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To be sick of vapes everywhere

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MaloneMeadow · 25/01/2024 20:43

I can’t seem to go anywhere these days without a white cloud of disgusting candy flavoured vapour being blown in my face. It’s gotten to a point where I truly believe that it’s worse than smoking - at least most smokers are well aware that it’s an anti-social behaviour and do it away from other people, and outdoors! With vapers there seem to be absolutely no boundaries or thought that not everyone wants to be covered in their chemical smoke.

Absolutely horrible habit that’s catching on to far too many young children. A ban can’t come soon enough - even my 19 year old DD is sick of her friends being addicted to them. They’re like dummies in some cases, never out of their mouths!

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lemmein · 26/01/2024 09:32

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Yeah, that's 100% bullshit 😅

ButterCrackers · 26/01/2024 09:31

Agree. It’s just horrible to have to walk through the vape cloud. They are bad for the vapers lungs and need to be banned.

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MaloneMeadow · 26/01/2024 09:29

DocOck · 26/01/2024 09:26

They are the worst things to be invented in a long time. Adults walking around sucking on them like a dummy. Also, it's the excessive use. I believe that people vape way more than smoking. You see people going on them constantly, and not many people chainsmoked like that!

Yes - the excessive use is definitely a major issue as well. Most of DD’s friends go through about 2 Elf bars a week, equivalent to almost 100 cigarette’s worth of nicotine!!

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Desecratedcoconut · 26/01/2024 09:28

They are fucking awful. There are places where everyone seems to be at it and it's like walking through a forest of glade plug-ins 🤮

NameChangeImEmbarassed · 26/01/2024 09:27

Yes they’re gross!
walking along the street and a massive load of strawberry smoke or whatever it is blows into everyone’s face and we breathe it in.. all I can think is we are breathing in their breath that’s literally just come out of their nose and mouth. And I know that would be the case whether it was vape smoke or not but at least we wouldn’t have to be so acutely aware of it!

DocOck · 26/01/2024 09:26

They are the worst things to be invented in a long time. Adults walking around sucking on them like a dummy. Also, it's the excessive use. I believe that people vape way more than smoking. You see people going on them constantly, and not many people chainsmoked like that!

JarvisRocker · 26/01/2024 09:25

I’m not arguing for them btw! I’m horrified that children are getting admitted to hospital after vaping!! I’m just wondering what’s happening and if it’s not diacetyl, what is it? This is a huge worry.

JarvisRocker · 26/01/2024 09:21

BronwenTheBrave · 26/01/2024 09:14

Popcorn lung. From standard vapes.
https://www.lung.org/blog/popcorn-lung-risk-ecigs

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Diacetyl is banned in standard UK vapes though.

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MaloneMeadow · 26/01/2024 09:21

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 26/01/2024 09:11

Which is why I said the law should be enforced and parents should play their part.

The law prohibits u-18s buying or using vapes. What else do you want? A ban for all? (Which is what you did say in the OP, though you’re now backtracking.)

A quick google tells me that the gov announced a ban on fruit flavours in vapes in the last King’s Speech. Seems reasonable.

Anything else you suggest?

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A ban is being considered, nothing set in stone and with the way our government is heading it will be a long time before any of this is ever put in place. Unless the companies stop marketing to children there is always going to be demand from that age group, who have ways and means of getting what they want whether it’s illegal or not. The vast majority of parents are not the issue here. My own (very sensible) child managed to easily buy one at 15 without me ever knowing until she told me years later.

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Paw2024 · 26/01/2024 09:20

@MaloneMeadow me. And I'm not unusual
I quit a 30 a day habit back in 2015 with a rainbow fizz flavour. My manager uses skittles flavour liquid
There's some very old threads on here where we chat about various flavours and stuff before disposable ones even existed

Isitbedtimeyet3 · 26/01/2024 09:17

MaloneMeadow · 25/01/2024 21:00

We don’t yet know the long term effects of vaping, so that is questionable at the minute. Multiple young friends of DD (all heavy vapers) have ended up in hospital because of it in recent years.

Nowadays vapes have become a gateway drug to smoking

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Exactly, OP. They used to promote cigarettes as being healthy before they realised they cause cancer

mjf981 · 26/01/2024 09:16

Agreed OP. I'm sick of them too.

BronwenTheBrave · 26/01/2024 09:14

Scampuss · 25/01/2024 21:06

Multiple young friends of DD (all heavy vapers) have ended up in hospital because of it in recent years.

Really? From standard vapes?

