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"We're on good money"

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FunionsRFun · 28/01/2024 09:44

When a poster says they are on good money or a good salary, what figure comes into your head? For me it's £70k for an individual, and £100k for a household.
For what it's worth I am not on good money!

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sunnydayhereandnow · 28/01/2024 10:08

Yes, it's absolutely relative to outgoings. My salary is about 78k, which I always thought was really great money, but with interest rate hikes my mortgage repayments are now over 40% of my take-home, which has moved me from having some money to put into savings each month and seeming to have enough for whatever I needed, to not having much financial wiggle room at all. I'm a single parent and while I wouldn't say I'm struggling, after childcare and other non-negotiable bills, there's definitely not money to spare for bigger outgoings and I've been consciously looking for places to cut down a bit more. I'm not worried in the long run as my mortgage is paying for a nice apartment and I'm paying into a good pension, so I still feel that my financial situation is good, and I absolutely chose to buy an apartment at the upper range of what I could afford - but tbh the COL and interest increases took me by surprise - I hadn't expected in my mid 40s to be feeling the financial pinch I did in my mid 20s.

You're penalized for being a single parent who earns well - extra taxes, little or no help with childcare and having to pay back child benefit. It's really unfair as a system

WhiteLily1 · 05/02/2025 23:20

Has to be over 90k at least for me to think good money. But then im
in the SE

CountryMumof4 · 05/02/2025 23:15

I guess it's all relative really. My husband makes out that we're destitute, but we manage to pay all our bills/mortgage/childcare costs fine, and I can still treat myself and the children and he continues with his (expensive) hobby. Do we have a lot in savings? No. But we can cope with emergencies that come our way. To some, we'd be rich and extremely fortunate, but to others we'd have practically nothing. I count us lucky that we're not in a dire financial situation at the moment and hope to continue that way.

GiddyRobin · 05/02/2025 23:11

Combined, our salary comes out as around 130k, not including bonuses. However, we both have other mediums of work (DH is a violinist, I'm an author and I make/sell something which is extremely niche) which boosts that. So all together closer to 200k. I'm 35 and he's 40, so that's likely to increase over the next 2 - 5 years. It slowed for various reasons for a while (injury, kids).

But we live in the NW, are mortgage free after renovating an old property, and debt free. So it goes a long way. We're not big spenders and are good at saving.

CharSiu · 05/02/2025 23:10

DH and I had some years where we were on good money, almost 90k between us, I worked PT at the time and we had zero mortgage as paid off and DS was at secondary school so no childcare. Plus up North.

InDogweRust · 05/02/2025 23:08

Dependings on location & family type. To me "good money" is having plenty for housing costs and bills, an annual family holiday in school holidays, not having to worry or count the pennies to afford a takeaway on the weekend, clothes & gifts, the costs of christmas.

With kids:

  1. London & the naice bits of the south east (plus a handful of posh bits of north & Scotland) : single income 100k, family 150k.
  2. Other parts of the south/nicer Midlands : single income 70k, family 100k
  3. Less naice Midlands/Northern cities:single income 50k family 80k.
  4. Cheapest small towns (mainly north, wales, scotland, NI) - single income 40k, family 65k. Basically because housing costs are so low.
MidnightMeltdown · 05/02/2025 23:01

Surprised by people saying 40k. 40k is about the median salary for a full time job. Does average count as good?

I'd say that 'good money' is at least 70k

overthinkersanonnymus · 05/02/2025 23:00

I'd say good money is about £50k.

I'm on £30k and feel like I'm on Ok money.

Mandylovescandy · 05/02/2025 22:49

I think you get used to what you have and adjust expectations accordingly so it can be hard to feel like you are well off. I think I am definitely now on good money (£70k so 3900/month) but with mortgage (which I am admittedly overpaying), other bills, childcare, kids activities etc plus recent expenses (car fixes, boiler breakdown etc) I don't feel like I have very much disposable income

JustMarriedBecca · 05/02/2025 22:35

Household income of over £200k. We are on good money compared with the majority of parents at our kids school and our wider family experience.
I am the worst off of my friends whose family income varies from £300k to £2 million + a year. It's all relative.
They live down South. We moved up North.

RosscA · 05/02/2025 22:30

My reply probably reflects how I feel living in the UK right now. I earn £70k and my other half about £120k. Seems a ridiculous amount of money based on where we live (Yorkshire). Don’t get me wrong, we’re very comfortable but do I feel well off? Not really.

Mumof2NDers · 09/02/2024 23:57

I earn just over £30k which is very good money in the job I’m in. Most are on minimum wage.

Version · 29/01/2024 12:13

This ⬆️ is the problem: people are not interpreting "good money" to mean "a decent salary". They are making inferences that a "good salary" means somebody is financially comfortable. All you can tell from a salary is the net earnings per month. It tells you nothing about whether someone is financially comfortable, as the many examples in the thread demonstrate: you can be very comfortable with far lower earnings or really struggling with far higher earnings because that other factors that impact your overall financial position cannot be inferred just from income i.e. cost of living where you are, how much childcare you require, housing costs (very different if you bought many years ago so have low/ no mortgage or can live in a cheap area/ have social housing), whether anybody in the household is disabled, whether you are a single parent so paying all costs alone and taxed more on your income, etc.

