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Landlords, would you consider this if your tenants asked?

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DesperateTenant · 26/01/2024 03:47

I have rented my current home for 13 years. I am a good tenant, I keep the house in excellent shape and care for it as if it was my own. I have never asked for anything, rent is always paid on time.

Landlord has decided to sell and I only discovered this when someone knocked on my door wanting a sneaky viewing. They showed me the listing on Rightmove, complete with pictures I was completely unaware were taken.

I am shocked and desperate not to move. I came from nothing and I've made a life for me and my children here. We have a real community around us. I'm at the point where I'll be able to buy locally within 6 months and staying in the area is so important to me.

I completely understand that legally I am not entitled to be told when the LL is selling and have no rights to ask for anything from the LL and I don't know their personal situation.

But, for the landlords out there, in these circumstances if your long term tenant asked if you would consider waiting 6 months and offered to pay more rent (currently pay £850, would offer £1150) would you?

Would it be completely unreasonable for me to ask this?

In 6 months I'd have enough to buy the house I'm in and would do so in a heartbeat.

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T1Dmama · 21/04/2024 09:32

Things moved very quickly!
So did you have several viewings over the past months?

im wondering if the LL is realising that he could potentially need to fork out A LOT of money to take you court… he’s probably also had lots of feedback saying too much works needs doing for the money being asked for the house… plus he knows if you move out in 2 weeks and the house isn’t even sold yet he could potentially have a house sitting there for 6 months or more with no rent coming in! If it’s still mortgaged how will he pay that without a tenant!
Think I’d have put in an anonymous bid and just told the estate agent that you’re in the position to buy and move in straight away. 😂

you may still need to knock money off for the works that need doing… The windows and fire don’t sound safe and need doinf urgently! I’d ask that he knocks half the price of repair off of the house cost.

I can’t believe a gas engineer would sign off on that job!!…. If it’s not safe he could be held liable if something happened! I’d have been complaining and got those jobs done…. Even if it meant getting worked and telling the letting agent you’re getting the work done and knocking it off the rent each month!

T1Dmama · 21/04/2024 08:53

Your landlord is silly, if he’d sold it to you privately and cut out the estate agent he would’ve saved the percentage he’ll now have to pay to them.
Glad he’s excepted …. No chain at all and no move costs or hassle…. Hope the sale goes through quickly.

NobilityScooter · 11/04/2024 19:07

Great update OP! I hope it all works out for you in your current house. Sometimes these things are meant to be. Someone said that to me when I missed out on my dream house. I was most uncharitable and sulky in my response. 4 months later my dream house came back on the market and here I am!

saradika · 11/04/2024 18:57

Oh wow that's great! Shame about the other house though.

rhianfitz · 11/04/2024 18:26

Congrats! I really hope it all goes though with no more problems

PleaseStopCallingMeAl · 11/04/2024 18:07

That's a shame about the other house, @DesperateTenant . I wonder why people do that right at the last minute? 🤔
Pleased you're getting the opportunity to buy your current rental tho. Fingers crossed for the survey (and that He doesn't mess you around down the line, too!).
Good luck.

MorningSunshineSparkles · 11/04/2024 14:13

@DesperateTenant sorry you lost out on the great house, but congrats on being able to buy your current one! So pleased for you, hope everything comes back good with the surveys etc Flowers

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 11/04/2024 10:14

You want to buy the house you rent, your landlord wants to sell it. You really need to speak to the landlord. If it were me and I wasn’t desperate for my money now (I am a multiple landlord) I would be happy to accommodate you.

squirrelnutkin10 · 11/04/2024 10:08

LL here, l would definately wait for you if l could, BUT and here is the rub,

Maybe your LL's fixed term mortgage has come to an end and they cannot afford higher repayments, so have to sell fast.
Maybe they need money from the sale to pay their own mortgage.
Maybe family situation.
Or they may have no issue with waiting for you. Plus a sale can easily take 3-5 months.

I would not offer more rent but email your LL directly stating you may be interested in purchasing the house and asking for a meeting.

In the meantime have all your facts and figures worked out, speak to a mortgage broker if necessary. See the earliest you can get enough funds together, see if you can borrow to bring it forward say three months. Most importantly establish the actual value of the property, get three agents in to value it for you. Ensure they are discrete.

At the meeting ask why the LL is selling, is he/she in a hurry, this dictates your strategy.
Say you want to buy and he/she would have the considerable advantage of rent right up to Exchange of contracts.
Say you know the condition of the property well and so the sale should be faster and more straightforward.
Remind him/her that they already know you and that you are a reliable person.

You hold many cards op.

I have sold to a tenant in the past and in fact gave a 5 % discount because of the above.

BestDIL · 11/04/2024 09:50

That's great news @DesperateTenant so pleased for you. Like @Agapornis says, hope you got it for the same or less than you previously offered. Good luck with everything.

Beautiful3 · 11/04/2024 07:14

Well done op, it was obviously meant to be.

Agapornis · 11/04/2024 01:11

Very pleased for you. Clearly the LL wasn't getting any offers! Serves him right. Hope you offered the same or less than last time?

DesperateTenant · 10/04/2024 23:13

It's kind of you to check in on me!

