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To think night driving is getting more dangerous

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DazzledbyHeadlights · 25/01/2024 20:00

Since a few years ago - and now that cyclists/pedestrians have more right of way. I agree and think it works well during the day.

However at night? Headlights seem to be more blinding than ever. Spotting a dimly lit cyclist in front of a full dazzling tank of a car is hard.

In addition, many pedestrians seem to have a cavalier ‘my right of way, I’ll step out’ attitude. I was driving along a 40mph stretch this evening and - 3 times - a dark figure suddenly appeared, stepped out onto the road and I needed to break quite abruptly.

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ntmdino · 26/01/2024 12:36

afkonholidaynearleek · 26/01/2024 11:56

I drive a Honda Civic, an ordinary hatchback car. I am always dazzled at night due to most other drivers - usually driving SUV-type cars - because their bonnets are higher and therefore the lights are, too. I often think they are driving with full beams, but they're not.

I wish more people knew that you can adjust your headlight beams, and point them down just a bit more.

This is exactly it - the majority of the problem is with the trend for bigger and bigger cars, with headlights higher and higher. Brighter bulbs won't actually contribute as much to the problem, as long as the beam pattern is properly set up.

Combine that with the recent law change to give waiting pedestrians right of way on the road, and it's a recipe for fatalities.

afkonholidaynearleek · 26/01/2024 11:59

If you are regularly flashed for your headlights being too bright - PLEASE ADJUST YOUR HEADLIGHTS. Here are some examples to help you search:

How to adjust headlights Honda CR-V
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How to adjust headlights Nissan X-Trail

afkonholidaynearleek · 26/01/2024 11:56

I drive a Honda Civic, an ordinary hatchback car. I am always dazzled at night due to most other drivers - usually driving SUV-type cars - because their bonnets are higher and therefore the lights are, too. I often think they are driving with full beams, but they're not.

I wish more people knew that you can adjust your headlight beams, and point them down just a bit more.

Carnewb · 26/01/2024 11:49

Willowswood · 26/01/2024 11:38

@Carnewb

I hate people to think I'm driving with main beam on, they will just repeatedly flash me as they are expecting me to turn the main beam off, when it's just my normal headlights.

So to stop them repeatedly flashing me, I have to do one quick flash to show it's not my main beam, other wise they just continue to flash. This is dazzling me.

What else can I do? Just sit there and be dazzled? If I flash quickly once, then they don't flash me again as they realise it's not my main beam.

Well it's your chosen car causing the issue, no you didn't put the lights in but that doesn't absolve you of the responsibility that they're clearly causing an issue.
If other people have to put up with your dazzling headlights as a consequence of the car you choose to drive then you also should put up with the results of that with people flashing you because your lights are causing them a problem, without deliberately making that worse.
As a pp said if multiple people are flashing you multiple times then you are the issue.

Willowswood · 26/01/2024 11:38

@Carnewb

I hate people to think I'm driving with main beam on, they will just repeatedly flash me as they are expecting me to turn the main beam off, when it's just my normal headlights.

So to stop them repeatedly flashing me, I have to do one quick flash to show it's not my main beam, other wise they just continue to flash. This is dazzling me.

What else can I do? Just sit there and be dazzled? If I flash quickly once, then they don't flash me again as they realise it's not my main beam.

Carnewb · 26/01/2024 11:14

Willowswood · 25/01/2024 22:46

@Carnewb

So I just drive along allowing people to think I've got main beam on? I don't think so! Some people flash once, then flash again! It's dazzling for me aswell when people do that.

The more they realise bright led's are not main beam, the better.

So you're making this worse because you can then? If you know they're dazzling anyway and you know that's why you're being flashed you're deliberately making it worse to prove a point, to random people that you pass in the dark, making sure they know that you're not on main beam, just driving a car you know is causing problems for other road users and then choosing to make that worse.
Gotcha 👏👏👏👏👏👏

JSMill · 26/01/2024 10:40

I agree with you Op. So many pedestrians and even cyclists just assume they will be seen by the driver. Another problem I have is tailgating. I have to drive dd back from training at 10pm and have to drive on a road which has a 70 mph limit. I drive at that but every time I have some wanker behind me flashing me to get out of the way. Sometimes I can't safely move to the other lane so have the stress of worrying they'll crash into my back, in addition to the distraction of the bright flashing lights. When I do move, they tear off at ridiculous speeds.

beguilingeyes · 26/01/2024 09:55

I sometime drive to Bath from the M4 and the main a road into the city (A46?) is terrifying at night. It's high up and twisty. It's a 50 mph road and there are always queues of cars in both directions.
It's almost impossible to see anything due to oncoming headlights. It's crazy.

Rummikub · 26/01/2024 09:48

Because car manufacturers only focussed on the driver of their vehicle. Instead of looking at (unintended) consequences of dazzling oncoming drivers or pedestrians. Selfish way of selling your product imo.

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 26/01/2024 09:47

It seems to be vans, lorries, buses and 'tall cars' that seem to dazzle most. Is it because their headlights are higher up off the floor?

I travel regularly for an hour on unlit country roads and I'm not dazzled by every single vehicle but aren't you supposed to dip headlights before bends? And not several blinding seconds after you've gone round the bend? It's these idiots that are more dangerous. Some people drive around completely oblivious of other road users.

