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Landlords, would you consider this if your tenants asked?

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DesperateTenant · 26/01/2024 03:47

I have rented my current home for 13 years. I am a good tenant, I keep the house in excellent shape and care for it as if it was my own. I have never asked for anything, rent is always paid on time.

Landlord has decided to sell and I only discovered this when someone knocked on my door wanting a sneaky viewing. They showed me the listing on Rightmove, complete with pictures I was completely unaware were taken.

I am shocked and desperate not to move. I came from nothing and I've made a life for me and my children here. We have a real community around us. I'm at the point where I'll be able to buy locally within 6 months and staying in the area is so important to me.

I completely understand that legally I am not entitled to be told when the LL is selling and have no rights to ask for anything from the LL and I don't know their personal situation.

But, for the landlords out there, in these circumstances if your long term tenant asked if you would consider waiting 6 months and offered to pay more rent (currently pay £850, would offer £1150) would you?

Would it be completely unreasonable for me to ask this?

In 6 months I'd have enough to buy the house I'm in and would do so in a heartbeat.

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Nextity · 06/02/2024 11:28

Before you resign yourself to moving away, make sure you get in contact with all the local estate agents (including the one listing yours) to explain what you are looking for. There may have something perfect that hasn’t quite been listed yet.

LakieLady · 06/02/2024 11:17

Beautiful3 · 06/02/2024 08:41

Ah just read your update. He is a greedy arsehole. I'm so sorry. Maybe it's better this way. I hope you find a bigger and better house, come back here and tell us when you do. I also hope he sells it for far less than you offered, and that they mess him around 😆

I agree, possibly delusional too, if he's expecting to get more than the asking price (although I concede the market might still be very different away from my part of the SE, where properties are taking much longer to go under offer than they were a year ago, and prices are sliding a bit).

When he realises what it's going to cost him in agents' fees and in legal fees trying to get the OP out, he might well be kicking himself for not agreeing to the OP's offer. So much less hassle. And if OP finds somewhere before he's got an offer in place, he could have months without any rental income. Twat.

Sorry it didn't work out for you OP, but I'm sure you'll find something soon.

DesperateTenant · 06/02/2024 10:58

I just want to be done with it all now.

I'm tired of the constant calls from the estate agent about viewings, the worry of them just letting themselves in whenever they want (which they have already done). Checking the post every day for the s21. I don't want to deal with going to court to be evicted and potentially having to pay court costs that may take a chunk of my deposit.

Maybe I am just a weak person.

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Rosiiee · 06/02/2024 10:44

What’s the rush OP? You’re not being evicted, EA can’t conduct visits against your will, seller is stuck…. Have you made a formal offer on the property? I’d stop making home offers on fb messenger and go through the listing agent.

DesperateTenant · 06/02/2024 10:27

I've been checking rightmove every day and have multiple alerts set up but nothing close by that is within my price range. Within a 5 mile radius there are 46 properties listed but only 1 I could afford and it's a 2 bedroom bungalow that needs a huge amount of work done.

Plenty of properties 10-15 miles away which means new schools and all that which is sad and scary. I have booked viewings for several so I know I have options and I am fortunate.

I'm just so sad and stressed.

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justasking111 · 06/02/2024 08:48

I had to evict tenants, cost thousands and took six months. I'd have sold to you.

Beautiful3 · 06/02/2024 08:41

Ah just read your update. He is a greedy arsehole. I'm so sorry. Maybe it's better this way. I hope you find a bigger and better house, come back here and tell us when you do. I also hope he sells it for far less than you offered, and that they mess him around 😆

DesperateTenant · 06/02/2024 07:48

I've changed the numbers (and a couple if other things) so I can try and avoid being outed but there's probably no point doing that now!

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DesperateTenant · 06/02/2024 07:31

Oops, I realise I messed up the numbers on my last post. Ignore those - I actually offered 8% under the asking price so a reasonable offer!

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LindorDoubleChoc · 06/02/2024 07:09

Maybe £170,000 would have been a more sensible offer on a £185,000 house? Are they asking for "offers over"? His idea that he's going to get £200,000 for it seems very strange otherwise.

Message LL back and say the offer remains on the table for now.

Write to the letting agents and give instructions that, given the wholly enethical and illegal breach of your rights as a tenant over the listing photos, you will not be giving access to viewings. See what they say then. But put it in writing, to the most senior person there, and ask for a response.

Netaporter · 06/02/2024 03:51

I agree with @Mummyoflittledragon. You owe the LL nothing at this point. Hold your nerve. Absolutely do not agree to any viewing and write to the Estate agent confirming that you do not give consent to the property being entered whilst you are not present. I’d also make a formal offer (the one you made via FB) to the EA. That way, the LL will owe the EA commission (which he would’ve avoided had he taken your offer). I’d also print a big list of things that are not for sale/wrong with the house in a large font and leave just inside the front door which would hit every potential buyer in the event they decide to let themselves in.

