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Park Christmas Savings Club - is it just a big rip-off?

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FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 20/01/2024 14:35

Now that Christmas 2023 is over, there are loads of adverts on TV for Park, which supposedly helps you to save to pay for Christmas 2024.

However, their main advertised 'benefit' is that you save a certain amount each month and then get it back in time for Christmas in vouchers.

No mention of them paying any interest on the money you're lending them for up to 12 months; and they also obviously massively limit the buying ability of all the money you save - so not only can you not buy any goods that are only available from places that don't accept the vouchers, but you also can't shop around if 'non-voucher' places have the same goods but at cheaper prices. And are the vouchers widely accepted, or are they just for buying from their own catalogue?

What is the actual point in this company? I get that many people - especially those on low incomes - really appreciate the structured discipline and find the regular commitment to saving helpful, but why does it have to be returned in vouchers? Why not just a 'save money, get your money paid back into your bank account/withdraw it in cash in December' scheme - even if they didn't pay any interest in order to pay for/make a profit for running the scheme?

Am I missing something here? What is the benefit of this? And are there now protections in place so that poor folk can't lose all of their savings in another Farepak-type scandal? Why do people bother with this - and effectively reduce the spending power of their limited Christmas budgets even further?

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PyongyangKipperbang · 20/01/2024 21:34

And lets face it, there is a definite implication that poor=stupid.

I am one but not the other.

Freshstarts24 · 20/01/2024 21:11

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 20/01/2024 19:39

Where was a I being derisive - wondering if poor people might be being exploited?

I didn't know they gave out vouchers for Amazon or major supermarkets; I was thinking that they might restrict you to their own limited, possibly overpriced range - maybe my mind falsely connected them with Studio.

It’s really offensive that everyone keeps saying ‘poor people’. I am not poor.

PyongyangKipperbang · 20/01/2024 20:10

I am not saying that this is the OP but some people really are being very sneery.

It doesnt work for you? fine, dont do it. But why look down on those that do?

I agree that ordering say a Playstation and paying for it over the year is a rip off as they are usually overpriced to start with, a bit like the Brighthouse scam. And the hampers, yes a total rip off but I dont know anyone who has ever done that. With the vouchers you get out exactly what you put in, in a format that suits you. And for people who might be tempted to "borrow" a bit out of their savings on a tight month, and then not put it back, its nice to know that Xmas is sorted and cant be dipped into. Not least because it means literally not one thought about it until shopping day. Just look at MN before Xmas 23, a lot of threads of people saying that they were worrying about how to pay for it, about COL and how it would mean that have had to really cut back. It caused a lot of sadness and stress.

And some people just are not good with money! "Why not just save in the bank" is fine if you are able to do that but some people really aren't, they lack the self control to not say "Oh sod it" on a bad day and splash out on something to cheer themselves up. I know because I am one of those people! But if they are self aware enough to know that they are not good with money management and use tools available to save themselves from themselves, then that is a good thing surely? It reduces the likelihood of using credit or payday loans or some such.

I really dont get the hate that some people are showing here.

BouleDeSuif · 20/01/2024 19:57

I have some money in my savings. £190 to be exact, I've just mentioned it on the How Skint Are You thread!
I like to have some money that can't be used for emergencies, hence Park savings. It works for me.

BouleDeSuif · 20/01/2024 19:55

I wouldn't rather do without a fridge so I could have a better Xmas.

I would have to be skint at Xmas so that we could have a fridge!

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 20/01/2024 19:51

BouleDeSuif · 20/01/2024 17:51

I use Park.
If I have money in my savings account, it gets used for other things throughout the year, because life is like that and shit happens like the fridge breaks or whatever.
I can't dip into Park savings.
It's guaranteed money for Christmas. Last year I lost my job in November and still had a great Christmas because I'd got Park vouchers.
I like it.
If I had more money coming in, I could manage it better. I don't, so Park savings it is.

So would you just do without a fridge for a while, then? That's a genuine question.

As I said, I see the thinking if it stops you from spending here and there on takeaways, Starbucks, glossy magazines or similar - but would you really rather do without essentials like a fridge, in favour of the promise of more/better Christmas presents?

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tsmainsqueeze · 20/01/2024 19:49

'It's an exploitative poverty trap for people who struggle to manage their money.'

I'm not poor nor do i struggle to manage my money ,i used Park for quite a few years so did my mother.
We saved for vouchers only such as M&S it was a manageable amount each month and was good to know it was building up without being able to dip into.
I buy throughout the year and save too and with the vouchers had christmas sorted.
Both myself and my mom stopped using them a couple of Christmas's ago as we now buy less gifts and give cash more so.
I never bought from their gift catalogue but can't fault the company regards my experience with saving for vouchers.

BenjaminBunnyRabbit · 20/01/2024 19:43

I saw that advert and thought exactly the same. That company are laughing all the way to the bank. Talk about easy money!

Set up a fixed one year regular savings account in October or November and you'll have the money in time for Christmas.

Nationwide is paying 8% to existing customers on their regular saver. Save £50 a month and you'd have an additional £26. You can spend the money wherever you want.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 20/01/2024 19:39

baileybrosbuildingandloan · 20/01/2024 17:14

Everyone's normal is different. Why be so derisive just because you don't do it?

Where was a I being derisive - wondering if poor people might be being exploited?

I didn't know they gave out vouchers for Amazon or major supermarkets; I was thinking that they might restrict you to their own limited, possibly overpriced range - maybe my mind falsely connected them with Studio.