It's been a roller coaster couple of months. I have a lot of new grey hairs!

I found a great house and was due to exchange last week (I've practically been a bully chasing everyone up constantly trying to to push the sale through quickly)! However the vendor, who had been flip flopping for a week or so, decided to pull out of the sale entirely. No reason given.

So it was back to square 1 only 2 weeks or so before my S21 expired. That was on Friday.

Yesterday I put another offer in on my current house and the LL accepted! So it looks like I might get to stay here after all.

I have to obviously deal with what a survey etc. turns up and hope to god there is nothing that affects my mortgage agreement and gives them reason to decline offering me what I need.

I am quite disappointed at losing out on the great house, it was actually ideal. But being able to stay here means there will be no stress for the children which is good!

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Whatwasthatshow · 10/04/2024 14:09

Hope you’re ok @DesperateTenant

PleaseStopCallingMeAl · 09/04/2024 14:39

How's things going @DesperateTenant? Did you manage to find a new home? Thinking of you.

justasking111 · 06/02/2024 14:12

I would change the locks. I'm a long standing landlord and have never let myself in, let alone an estate agent.

Mummyoflittledragon · 06/02/2024 13:47

@SquirrelsAssemble
Good advice. However I wouldn’t be encouraging a S21. And I also would not allow viewings after that time. Op is perfectly entitled to refuse viewings full stop for the duration of her tenancy, whenever she decides to leave or once the ll has sought a court order for possession… not that I’m advocating for her to do this as the letting agent wouldn’t then give her a good reference for a future rental.

SquirrelsAssemble · 06/02/2024 12:41

Do you have any legal cover with your home insurance? They're very good at helping draft legal sounding letters referencing the right legislation...

I know it's stressful, but to buy some headspace i'd forget Del Boy LL and consider sending a letter to the estate agents saying :

They have previously unlawfully entered your home without permission or notice violating your right to quiet enjoyment and The Housing Act 1988.
You have not been served a S21 notice to quit and wish to make it extremely clear that you will not be hosting ANY viewings until a S21 is received.
Even when this is issued, they will be expressly forbidden to enter your property without prior appointment in line with your rights as a tenant & not without you being present.
Any evidence via your CCTV that people are entering the property without express permission from you as the tenant will be passed to the police for trespass.
Once an S21 has been received you will notify them, please stop calling until this time.

It doesn't need to be true that you have CCTV or intend to involve the cops etc. you're just buying breathing space until this bellend if a landlord has upheld his legal duties & you know where you stand & can breathe.

Really sorry this is happening OP, Landlords don't need to be shits (I tried very hard not to be).

Housing Act 1988

An Act to make further provision with respect to dwelling-houses let on tenancies or occupied under licences; to amend the Rent Act 1977 and the Rent (Agriculture) Act 1976; to establish a body, Housing for Wales, having functions relating to housing a...

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/50/contents

DesperateTenant · 06/02/2024 12:30

Beautiful3 · 06/02/2024 12:01

Would the 2 bedroom bungalow work? My colleague had to get out of her home quickly, could only find a bungalow that needed doing up. She wasn't pleased at first, but it turned out great. She did one room up at a time and removed a wall. After 18 months she had modernised it, it felt like a holiday home.

When I say a huge amount of work I'm not exaggerating. From the pictures you can see that it's not just outdated and needing cosmetic work but worse. It looks like there is structural damage, there is damp and mould in every room, etc. I walked past it and it looks like the windows will need replacing as well. Where would I find the time and money?

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Beautiful3 · 06/02/2024 12:20

@AnotherEmma · Today 12:10

Yes she was and still is a single parent of 2.

AnotherEmma · 06/02/2024 12:10

Beautiful3 · 06/02/2024 12:01

Would the 2 bedroom bungalow work? My colleague had to get out of her home quickly, could only find a bungalow that needed doing up. She wasn't pleased at first, but it turned out great. She did one room up at a time and removed a wall. After 18 months she had modernised it, it felt like a holiday home.

Was she a single parent with a disabled child?
I doubt OP would have the time or energy for a fixer-upper.

AnotherEmma · 06/02/2024 12:09

DesperateTenant · 06/02/2024 10:58

I just want to be done with it all now.

I'm tired of the constant calls from the estate agent about viewings, the worry of them just letting themselves in whenever they want (which they have already done). Checking the post every day for the s21. I don't want to deal with going to court to be evicted and potentially having to pay court costs that may take a chunk of my deposit.

Maybe I am just a weak person.

Block estate agent's number, change locks, sit tight. Even you do get a S21 notice you'll have months and months to find somewhere else.

I know it's stressful but try to remember that you do have rights, and while it's sensible to look for somewhere to buy, you don't have to settle for an unsuitable place. You can stay where you are for now.

Beautiful3 · 06/02/2024 12:01

Would the 2 bedroom bungalow work? My colleague had to get out of her home quickly, could only find a bungalow that needed doing up. She wasn't pleased at first, but it turned out great. She did one room up at a time and removed a wall. After 18 months she had modernised it, it felt like a holiday home.

stopmefeelingsick · 06/02/2024 11:45

I think you mentioned your son being at a special school. If so I'm guessing he has an EHCP who means the local authority would provide a taxi? Worth looking into if you have to move