Don't get me started on people who can't be bothered to position themselves correctly to the right of the centre of the junction when making a right turn. I'm often waiting for 3-4 changes of traffic lights because those going straight on or left at a junction can't get passed the plonker in their Chelsea tractor, who thinks that they are entitled to block the whole of the entry of the junction because they can't be bothered to pull a few yards further and to the right. (No diagram necessary.)

emmylousings · 26/01/2024 09:37

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 25/01/2024 20:03

I've really noticed that about headlights lately. There was something on the radio about it the other day actually.

I heard that, and have long felt they are dangerously bright nowadays. I don't get why the car manufacturers didn't recognise that themselves?! Its obvious 🙄 and it's too late for.all those cars already out there isn't it..
I have had a few encounters with poorly behaved pedestrians and it.is scary...the only step you can take is drive more slowly and never take your eyes off the road!!

NoOrdinaryMorning · 26/01/2024 09:32

Allfur · 25/01/2024 21:54

Walking2024, I'm a very good driver but I don't go around victim blaming more vulnerable road users

How on earth are other drivers "victims?!?!" when it's their lights blinding people?
As the teens say, make it make sense, please

NoOrdinaryMorning · 26/01/2024 09:28

Allfur · 25/01/2024 20:34

You're the one driving a machine that can kill, just drive slower

Haha wow you don't sound bitter & jealous of those responsible enough to have a driving licence and a vehicle, not at ALL! 🤣
Just an fyi - You can be completely stationary and be blinded by other vehicle's headlights.

Reading comprehension is vital, it really is

Jovacknockowitch · 26/01/2024 09:22

LunaNorth · 25/01/2024 20:13

Yellow tinted glasses are a game-changer.

Published research says they actually make it harder to see

NoOrdinaryMorning · 26/01/2024 09:22

I completely agree 100%. However I don't think anything will change until there's a gigantic incident + loss of life. As usual. We have a reactive culture instead of proactive

logicisall · 26/01/2024 09:20

"Ive got anti glare on my glasses. Havent found that its any different to when Im just wearing my contacts"

There are different types of anti-glare, so the type used for night driving might not be the type you have on your glasses.

Glitterblue · 26/01/2024 00:53

I have to drive 15 miles home from work on a rural road with loads of corners and it always seems to be absolutely chucking it down when I’m driving home, so that combined with the lights coming straight at me makes it so difficult - it’s like I can just see a blur of bright lights and rain and can barely see where the road goes, it’s horrible. Also there are hardly any chances to have the lights on full beam because it’s so busy. The lights are absolutely dazzling.

darkmodeera · 26/01/2024 00:43

The combination of LEDs and my ageing eyesight have meant that I'm much less confident driving at night. Too easy to miss something in peripheral vision at nighttime.

dutysuite · 26/01/2024 00:02

It’s difficult to see anything at night where I live because the street lights keep being dimmed to cut costs and then they go off entirely at midnight so we’re all plunged into darkness, I drive home at 4am - it’s safer as I don’t want to walk the unlit streets - I am extra vigilant when driving because so often someone all dressed in dark clothing will step out and so many cyclists aren’t kitted out with good quality lights .

IntheSnowySnowyMountains · 25/01/2024 23:59

My biggest problem is boar and deer jumping out in front of me from nowhere.

Streetlights are turned off now at 11pm so it's dark even in the villages - i wouldn't want to be out late with a dog.

I agree bright lights from oncoming traffic are also a nightmare.

Kokeshi123 · 25/01/2024 23:55

By the way, there is also statistical evidence that black and dark-colored vehicles are more likely to be involved in accidents.

It's OK to get cross with walkers wearing dark clothes IF you are also ensuring your own vehicle is not dark colored and are OK with measures being brought in requiring all vehicles to be highly visible colors (I think we should do this FWIW).

Blinkingbonkers · 25/01/2024 23:54

Cyclists either have the super bright blind you lights (which they obv can’t dip) or they have barely any light/reflectors or high vis at all. The number of pedestrians out with no high vis or torch is also terrifying- I had an incident this evening coming round a corner on a rural road where I came across a bloke dressed in dark clothing walking his black lab in the dark - luckily I was A. Going slowly and B. Saw him in time (just!). It’s just so brainless🙈

fedupwithbeinghot · 25/01/2024 23:54

LunaNorth · 25/01/2024 20:13

Yellow tinted glasses are a game-changer.

I just got those and finally I can drive at night again. They make s huge difference. I got them from Vision Express

HiHoOfftowork · 25/01/2024 23:54

I thought it was just us! We talk about this a lot- hate driving in the dark now due to dazzling lights. The yellow lights on older car models are much better than the bright white LED ones.

Kokeshi123 · 25/01/2024 23:53

Allfur · 25/01/2024 20:34

You're the one driving a machine that can kill, just drive slower

Totally agree, but drivers in smaller and more sensibly sized cars are also the victims in all this. Bigger, higher-up cars with blinding lights are making life harder for drivers in cars that have more sensible designs; there's the risk of an arms race. The UK needs to bring in some harsh tonnage taxes and other measures to strongly discourage the purchase of enormous vehicles. And those fucking lights need to be banned.