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To be sick of vapes everywhere

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MaloneMeadow · 25/01/2024 20:43

I can’t seem to go anywhere these days without a white cloud of disgusting candy flavoured vapour being blown in my face. It’s gotten to a point where I truly believe that it’s worse than smoking - at least most smokers are well aware that it’s an anti-social behaviour and do it away from other people, and outdoors! With vapers there seem to be absolutely no boundaries or thought that not everyone wants to be covered in their chemical smoke.

Absolutely horrible habit that’s catching on to far too many young children. A ban can’t come soon enough - even my 19 year old DD is sick of her friends being addicted to them. They’re like dummies in some cases, never out of their mouths!

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MaloneMeadow · 26/01/2024 00:00

katy1111 · 25/01/2024 23:58

Wow, calling a pp a 'strange person' because they don't believe or agree with something you've said is a bit OTT isn't it? No need to get personal!

The NHS advice on using vapes for quitting smoking is that it is a positive thing to do. Agree that they shouldn't be marketed towards kids and that people should be respectful and not vape in peoples faces!

Considering they were implying that for some bizarre reason I felt the need to make stories up about my own DD’s friends (thankfully my life isn’t that sad and empty!) I feel it was justified

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katy1111 · 25/01/2024 23:58

Wow, calling a pp a 'strange person' because they don't believe or agree with something you've said is a bit OTT isn't it? No need to get personal!

The NHS advice on using vapes for quitting smoking is that it is a positive thing to do. Agree that they shouldn't be marketed towards kids and that people should be respectful and not vape in peoples faces!

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MaloneMeadow · 25/01/2024 23:58

PencilsInSpace · 25/01/2024 23:46

there's no evidence they are safe

Well no because that's not the way medical science works. If you look for evidence of harm and find none you have not proven them to be safe, just found no evidence of harm.

There's a 1468 page evidence update from Public Health England here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nicotine-vaping-in-england-2022-evidence-update

(the summary and main findings are substantially shorter!)

Going to assume that you are an avid vaper.. why else would you be so keen to promote their supposed safety

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Badtard · 25/01/2024 23:58

I'm so with you on this OP.
Filthy fucking things with their sickly smells. Massive problem amongst the young too.

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MaloneMeadow · 25/01/2024 23:57

DidntReallyMeanIt · 25/01/2024 23:52

I'm not keen on the smell of it but I've yet to have someone blow it into my face, so you must be quite unlucky.

Ditto the 'multiple' friends of your DD that have ended up in hospital over it.

I'd say the latter is quite rare unless she knows multiple people with asthma or something?

Both girls were well controlled asthmatics

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DidntReallyMeanIt · 25/01/2024 23:52

I'm not keen on the smell of it but I've yet to have someone blow it into my face, so you must be quite unlucky.

Ditto the 'multiple' friends of your DD that have ended up in hospital over it.

I'd say the latter is quite rare unless she knows multiple people with asthma or something?

PencilsInSpace · 25/01/2024 23:46

there's no evidence they are safe

Well no because that's not the way medical science works. If you look for evidence of harm and find none you have not proven them to be safe, just found no evidence of harm.

There's a 1468 page evidence update from Public Health England here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nicotine-vaping-in-england-2022-evidence-update

(the summary and main findings are substantially shorter!)

Nicotine vaping in England: 2022 evidence update

The final annual update in the current series of evidence reviews about the health harms of vaping, by leading independent tobacco experts.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nicotine-vaping-in-england-2022-evidence-update

Paw2024 · 25/01/2024 23:36

thingsineverthoughtidsay · 25/01/2024 23:13

I can’t understand how we have got to this stage here with vapes. Society was finally getting to a good place with numbers giving up smoking, and due to the government being totally lax over vaping regulations, that problem is now enormous. Why on earth didn’t they foresee this coming?!!
I agree with you BTW OP, I’m sick of the clouds of vapour everywhere I go. You honestly can’t escape it because people do it ‘on the sly’ in enclosed spaces. It’s awful!

Vaping helps massively in people quitting smoking

zurala · 25/01/2024 23:31

My MIL used a vape in my house over Christmas. DS saw her and told me, then I watched her use it while sitting on the sofa with her in the room. DH had a word and asked her not to use it on the house and she got all huffy and said she had never used it in the house, she'd gone outside. I literally watched her do it! I want sure what was worse, using it in the house, or outright lying about it.

I bloody hate the things, there's no evidence they are safe and people do use them everywhere because they are convinced they are harmless. They should be banned.

