to mention that she is a retired teacher.

SameBreakfast · 08/02/2024 11:44

notknowledgeable · 28/01/2024 19:36

Well, there are quite a few pages I have not caught up on, but the vote at the front says it all really 60/40. This is pretty much what it is on the bus - about 40% of people want to sit by an open window, and about 60% seem to want every window on the bus tight shut.

Never mind that people could die of covid or flu or chest infections if the windows are shut, but suffer no more than temporary discomfort if the windows are open.

And no, don't try and invent some convoluted scenario in which someone is going to have their life put at risk by the windows being open.

This very strongly illustrates the sheer selfishness among much of the population. "I will put your life at risk to save myself from temporary discomfort" - and no doubt these people are the first to complain if their child does not have a teacher, or their parent does not have health care.

If I sound angry, it is because I am angry. How did we end up with such a self centred, self absorbed selfish population?

Tomorrow the battle will start all over again. I get more and more assertive all the time. I see so many other people over ruled and bullied when they are just trying to get to their place of work safely. I originally was quite meek and mild and backed down and even got of the bus quite regularly. Not now. If I don't stand up for myself and everyone else like me on the bus, then the city really will end up back to sending students home because there are no teacher, and sending elderly people home because there are no carers.

This forum is full of people describing the horrendous affects of the current viruses and bacteria going round. Weeks and months of incapacity in many cases, and multiple hospital admissions. Yet people don't want to take basic hygiene precautions - fine, get ill, whether you are immunocompromised or not, you don't want these germs, but go ahead and get them - just don't force everyone around you to take that risk too, just because you don't want a draught around your neck

They are germs everywhere. Even if you have the most perfect bus journey with beautiful breezes wafting through, you still may get unwell and there is still a world of germs out there.

You are a teacher, but you are really not as important as you think you are. You must be a nightmare at work.

SameBreakfast · 08/02/2024 11:20

notknowledgeable · 28/01/2024 17:20

Open windows are not going to cause your kids to be ill

Cold air can trigger asthma attacks. Your username appears to be true.

There were some teachers like you during the pandemic. The OTT self-importance does not engender respect amongst students.

SameBreakfast · 08/02/2024 11:14

notknowledgeable · 28/01/2024 14:36

Do you have children in school? Do you prefer it when those children have teachers?

You are coming across as very pompous, selfish and self-important. There may be people whose illnesses get triggered by being cold on the bus and yes, some of them may even be teachers.

SkySecret · 08/02/2024 11:10

I used to hate open windows on buses when I was at school, especially on a prolonged journey. Thankfully I don’t need to use the cattlewagon anymore!

I find it so interesting that school germs all know to head over to the open windows and leave the room day in, day out! Fascinating! 🤣

Poor kids having constant open windows through the winter.

willWillSmithsmith · 08/02/2024 11:07

You’d rather walk along unlit roads and unmade footpaths in the dark, wet and windy weather with heavy bags rather than stay on a bus because you can’t have the windows opened (even though, as people say, you could stay near the door which opens on a regular basis). That just sounds nuts.

108Anj · 08/02/2024 10:53

hummmmm · 28/01/2024 22:04

If they can't be in the cold how do they get to the bus stop and wait for the bus? 🤔

There's a difference between being outside in the cold, and sitting still in an icy blast of wind

hummmmm · 08/02/2024 10:05

NoWordForFluffy · 08/02/2024 07:40

Weird, you said this on the first page: I'm not well enough to cycle or walk or un to work, when I am fit and well, I do. but that is likely to be years away still.

But you clearly are well enough to walk, as you've chosen to do it, in poor conditions, when you could've just stayed on the bus for a few minutes.

Sounds like you just like to martyr yourself really.

what?
they said they walked part of it, not that they walked the whole thing.
Most people who can walk to the bus stop are capable of walking PART of their bus trip, whether that's half a mile or five. That doesn't mean they can walk the whole distance.

NoWordForFluffy · 08/02/2024 09:39

MustBeNapTime · 08/02/2024 09:33

You said previously: "I'm not well enough to cycle or walk or un to work" (sic), so how on earth did you manage a long walk with heavy bags, letting your students books get damaged in the process? Why didn't you just stand near the front of the bus where the doors are opening and closing regularly? And really, someone else is also immunocompromised and been called names and threatened for attempting to open the windows and so has got off the bus with you? It's nice you have another martyr to compare notes with.

Maybe this is becoming a work of fiction?!

Why would you do something which would make you late plus cold and wet to boot? As well as sounding dangerous! Bizarre behaviour if true.

Viviennemary · 08/02/2024 09:35

On a summers day fine. In this weather absolutely not.

MustBeNapTime · 08/02/2024 09:33

notknowledgeable · 08/02/2024 06:10

its been a difficult couple of days on the bus. Very aggressive window slammers not allowing anyone to open a window, and issuing name calling and threats. A couple of us have got off twice, which means a long walk with heavy bags in pouring rain along unlit roads with unpaved footpaths.

It is so stressful. I am really anxious about setting off for work again today. Getting off in the morning is really hard, as I arrive at work late, cold, wet and muddy and behind myself all day. Yesterday all my year 9 books were wet too. Getting off on the way home is not so bad.

Lets see what today brings

You said previously: "I'm not well enough to cycle or walk or un to work" (sic), so how on earth did you manage a long walk with heavy bags, letting your students books get damaged in the process? Why didn't you just stand near the front of the bus where the doors are opening and closing regularly? And really, someone else is also immunocompromised and been called names and threatened for attempting to open the windows and so has got off the bus with you? It's nice you have another martyr to compare notes with.

Heckythump1 · 08/02/2024 09:26

Nah I hate it when people open windows on buses, I've got Raynaud's and really feel the colds.
I'm sorry but your needs don't trump the needs of others. You have no idea why other people don't want the windows open.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 08/02/2024 09:20

I also find it hard to believe more than one person decided a long walk in the rain was a good idea

OP did you question them as to if that's why they got off?

Maybe it was just their stop