Nobody would purchase a business because it has high revenues without knowing its costs or whether it makes a profit. Likewise looking at income alone for a person and not considering costs tells you nothing about whether that person is comfortable financially and it's astonishing really that so many posters have made this false inference from earnings alone to believing they can ascertain someone's lifestyle or financial position from that alone.

Noicant · 29/01/2024 08:28

My instinct is good money is over 60k for an individual, I think that’s comfortable but not luxurious. No idea about wealth.

FunionsRFun · 29/01/2024 08:15

Thepeopleversuswork · 28/01/2024 17:00

I always find it astonishing that people can't recognise how subjective this situation is and constantly tip up to post daft questions about people's income. Obviously the definition of "good money" varies massively according to context. Principally your outgoings and where you live.

If you live in a deprived part of the UK £35k pa could be "good money". It certainly wouldn't be good money if you lived in Mayfair and worked in hedge funds. Ditto you could live rurally with no mortgage and no children and £35k will go a long way. If you have six children and a large mortgage on a townhouse in London it will be eaten up in a couple of months.

Why is this concept so hard to grasp?

Oh no- I grasp it. I was just interested in what assumptions people make when they read that phrase. Like you said it gives very little information, especially when asking for financial help

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caringcarer · 28/01/2024 19:58

No. I don't gain any financial advantage by gifting £3k except it won't be included for inheritance tax if I live 7 years. My DC won't have to pay tax on it either because it's in the exemp category as only £3k. I've already paid tax on it as it's included as part of my income.

Optimistic66 · 28/01/2024 19:48

CaineRaine · 28/01/2024 09:48

To me it’s relative to their outgoings. I take it to mean they can live a comfortable life and still meet all their financial commitments.

this! When i was in shropshire and earnt 30k i felt like it was good money.

Now i live in london and earn 70k and after my childcare costs/mortgage (£1850 - 3 bed small terrace) /travel - don't have much left over. I have a smaller house, longer commute and work far more hours. However i would say it a good salary.

TheDefiant · 28/01/2024 18:49

In my group of friends I'm the only one who still qualifies for child benefit. All the others are in 2 income families, where (at least) one person earns more than £60k.

I worked this out as they were moaning about having to repay child benefit (and some didn't know how much child benefit was because they haven't had it for so long!)

We also have the smallest house. All of these friends will inherit well. DH and I will inherit nothing.

However I still feel like DH and I are on "good enough" money. (Though our mortgage fix ends later this year and DC goes to Uni).

We've eaten away at our debt, over paid the mortgage as much as we can, save into our pensions and have some disposable income to spend on little luxuries, ourselves and our DC.

I count myself lucky every single day. I'm very grateful.

For us good enough is £80,000 gross pa.

Foxblue · 28/01/2024 18:45

Version · 28/01/2024 16:35

@Foxblue the point I've made is that outgoings are not always based on "life choices" in any meaningful sense i.e. they are outside the person's control (illogical tax systems, being a lone parent, costs for a modest home in the area of the country they need to live in for work, costs of childcare for an average family size of one to two children, whether anybody in the household is disabled).

There seems to be some cognitive dissonance also that when people earn a higher than average salary they are deemed "lucky" or "privileged" rather than generally that being achieved by working hard at school, doing many qualifications and/ or years of working long hours for career progression and being wise in their career choices. Whereas for people who earn low incomes as a result of having not done some or all of the above, it is always apparently not a choice and "no fault of their own", not "life choices". And their outgoings aren't "life choices" either. 😆 A slightly illogical and internally inconsistent world view.

Sorry - I was more commenting on the different perspectives here compared to how I've always heard it used, rather than disagreeing!
And I do see your point on 'luck/privilege' v hard work, as I see it a lot when office workers are discussed vs trade workers. There's a lot of division about people in 'cushty' office jobs vs being out in all weather's, that disregards the fact that office jobs cover a massive range of specialisms!

I will say that personally (as someone who makes 'good' money in one of those aforementioned office jobs) that while I have worked hard, and do not come from a moneyed background, I do personally attribute some of my (very minor compared to some of the jobs/salaries) success to privilege. I am white, found school relatively easy, am not disabled in any way, local state school was decent, and while there was some turbulence had an overall stable home life. A decent start. Not everyone is so lucky! So while I also worked hard, I also have privilege. I would (and do) disagree with anyone telling me that it was entirely down to hard work, as much as I would disagree with someone telling me it was entirely down to privilege.

Marmut · 28/01/2024 18:38

@Jennyjojo5 I started working in UK when I was 35, before that, my earning was negligible (born and grew up in a developing country). So I had a lot to catch up in terms of pension, buying a house, etc.

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edissa · 28/01/2024 17:58

DP and I earn 90-100k jointly, and I consider this good money. We live in the north too, so cheaper housing etc.

Logainm · 28/01/2024 17:51

cowonthecommon · 28/01/2024 17:22

I earn in the early 30's, and to me this is 'good money'. I find my job worthwhile and I feel I'm making a difference. I'm a single parent, yet I can pay all my bills, and I have a good work-life balance. I spend a lot of time with my daughter and though we don't do extravagant activities, and have only been abroad twice, we have a nice life, I think. I'm actually really grateful!

Good post.

OP, as you must be aware, ‘good money’ is a completely meaningless, subjective concept.

Aptique · 28/01/2024 17:47

I'm in an area where a matchbox is almost 2million and rentals average 4-6k. So good money would be in income of at least 150-200 each.

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