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FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 20/01/2024 19:35

Precipice · 20/01/2024 16:38

it's so easy to need to buy food in March and so prioritise your available money for that rather than thinking about Christmas presents in nine months' time. The aspect of locking away your money until Christmas makes perfect sense. I wouldn't say it does, no. It's a lot better for that money to be available to you in March so that you can meet basic living needs like food, rather than hide it away for extras like presents in December.

No, I don't think it does make sense either, personally; but I was just meaning that some people might prefer to know that they have whatever Christmas they want covered, even if it means going without through the year.

Maybe I should have chosen an example like a takeaway, a few drinks at the pub or something else more of a treat that you might be tempted to get, rather than your actual basic family food.

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bugaboo218 · 20/01/2024 19:19

I save with Park Xmas Savings and I have done for years.

I am not poor, I have an excellent credit rating and i have savings. I just prefer to save for Christmas this way.

it is old fashioned to save in this way , by today's standards, but I like the fact that I cannot access my Christmas fund until November and that Christmas is paid for in advance.

You get back in vouchers what you pay in. I choose spend anywhere cards that can be used online or in a physical shop . Used to have Amazon cards.

The park hampers are an absolute rip off though and I would never buy those.

Freshstarts24 · 20/01/2024 19:03

DragonFly98 · 20/01/2024 18:35

Why would you be happy to lose 10% of your own money for the privilege of spending it where you want . I am not having a go I am genuinely baffled?

Edited

For the reasons I said

DragonFly98 · 20/01/2024 18:57

wizzywig · 20/01/2024 18:55

Isn't it the same as using Klarna or people paying off their holidays in installments?

No Klarna or holiday instalments are comparable with an interest free credit card.

wizzywig · 20/01/2024 18:55

Isn't it the same as using Klarna or people paying off their holidays in installments?

PyongyangKipperbang · 20/01/2024 18:54

DragonFly98 · 20/01/2024 18:39

Apparently they don't you get charged 10% to use your money in any shop that accepts visa/mastercard.

Not strictly true, its the same charge that you pay for any prepay credit card which a lot of people buy for holidays. Again, its a choice.

I personally dont have a credit card as I am not good with things like that, I have got into trouble with them in the past and would find it too easy to do it again. So if I do need a credit card I use a prepay one (especially for large purchases where you still get section 75 protection), and the fee is part of it. People dont think twice about paying interest on their CC and I see the fee as on the same lines, its the cost you pay for the convenience.

TheLogicalSong · 20/01/2024 18:41

Thatbloodyhedge · 20/01/2024 18:30

Yep so who would ?

That was Farepak, a similar scheme - not Park.

DragonFly98 · 20/01/2024 18:39

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 20/01/2024 18:37

What difference does it make to anyone who doesn't want to use it how it works? For whatever reason it suits some people to use it. They get back what they put in. That's pretty much it.

Apparently they don't you get charged 10% to use your money in any shop that accepts visa/mastercard.

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 20/01/2024 18:37

What difference does it make to anyone who doesn't want to use it how it works? For whatever reason it suits some people to use it. They get back what they put in. That's pretty much it.

MeinKraft · 20/01/2024 18:37

ItIsMyName · 20/01/2024 15:11

This a decent alternative

Oh thanks for this, I might open one of those

DragonFly98 · 20/01/2024 18:35

Freshstarts24 · 20/01/2024 18:05

I have used park for years. I don’t class myself as poor or in poverty 🙄
I like knowing it’s money I can not touch throughout the year. I can’t guarantee if I saved it in a bank. I wouldn’t use it. I’m not the best at saving. I also love the vouchers, there’s a large variety now and I do get some on a prepaid card which you have to pay 10% for but I don’t mind.
If I were to save money, once I withdrew it in November it probably wouldn’t all get spent on Xmas, whereas the vouchers are special for Xmas. Feels like a real treat when they come through the door.
I have ds’s birthday at Xmas too so I usually save between £800-1000 that covers Xmas, birthday and food shopping.

Why would you be happy to lose 10% of your own money for the privilege of spending it where you want . I am not having a go I am genuinely baffled?

Goldenpashmina · 20/01/2024 18:32

YABU - They are a business and this is their model. They are completely upfront about it so their customers can choose to use their product or a traditional savings product.

There will be some pros in comparison to cash - if you are on a low income, for example, it prevents you dipping into cash savings here and there.

Freshstarts24 · 20/01/2024 18:31

Thatbloodyhedge · 20/01/2024 18:27

I did
Stupid

So why was you asking if you already read the answers?

Invisimamma · 20/01/2024 18:31

I don't understand why anyone want the money back in vouchers, even Amazon. My children asked for quite a few bespoke gifts last Xmas that I couldn't have bought with a voucher and there's lots of things I can get cheaper elsewhere. For example with blue light discount (often discount codes can't be combined with vouchers) or on Black Friday, being restricted to vouchers would cost me much more money in the long run.

It's definitely exploitative of poorer people who can't just put the money aside in a savings account and not touch it until Xmas.

Thatbloodyhedge · 20/01/2024 18:30

TheDandyLion · 20/01/2024 18:29

I thought they went bust about a decade ago. Thousands lost their savings didn't they?

Yep so who would ?

Nonomono · 20/01/2024 18:29

Thatbloodyhedge · 20/01/2024 18:13

Whoever uses such crap?
Just why?

Read the replies and you’ll find out.