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Kissing babies

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Cyas · 25/01/2024 11:05

So I know I’m probably being unreasonable but wanted to talk about my feelings anyway cause I was wondering if it’s just me feeling like this…

We had the don’t kiss baby in the face rule with IL family, who begrudgingly agreed to it - although on their second visits both parents in law and great grandmother kissed her in the face (baby was around 2 months ). Not sure if it was just reflex as she is very cute so I didn’t make a thing out of it, but it’s made me feel very uncomfortable because it feels like your requests and boundaries are being ignored and you can’t trust people to protect your baby’s health just because they want to kiss her?

Now baby is turning 3 months and I think the advice is that it’s now okay because it also builds their immune system? I’ve definitely been out and about with her at baby classes and seeing friends etc although it is still prime virus season. The thing is that I still don’t want anyone but me and my husband kissing the baby. I don’t quite know why, it just feels weird to me that other ppl would be so obsessed with kissing her (IL family have talked about wanting newborn cuddles and kisses, as if the baby was just there to make them feel better), as if she was a little cuddly toy prop for them to use? It’s still winter so I’m still paranoid about her getting ill. She has had sniffles from me before but then I can give her antibodies via breast milk. Maybe it’s also something about consent, and I want to protect baby? So I don’t want to be a kiss and cuddle grinch and ppl are welcome to hold her etc but just sharing how I feel and whether anyone else has experienced something similar…

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ColleenDonaghy · 25/01/2024 13:35

MaryShelley1818 · 25/01/2024 13:16

YABU I'd be devastated if our parents and grandparents didn't want to cuddle and kiss our children. Seems very cold and distant. It's surely a normal human reaction from family.

Me too.

OP the no kissing advice is either very new or area dependent, mine are 5 and 3 and we had no such advice, including for the one born in summer 2020, so it won't be familiar to the wider family at all.

Kissing and cuddling babies is the most natural thing in the world. Don't keep loving family at a distance.

s4usagefingers · 25/01/2024 13:31

It’s very hard and a common issue really. Some in laws and my own family get cold sores but they’ve all been very careful. It's learning to trust others and see how people go. Personally I let people do the odd kiss on the head and cheeks and I feel ok with it but it was harder when he was younger. I’ve never really had to say anything. No mouth kisses but I don’t kiss on the mouth either. It gets less worrying once they grow and become more robust.

just wanted to add that when you come out with “rules” or dos and donts then people tend to respond much more badly than when you play by ear. If you do see something you don’t like then speak up but try not to come out with a long list of what people can and can’t do.

NotToYou · 25/01/2024 13:27

No kisses on the lips seems reasonable (my family aren't lip kissers anyway) but I don't see the problem with cheek or forehead kisses. Why don't you want people to kiss your baby? Aren't you pleased that people love her and want to demonstrate their affection?

viridiano · 25/01/2024 13:23

I get how you feel OP, but I would really struggle to enforce this rule with parents/ grandparents. I would probably compromise and ask other friends/ more distant family not to, but if the grandparents were not actually unwell, I would probably just accept it.

It's a really awkward thing to make a fuss about, especially in a generation where a lot of things were very different. In my family the phrase 'well it never did me any harm!" seems to be uttered every 10 minutes. It's tiresome but truthfully one kiss from a grandparent is unlikely to harm your baby.

DTNY · 25/01/2024 13:23

what a nice vibe on this message board!

you've made this comment directly after my comment and I was the only one who had commented since your last one. So I'll take it this was directed at me for saying the responses would have been different if you were talking about before 3 months. Given that I didn't say anything wrong, I am wondering if maybe you're a bit sensitive.

MaryShelley1818 · 25/01/2024 13:16

YABU I'd be devastated if our parents and grandparents didn't want to cuddle and kiss our children. Seems very cold and distant. It's surely a normal human reaction from family.

afkonholidaynearleek · 25/01/2024 13:16

what a nice vibe on this message board!
That's AIBU!

Winnipeggy · 25/01/2024 13:13

Cyas · 25/01/2024 12:58

Yep I was responding to the person who said they didn’t know anything about babies and said someone they knew had lots of rules, so was explaining the before 3 months rule :)

what a nice vibe on this message board!

Ok but not sure what you want? Us all to say yes you're right and we all feel the same way?

I didn't mind family kissing my baby at all, she's 2 now and absolutely fine, in fact I've never been bothered by germs and she has a really good immune system. But it's entirely your decision obviously

You can't ask for opinions and then get snarky when people don't 100% agree with you.

Cyas · 25/01/2024 12:58

Yep I was responding to the person who said they didn’t know anything about babies and said someone they knew had lots of rules, so was explaining the before 3 months rule :)

what a nice vibe on this message board!