From the reports I've read the hospitalisations from 'vaping' have all been linked to 'vaping' cannabis oils not standard water based vape liquids. Of course inhaling heating oils direct to your lungs will cause harm, but standard vape liquids don't contain oils.

Popcorn lung. From standard vapes.
https://www.lung.org/blog/popcorn-lung-risk-ecigs

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 26/01/2024 09:11

MaloneMeadow · 26/01/2024 09:04

But is that law actually effective? No. Vape companies are specifically marketing to this age group and they know it. What adult looking to quit smoking wants a colourful, gummy bear flavoured vape?

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Which is why I said the law should be enforced and parents should play their part.

The law prohibits u-18s buying or using vapes. What else do you want? A ban for all? (Which is what you did say in the OP, though you’re now backtracking.)

A quick google tells me that the gov announced a ban on fruit flavours in vapes in the last King’s Speech. Seems reasonable.

Anything else you suggest?

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MaloneMeadow · 26/01/2024 09:04

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 26/01/2024 09:00

Vapes are already banned by law for under-18s.

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But is that law actually effective? No. Vape companies are specifically marketing to this age group and they know it. What adult looking to quit smoking wants a colourful, gummy bear flavoured vape?

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newusern99 · 26/01/2024 09:03

Whilst it is true that vaping is safer than smoking and there may be no long-term effects related to cancer and lung health (unknown) it is known that nicotine can negatively impact foetal growth and sperm count and motility so I think there are likely to be issues arising in the future from vaping.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 26/01/2024 09:00

MaloneMeadow · 26/01/2024 09:00

For the children and teens who are becoming addicted to nicotine from a young age and using them as a gateway to smoking, yes.

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Vapes are already banned by law for under-18s.

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MaloneMeadow · 26/01/2024 09:00

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 26/01/2024 08:52

In your first post you said…A ban can’t come soon enough

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For the children and teens who are becoming addicted to nicotine from a young age and using them as a gateway to smoking, yes.

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JarvisRocker · 26/01/2024 08:56

MaloneMeadow · 25/01/2024 21:00

We don’t yet know the long term effects of vaping, so that is questionable at the minute. Multiple young friends of DD (all heavy vapers) have ended up in hospital because of it in recent years.

Nowadays vapes have become a gateway drug to smoking

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This is extremely concerning. When you say several, how many? What symptoms took them to hospital? What were the diagnoses? Are they well now?

34weekmess · 26/01/2024 08:56

I did hear that smoking is coming back into 'fashion'
I don't mind what people do, live and let live is my opinion
People get pissed
Take drugs
Smoke fags
Vape
Eat loads of junk food
But that is their choice and nothing to do with me

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 26/01/2024 08:52

MaloneMeadow · 26/01/2024 08:40

Nowhere in any of my posts does it say that I want them banned

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In your first post you said…A ban can’t come soon enough

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MaloneMeadow · 26/01/2024 08:50

Naptrappedmummy · 26/01/2024 08:47

It’s all teenagers round here and people young enough not to have the ‘quitting smoking’ excuse. It’s just become a silly fad, they look stupid.

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I am told by DD that vaping is becoming cringe and chavvy, and that all the trendsetters have moved on to smoking cigarettes. What on earth is the world coming to

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Naptrappedmummy · 26/01/2024 08:47

Bargello · 26/01/2024 08:12

Yes, but a large number of the younger people who are vaping are not previous smokers so that theory doesn't really work.

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It’s all teenagers round here and people young enough not to have the ‘quitting smoking’ excuse. It’s just become a silly fad, they look stupid.

Naptrappedmummy · 26/01/2024 08:46

YANBU. Smoking is worse technically but smokers go outside, smoke a fag for a minute or two, then stub it out. Gone. With vaping they just walk around sucking on them everywhere like some kind of ridiculous adult dummy. I’m sick of walking down the road (especially with baby in pram) and being engulfed by a cloud that smells like cheap vanilla candles and chemicals. And don’t even get me started on the disposable vapes.

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MaloneMeadow · 26/01/2024 08:40

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 26/01/2024 08:31

I doubt if anyone approves of children vaping. As far as I know, vapes are not allowed by law to be sold to children. And, again as far as I know, vaping is prohibited by law or policy in most places that smoking is banned.

If children are the concern, the law should be enforced and parents should do their part.

But that’s not what the OP is complaining about. She wants vapes banned for adults too. Because she doesn’t like the smell.

As someone said upthread, why ban vaping for adults? If it’s just about occasional nuisance, there are many other things ahead in the queue.

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Nowhere in any of my posts does it say that I want them banned

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