To be sick of vapes everywhere

It is in regulated TPD compliant e-liquid.

The concern is all those black market disposables being sold to teenagers 'under the counter' at certain corner shops.

We don’t yet know the long term effects of vaping, so that is questionable at the minute. Multiple young friends of DD (all heavy vapers) have ended up in hospital because of it in recent years.

Source - trust me

We have a lot more science these days and long-term effects have been studied. They have been around since 2003, there are plenty of people who have vaped for over a decade.

I'm a chronic asthmatic who was also a smoker for many years, yes that's dumb but peer pressure was intense, I was easily led and my more serious addictions were the priority back then. Regular chest infections and hospitalisations even before I started smoking tobacco, I've been close to death a fair few times.

Since I started vaping every single negative symptom has gone and my lungs are in the best shape ever going on on my peak flow. I tried every nicotine-replacement therapy going and none hit the spot like a vape.

I never vape around others though and use unflavoured liquid as the sweet sugary ones make me gag. Old fashioned rechargeable type with no discarded batteries, low wattage so not much smoke. I strongly disagree with the idea anyone should have to inhale my fumes, harmless or not. If you hold it long enough there isn't much anyway.

Basic respect for others from vapers would remove so many of the objections and reduce the multiple threads recently peddling the same old misinformation. It is a real pain for 'responsible' vapers that so many peers seem determined to annoy as many non-vapers as possible.

I think the ones that vape are ones that probably would have smoked anyway
So surely it's better they are trying vaping rather than the very real danger of smoking?
Admittedly it's not great but neither is drinking under age or sex or nudes on snapchats but teens are going to.. teen

I started smoking at 12 and yes I would have vaped if that was available
It would have been better for me to vape over the years than develop the 30 a day cigarette habit that I did
They're not a gateway to smoking because smoking is more expensive, more noticeable smell to parents.. lots of reasons

The ONLY reason I was able to quit smoking was a vape. If they were banned, I would still be smoking 30 a day and probably a bigger strain on the NHS

I believe that people vape way more than smoking.

It's more 'little and often' than smoking because the nicotine is absorbed differently. You don't get a big sharp hit like you do from a lit cigarette. Vapers generally absorb less nicotine than smokers, even those who use high power devices:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6657878/

If frequency of use is what we should worry about then we had better go after nicotine patch users. They are literally glued to the things 24/7!

Your post said, The thought of breathing in someone else’s expelled breath is revolting

Expelled breath is expelled breath. Keep away from those panting joggers and cyclists!

if you think it's a lie that multiple young people can end up in hospital as a result of vaping, you should watch this documentary series on netflix:

m.imdb.com/title/tt14081634/

But that’s literally what you do all day every day. Are you going to stop breathing?

LOL. Putting that down on the List of Things That Didn’t Happen.

I agree, completely loathe it.

No, they don’t, and even if they did you wouldn’t get them from ‘passive vaping’.

I’m not saying there are absolutely no risks to vapers - although the evidence of harm seems very slight and speculative - but there are no risks to non-vapers.

They are a mild annoyance but nothing in comparison to cigarettes or people smoking weed.

Not unreasonable though.

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Better tell the NHS then. They've been prescribing nicotine replacement to pregnant women for decades. They also support pregnant women using a vape to quit smoking.

https://www.nhs.uk/pregnancy/keeping-well/stop-smoking/

Where did I mention cancer? Nonetheless cigarettes and vapes contain harmful chemicals.

You’d have to stop people breathing to achieve that aim.

Being asthmatic and having asthmatic children I totally believe the person mentioning the children in hospital. It really is an issue for myself and my older child when others vape near. Tbf I do have triggers from cigarette smoke and perfume but breathing in second hand vape smoke is also disgusting.

I appreciate some adults may like the candy floss flavour but it is also appealing to children. The difficulty is children are buying it online and it's mixed with all sorts. It's terrifying. Thankfully my children haven't used it because it would make them seriously ill.

At least with cigarettes you could smell it and know when kids had used them. Also they were far more difficult to get hold of. The other disgusting thing is some young kids pick up disposed vapes off the floor. It really is a big issue.

That’s nonsense. See the Cancer Research Campaign link on the previous page.

We've always inconvenienced responsible adults in order to protect children.

Theyve got a whole generation of DC hooked on nicotine, who otherwise wouldn't be

The stats don't support this. The latest ASH survey shows that while there has been a marked uptick since 2021, only 3.7% of 11-17 y/o are regularly vaping.

It's also not true that vaping is acting as a gateway to smoking for children or that smoking is becoming cool again. The trend in youth smoking continues downwards.

(the 7.6% current use of vapes in the second graph is made up of both regular and occasional users but excludes those who have just tried it once or twice).

https://ash.org.uk/uploads/Headline-results-ASH-Smokefree-GB-adults-and-youth-survey-results-2023.pdf?v=1684400380