If you go onto the land registry and pay £3, you can see the title for the property. Check he actually owns it. His address will be listed on it. I’d also see who the lender is (it’ll be listed if there is one) and approach that bank/bs to see if they would lend to you. I bet it’s a fixed term rate that is coming to an end which is prompting the sale but that doesn’t excuse him being a dick about it.

Sorry you are going through this, it’s appalling behaviour on his part.

Mummyoflittledragon · 06/02/2024 03:33

I wouldn’t move just now op. You can drag this out and possibly buy the house. You can refuse viewings citing quiet enjoyment. The ll will then have to issue a section 21. They’ve been sneaky with you, why make their life easy? And I say this as a landlord. I have a policy of only letting houses I would be happy to live in myself. I think they’re disgusting.

Changeychang · 05/02/2024 23:12

Especially if you are buying somewhere next and not letting, now is the time to be a little less accommodating. No further viewings until you have left which could be a very long wait for him.

Lyraloo · 05/02/2024 22:55

So sorry to hear this, he’s a fool!

MimiSunshine · 05/02/2024 21:48

DesperateTenant · 05/02/2024 20:46

I think it might be better to just leave asap and forget about it. Time to move on.

If the house is right for you and it’s going to cause you a lot of other issues to move, not to mention eat I to your savings. Then take the emotion out of it and go to the selling agents.
you don’t have to deal with him at all, just put your offer on the table officially and wait to see what happens.
youve got nothing to lose

Kendodd · 05/02/2024 21:34

Im a LL, I'd say yes.

Nextity · 05/02/2024 21:25

It is probably a negotiating tactic from him. Ah well - he is overplaying his hand. He may come back up you in a few weeks, he may not.

Good luck with the house hunting - hopefully something fab comes along for you to buy soon.

worldwidetravel2017 · 05/02/2024 21:00

DesperateTenant · 05/02/2024 20:46

I think it might be better to just leave asap and forget about it. Time to move on.

You could consider renting via spare room 4 now etc -, rather than rushing to buy

AnotherEmma · 05/02/2024 20:52

DesperateTenant · 05/02/2024 20:46

I think it might be better to just leave asap and forget about it. Time to move on.

Don't give notice until you've found somewhere else, though, and preferably not until you've exchanged (if you're buying)

DesperateTenant · 05/02/2024 20:46

I think it might be better to just leave asap and forget about it. Time to move on.

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Rosiiee · 05/02/2024 20:42

I’d still hold out hope OP. He might think he can sell it above asking price but you just wait until the house has been on the market for a few months and no offers are coming in. I suspect he might be interested then!

RowanMayfair · 05/02/2024 20:30

DesperateTenant · 05/02/2024 20:28

Yes, stupid greedy git covers it.

The house is listed at 185k, I offered 160k. He's told me he's expecting it to sell for 200k.

I did a bunch of online valuations and only one came back higher than 165k. They also don't take in to account any of the issues with the house.

He thinks someone is going to offer £15k above asking price? For a flat, in a falling market? He's a knob. Truly.

NobilityScooter · 05/02/2024 20:28

DesperateTenant · 05/02/2024 19:04

Hes replied and said he's not interested.

Ah, disappointed.

He's not interested now but he now needs to start the eviction process of getting you out and no one can be shown round the property until you're out. So he's not really doing his bottom line any favours by saying a flat no to you. The house has to be taken off the market and so when it goes live in the future won't be fresh to market.

DesperateTenant · 05/02/2024 20:28

Yes, stupid greedy git covers it.

The house is listed at 185k, I offered 160k. He's told me he's expecting it to sell for 200k.

I did a bunch of online valuations and only one came back higher than 165k. They also don't take in to account any of the issues with the house.

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AnotherEmma · 05/02/2024 20:27

MimiSunshine · 05/02/2024 19:15

I know you’ve contacted him directly but it sounds like you approached your letting agent and not the estate agent who he has it up for sale with. I’m not sure why you went to the letting agent as it’s nothing to do with them.

Anyway, id still put the offer to the selling agent and say you’re a keen buyer, you know the state of the house and what’s needed, not to mention the fact that it’s got tiny bedrooms etc.
then leave it with them, also remind them that you won’t allow viewings and the fixtures and fittings are yours, as are the flooring which you’ll remove if you go.

it may well be that your offer ends up being the only one on the table and so the agents strongly recommend that he accepts.
in the mean time, I’d find a way to secure your doors as I wouldn’t put it past them to do viewings while you’re at work.

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