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DTNY · 25/01/2024 12:50

You're asking about the after 3 months though, not before 3 months. The responses would be different before 3 months.

Cyas · 25/01/2024 12:42

Thanks for the feedback! Was looking for a tiny bit more empathy but alas 😊

FYI to those who don’t know - every doctor and midwife says no kisses in the face for the first three months as babies can get terribly ill when they’re that little, and in some cases die, so not sure worth taking chances. It’s not some horrible rule we invented to keep relatives from the baby.

to the person asking about my own family - same rules for them, just that they live far away and haven’t seen her yet.

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cadburyegg · 25/01/2024 12:30

Honestly, you are being a bit precious. And slightly hypocritical given that you are going to baby classes - many of those babies will have siblings in nursery and school, who will pass on many more bugs than a grandparent is likely to.

I allowed ds1 to kiss and cuddle ds2 from day 1 and he was in nursery. I don't remember ds2 ever being unwell when I was ebf, although that may well be a coincidence.

MereDintofPandiculation · 25/01/2024 12:29

We had the don’t kiss baby in the face rule with IL family But not with your own family, even though both families have exactly the same degree of relationship to the baby?

DTNY · 25/01/2024 12:23

As long as you realise how it comes across, what's wrong with grandparents kissing a grandchild on the cheek/head?

Flamingogirl08 · 25/01/2024 12:21

Babies are so cute and cuddly that I think it's just human instinct to give them a big smooch especially if they're your grandkids and you love and adore them.

At 3 months I say bring on the kisses and cuddles personally.

CeeceeBloomingdale · 25/01/2024 12:21

I'd think you a bit precious to be honest. As long as no one is trying to do it with a cold sore or a cold, I think a cuddle and a kiss on top of the head is fairly common place at this stage. One of mine crawled early so was chewing shoes at not much older. Building up an immune system is a good thing as long as people aren't ill or contagious I'd allow contact. Relationships are important and they just want to bond.

MooseBreath · 25/01/2024 12:14

I think at 3 months, it's a bit precious. Babies are typically doing a fair bit of tummy time at that point and putting things in their mouths.

Your baby though, so you make the rules!

Nanny0gg · 25/01/2024 12:08

MammaTo · 25/01/2024 12:00

I do understand about the no kissing rule with it being RSV season and lots of coughs and colds flying about.
But I think at 3 months I’d be letting people have cuddles with baby, there is nothing better then a cuddly newborn when they’re gooing and cooing at you - so I felt happy to share that experience with family. I didn’t feel like they was using baby as a prop as you say, I felt family genuinely wanted to share in the joy the new baby brought.

This.

One day you all may be grandparents.

And whilst I completely understand and respect the caution around cold sores you'll have the same feelings around your grandchildren as we do. We know (or most of us do!) that we're not the parents. But it's still overwhelming

MammaTo · 25/01/2024 12:00

I do understand about the no kissing rule with it being RSV season and lots of coughs and colds flying about.
But I think at 3 months I’d be letting people have cuddles with baby, there is nothing better then a cuddly newborn when they’re gooing and cooing at you - so I felt happy to share that experience with family. I didn’t feel like they was using baby as a prop as you say, I felt family genuinely wanted to share in the joy the new baby brought.

ComtesseDeSpair · 25/01/2024 11:21

Also, many of these relatives aren’t seeing a baby for the first time, they will have raised their own. My SIL had a baby last year. At Christmas we were all treated to a lecture on how we must behave around the baby: no sitting too close, no talking loudly, no sudden movements, no kissing and no hugging too tightly. For my mum, who has successful raised three children of her own and therefore considers being told how to behave around a baby like teaching your grandmother to suck eggs, I know she found all this quite upsetting and offensive. By all means, explain to people why you don’t want kissing for health reasons; but do also be aware that you may be coming across as a bit patronising and overbearing, and consider your tone and wording.

ComtesseDeSpair · 25/01/2024 11:12

Older relatives who were generally a lot less precious about their own babies probably simply don’t understand or remember being asked not to kiss, because the reasoning doesn’t properly register with them. If you’ve been reading baby books cover to cover for the past year, your awareness is going to be far more heightened than that of people who don’t really think about babies much at all unless they’re in the presence of one. I don’t know shit about babies, I’ve never had one and never want one. I’ve no idea what the current guidance is on why babies shouldn’t be kissed so, whilst I wouldn’t kiss one (because I generally avoid even having to hold them) it wouldn’t occur to me that you thought kissing was going to make them ill in a way that just being out and about amongst the general swamp of viruses doesn’t.