PencilsInSpace · 25/01/2024 23:28

MaloneMeadow · 25/01/2024 22:36

Written by an author who is pro-vaping, not medically qualified either

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NEJM if you prefer:

Vitamin E Acetate in Bronchoalveolar-Lavage Fluid Associated with EVALI

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1916433

thingsineverthoughtidsay · 25/01/2024 23:13

I can’t understand how we have got to this stage here with vapes. Society was finally getting to a good place with numbers giving up smoking, and due to the government being totally lax over vaping regulations, that problem is now enormous. Why on earth didn’t they foresee this coming?!!
I agree with you BTW OP, I’m sick of the clouds of vapour everywhere I go. You honestly can’t escape it because people do it ‘on the sly’ in enclosed spaces. It’s awful!

ThePoshUns · 25/01/2024 23:11

I agree OP, I hate the sickly, sweet claggy smell. I'd prefer the smell of fags to be honest. Sick of the sight of adults sucking in their big baby dummy's in their baggy tracksuits everywhere.

Fairygoblin · 25/01/2024 23:11

DdraigGoch · 25/01/2024 21:41

They should only be available on prescription to those trying to give up smoking. Kids certainly shouldn't be able to get hold of them.

So inconvenience responsible adults instead of parents actually parenting their children

Scampuss · 25/01/2024 23:08

MadeOfAllWork · 25/01/2024 23:04

There were tobacconists everywhere in England around 30 years ago. The last one in my town just closed down.

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Aah, tobacconists, I'd completely forgotten the word (oh the joy of peri-meno!).

TealSapphire · 25/01/2024 23:05

YANBU OP. I see it everywhere too and just think it's pointless. Adults who have never smoked taking it up?! Reminds me of puff the magic dragon whenever I see the cloud of smoke coming from their mouths.

MadeOfAllWork · 25/01/2024 23:04

stayathomer · 25/01/2024 22:39

What I don’t get is how vape shops were ever allowed/approved? They’re everywhere in Ireland. There were never cigarette shops so where did this come from?

There were tobacconists everywhere in England around 30 years ago. The last one in my town just closed down.

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MaloneMeadow · 25/01/2024 23:00

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 25/01/2024 22:51

I think “cool story bro” is meant to mean that the pp doesn’t believe that “multiple friends” of your daughter have been hospitalised by vaping.

I have to say it…I don’t believe you either.

You can make your objection about dislike of the smell without over-egging it by suggesting that vaping is highly dangerous.

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Nowhere on this thread am I suggesting that it is highly dangerous, what I am saying is that we don’t yet know the long term effects.

Both girls ended up in hospital with severe pneumonia, which respiratory consultants believed to be linked to lung inflammation from years of heavy vaping. Believe it’s made up if you want… strange person

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WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 25/01/2024 22:51

MaloneMeadow · 25/01/2024 22:05

If you have nothing relevant or constructive to add then don’t say anything. Not hard

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I think “cool story bro” is meant to mean that the pp doesn’t believe that “multiple friends” of your daughter have been hospitalised by vaping.

I have to say it…I don’t believe you either.

You can make your objection about dislike of the smell without over-egging it by suggesting that vaping is highly dangerous.

HardHeartedHarbingerofHaggis · 25/01/2024 22:46

They stink and look ridiculous. Grim.

stayathomer · 25/01/2024 22:41

Scampuss
Wow, never knew that!!

unkownone · 25/01/2024 22:41

Ugh I had to tell a guy to stop on holidays, we were in a van transfer and I had to sit next to him and he tried hiding the fact he was vaping but he was blowing out that crap all over my daughter- could see it go all over her. I probably was in a cranky mood not having any fresh air due to every one smoking weed lol but I thought we’d get a break in a private transfer van.

Scampuss · 25/01/2024 22:40

stayathomer · 25/01/2024 22:39

What I don’t get is how vape shops were ever allowed/approved? They’re everywhere in Ireland. There were never cigarette shops so where did this come from?

There used to be cigarettes shops. Could buy single cigarettes back then. Sold loose tobacco, exotic cigarettes, pipes and cigars.

stayathomer · 25/01/2024 22:39

What I don’t get is how vape shops were ever allowed/approved? They’re everywhere in Ireland. There were never cigarette shops so where did this come from?

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MaloneMeadow · 25/01/2024 22:36

PencilsInSpace · 25/01/2024 22:31

VAPI is another name for EVALI according to wiki.

https://www.qeios.com/read/ZGVHM7.3

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Written by an author who is pro-vaping, not medically qualified either

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Scampuss · 25/01/2024 22:35

And @PencilsInSpace has a better link with more accurate data.