To think that preparing for war with Russia is total madness?

If Trump wins the US presidential election and follows through on leaving NATO, the odds tip towards Russia expanding their war.

"The phrase is adapted from a statement found in Roman author Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus's tract Dē Rē Mīlitārī (fourth or fifth century AD), in which the actual phrasing is Igitur quī dēsīderat pācem, præparet bellum ("Therefore let him who desires peace prepare for war.")."

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Reminds me of John Wick

NATO is a job creation scheme for useless generals and diplomats who get pushed out by domestic defence forces. It needs US tax dollars to stay alive. It is in the interest of these leeches to perpetuate fear of war. Otherwise how would they get their paycheck.

Always follow the money.

not sure who said the quote but if you want peace then prep for war

What would be crazy is NOT preparing for war with Russia.

Don’t forget the French.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound? Not to mention shortsighted, inhumane and irrational.

i was explaining how the federation or one world govt, would not be a dictatorship

It’s not madness, Russia is your closest threat right now. I’ve seen the reports of your Air Force chasing off Russian fighter jets flirting with U.K. airspace, the Russian warships and submarines going through the channel and accidentally straying too close to your coast so the navy sends out a destroyer and subs of its own.

Russia has been probing and provoking the U.K. since before Covid. The U.K. sending military aid to Ukraine is the perfect excuse to try something larger scale like take over the neglected Orkney Islands for example.

I don’t think we are close to a nuclear war. We got a lot closer several times a year during the Cold War.

I'm sorry to break this to you, but Star Trek is fiction. It's not really happening 😬

When our generals were warning Russia was preparing to annexe Crimea, posters on here were saying it will never happen. It did.
When our generals were warning Russia was preparing for an invasion into Ukraine, posters were on here saying it will never happen. It did.

And now our generals are warning that Russia is preparing for war with NATO and that we must prepare the troops.
When will people like you listen.

"The Federation is depicted as a democratic republic, led by a President based in Paris on Earth.[16] Presidential powers include issuing pardons[17] and declaring states of emergency.[18] This president is supported by a cabinet.[19] The Federation also has a supreme court and a legislature, the Federation Council, with delegates from its various member worlds.[21] A constitution and a charter have both been referred to as founding documents of the Federation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Federation_of_Planets

We don't even have a one country government that agrees on stuff.

I don't watch bloody star trek 😂

It would have to be a dictatorship because too many people would be involved (9 billion) in order for them to have a democratic vote.

Also what about when humanity reaches the stars lets say the Asguard come to an agreement to prove the united kingdom various advanced technologies , and we choose to only share and equip our allies, how long before other countries would be willing to go to war to acquire the tech ?

another reason for a one world govt

who says or presumes it would be ? i was thinking along the lines of the federation style one world govt similar to the star trek version, besides considering how the elites get together at bilderberg meetings, i dont see how we dont already have a majority of a one world govt

A dictatorship. Yay 🙄

If Ireland was getting attacked, I would be up for acting…

Lol. Ireland only ever gets attacked by Britain.

this is why we need a one world govt, to prevent nations with advanced weapons, risking the whole of humanity

The only country that gets a say in whether Ukraine is conquered by Russia is Ukraine.

They said no.

It is right that the rest of Europe supports their neighbours, and America as the biggest ally.

Fuck off with the fear mongering, it happens everytime Russia has a setback and it's getting boring. Russia is currently relying on weapons from North Korea, and treating its men as disposable. That says it all.

Is pissing off the dictators ego, nipping it in the bud? Or creating a vendetta? It’s about him saving face.

Btw I hate his guts

Russia reunited is his current goal but the guy is a megalomaniac - I doubt you'd find any credible analyst that thinks he'd achieve that and then just stop. And I'd much rather nip this in the bud (plus keep Ukraine's sovereignty) than placate a bully and take a gamble...

It’s a gamble but if the dictator just wants Russia reunited (many analyst opinion) then it would stop there….

I am with you about the first they came for sentiments……but that would apply to our neighbours, getting attacked and then next is us….not the same issue. If Ireland was getting attacked, I would be up for acting…

Where would uk troops fight Russia? In Ukraine?

If you had been following the discussion you'd know it's about a potential attack on the Baltics. NATO countries, that is, so Article 5 on collective self-defence comes into play.

OK, I'll play devil's advocate... We let Putin re-unite the Soviet Union. Why would his ambitions stop there? He's conquered 14 countries at that point, so the rest of Europe isn't a big stretch further. All those armies under his belt up against us - we find ourselves in a world war at that point anyway.

Also, look up Martin Niemoller - "First they came for..."