To open my window on the bus

If you are as much of a self important self obsessed sanctimonious pain at work as you are about a bloody bus window then dont expect much in the way of a leaving gift. Very big party at work the day after though......

Nope

No one could possibly need them closed or be more important than the OP

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Well that not actually true op.

i have a circulation disorder which is massively affected by changes in temperature or for example being stuck in the cold draught caused by an open bus/car window (or the stupid cold from air on on train buildings but that’s not for this thread)When it’s bad due to being triggered I can amongst many other symptoms be in huge pain, sometimes be unable to use hands properly or have degradation in skin etc. and yes time off work sometimes.

I’m not saying you’re wrong or right about the windows it’s not my place to decide someone’s need that’s opposite to my need is less important.

im only bringing it up to highlight that you don’t actually know others circumstance's and while I’m not saying you are wrong I think that maybe you are potentially making some assumptions in a situation where you can’t actually know that someone else doesn’t have a need that’s opposite to you.

on a good note though @notknowledgeable the weather soon will hopefully mean it won’t be an issue for you soon as all the windows will be open! 😉 doesn’t help just now though!

I did want to add though. I’m sorry you’re so ill, it must be very hard for you. I hope things at least stay stable for you.

Open windows / cold air can be life-threatening for some conditions e.g. if it triggers an asthma attack

I read all the OPs posts and then the ones from name change onwards. She totally shifted my opinion. Previously I was supportive of her having windows open, by the end I was completely 100% on the side of shutting the windows. The constant harping about being a subject specialist and how that must trump everything else was absolutely ridiculous. Shut. Those. Windows.

because of a bus window which is life changing or life threatening if closed, and mildly irritating if left open

This is the most ridiculously dramatic thread that has been going on for too long...

As if the conclusion is that a teacher quits their job and abandons 100s of kids and someone else quits Chemo

Because of a bus window

That's a real shame for the kids but quitting is probably the best decision. Your health must come first.

And there is one less experienced specialised teacher in the country now, so if you have children- the tough titties are on you and them, I am afraid.

I am going to have an early retirement, and easy life, and find a local non teaching job I can walk to

do you honestly think I didn't consider all options before jacking in my whole career? I can't drive and the cost of a taxi is several universes beyond what could be considered - I would be working at a loss

well, for a start, I am normally one of the first on the bus and secondly, even if I am not, I still need ventilation. Anyway, I am sure you will all be relieved to hear I have resigned, as I cannot continue to put my health at risk on the bus. This is medical advice. There is limited risk to continuing to teach, but an unacceptable risk travelling on the bus. I know I wont be replaced, so hundreds more teens every year will be going without a specialised teacher in a core subject. Still, this is the case for so many thousands in the UK now, that a few more hundred hardly seems to matter.

My friend I travel with who is undergoing chemotherapy has stopped chemotherapy early now, as she feels it is the lesser risk, having seen me nearly die of flu in the last few months.

Thanks for the people who suggested looking into a mobility scooter, I did look in to it, unfortunately there isn't one that can do this journey, it is too far, too steep and the terrain is too rough.

I believe someone actually gave a list of medical conditions exacerbated by the cold upthread. Like anemia, joint pain etc.

Basically OP, if you get on the bus and the windows are open, then consider it your lucky day. But, if they're closed, it's tough titties I'm afraid!

A car or a taxi perhaps? So it's just you and max. one other person. But certainly not the petri dish that is public transport!

In terms of 'window etiquette' on public transport, I'm of the belief that passengers already on board call the shots over those who get on further along the route. First come, first served and all that!

So if 10 people are already on the bus with the windows shut, it might be considered bad form for one person to get on 30 mins along the route and start opening windows. At the very least, that person should ask if the others passengers mind.

This of course works the other way, too: if the windows are already all open and one person gets on, decides it's cold and wants to close them all. That would be me - and I would just have to suck it up!

Bet they were gutted having to be cold again, thank heavens it’s warming up.

well, I can't find my original log in, so I have set up another. I went back to work this week, finally. That is how long it took, that is how long two hundred teens were without a specialist teacher.....

Fresh air is healthier for everyone. The people who can't tolerate outdoor temperature air in winter should be the ones taking steps to deal with that, not stopping people doing the correct thing to minimise viral transfer for everyone.

It's not really any different to wanting clean water, weirdly you didn't get people whining about that cramping their style.although maybe there were and they all carried on drinking from bad sources and got cholera while proving their point. Oooh the clean water makes my teeth hurt! I'm going to drink this puddle water instead.

If you can get something that helps mitigate your own risk without causing other people discomfort then you should do it.

Protect yourself and don't harm others. Simple

OP while you shouldn't need to do it, you should be able to just open the window, there are small battery hepa filters that you can carry and point at yourself when on public transport surrounded by delights such as are on this thread.

Munchkin do a very portable one (size of a pringles can). The smartair qt3 is larger to carry but more effective. There are some threads on twitter comparing various ones.

It's hardly groundbreaking, the idea that fresh air helps to stop the spread of airborne pathogens. A little known lady called Florence Nightingale was quite keen on it.

And why do they bother with these infection control measures, when the patients would probably get ill in other environments anyway do you suppose?
Maybe, just maybe, they do the best to minimise infections in the area they can control. A bit like opening an openable window on a bus. It's not like OP is carrying one of those emergency hammer things to smash the windows out.

Take a paracetamol if you get a headache, not fair on people who get really cold (even if they already wear multiple layers including a hat, scarf and gloves)

I always open the Windows on the bus - I get a headache if no air and stuffy - stick a hat on if you feel cold - not fair on people that get ill with no fresh air !