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To be worried about my babies development?

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flappybits · 18/01/2024 14:08

I've reached out to the health visitor with concerns at 8, 10 and now 12 months. I keep getting told that babies do things at their own pace and to not compare, and I do understand that but I also really do feel like my baby needs support.

I think his social skills are ok, possibly slightly behind? He doesn't have any words yet but he babbles, interacts, has good shared attention, follows where I point, passes me things, takes part in repetitive games like peekaboo etc. He doesn't point or clap. He has waved a couple of times but not consistently.

His motor skills I'm concerned about, he can sit independently but can't get himself into a sitting position from lying down. He can roll but he can't crawl, he can't stand, he doesn't appear to weight bear well at all his legs whether he can't or he isn't trying to, I'm not sure.

So yes, I am comparing to my eldest who by now had been crawling for 4 months, pulling up to stand and cruising around furniture and was two weeks off taking his first steps. My baby is nowhere near that.

AIBU to be worried? Or should I keep pushing for a referral?

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Freshstarts24 · 18/01/2024 22:04

Just to add, from what you describe regarding his communication and social skills I wouldn’t be concerned at all, but looking at the overall scores I think you would be within your rights to ask for a referral. Although if I was the HV I’d be 50/50 as to whether I’d follow up in 2 months before doing a referral.

flappybits · 18/01/2024 22:01

You're right, it wasn't the 12 month one.

So he's actually worse Sad

Communication - 15 (black zone)
Gross motor - 0 (black zone)
Fine motor - 30 (black zone)
Problem solving - 15 (black zone)
Personal social - 50 (white zone)

Bloody wonderful Sad I was only concerned about his motor skills. Now I'm concerned about everything.

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Freshstarts24 · 18/01/2024 22:00

just found this online but I can check tomorrow to make sure it’s accurate if you would like

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Freshstarts24 · 18/01/2024 21:58

flappybits · 18/01/2024 21:55

Not according to this but he's very low score I agree Sad

I can’t be sure without checking but I think this is wrong. Is it definitely the 12 month one as you can’t see the age.

flappybits · 18/01/2024 21:55

Freshstarts24 · 18/01/2024 21:52

Are you sure communication is not in the dark at 15?
He should definitely of had his 1 year review with the HV so give them a call. I think given the scores I would push for a referral, but try not to worry. As others have said, by the time the referral goes through you might have seen big changes.

Not according to this but he's very low score I agree Sad

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BananasInThreePieceSuits · 18/01/2024 21:53

flappybits · 18/01/2024 21:45

Only ever when I'm sorting his meals. Goes back and forth across the kitchen just while I get his food ready. Never more than 5/10 minutes really. Is that significant enough to cause a delay? Or is it ok in that sense?

They shouldn’t be used at all, they make babies lazy, can affect their hips and when they do start walking they often do it incorrectly due to them.

I can’t say if this has contributed but I certainly wouldn’t be using it, especially if you are worried about a delay.

Freshstarts24 · 18/01/2024 21:52

Are you sure communication is not in the dark at 15?
He should definitely of had his 1 year review with the HV so give them a call. I think given the scores I would push for a referral, but try not to worry. As others have said, by the time the referral goes through you might have seen big changes.

34weekmess · 18/01/2024 21:52

Have you got a playpen ? We popped dc in ours with loads of toys which encouraged them to reach over etc and pull up on the sides.
My ds didn't start walking until 15 months. Dd walked very well by 13 months.

DogualCat · 18/01/2024 21:46

flappybits · 18/01/2024 21:15

Communication - 15 (grey zone)
Gross motor - 0 (black zone)
Fine motor - 30 (black zone)
Problem solving - 15 (black zone)
Personal social - 50 (white zone)

That's pretty bad isn't it 😭😭

It looks bad but you may be looking for what he can’t do rather than subtle signs he can do it. Very often parents score their children lower but when the health visitor or nursery nurse goes through it in person they pick up on things you might now been seeing as you are with him every day and worried. Plus babies and children even by a year will do things for strangers that they won’t do for their parents!

there are so many little simple activities that can improve the scoring, that’s why they often give you activities and advice to do then recheck in 3 months for the grey zone and sometimes the black if their experience makes them think that it is a case of just needing a bit of time rather than an actual problem. Don’t take the ASQ as gospel though, I scored lower on gross motor skills than my 4 year old god daughter!

Ring and ask to speak to the duty HV tomorrow, explain your concerns and ask if he can be seen in clinic or at home by a HV or nursery nurse. Is he not due a 1 year review soon?

flappybits · 18/01/2024 21:46

@Freshstarts24 Communication - 15 (grey zone)
Gross motor - 0 (black zone)
Fine motor - 30 (black zone)
Problem solving - 15 (black zone)
Personal social - 50 (white zone)

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flappybits · 18/01/2024 21:45

BananasInThreePieceSuits · 18/01/2024 21:42

Is he in a sit in walker? If so, get rid. They delay babies walking.

Push along walkers are great, though.

Only ever when I'm sorting his meals. Goes back and forth across the kitchen just while I get his food ready. Never more than 5/10 minutes really. Is that significant enough to cause a delay? Or is it ok in that sense?

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autienotnaughty · 18/01/2024 21:45

I'd go gp for weight bearing , take the questionnaire and say you want a physio referral.

Freshstarts24 · 18/01/2024 21:45

flappybits · 18/01/2024 19:39

Gosh that ASQ has me even more worried, he barely does any of the things on that entire list, not a single one of the motor ones but also not the majority of every category. Is this serious? Sad

OP what are the ASQ scores for each area? 10 for yes, 5 for sometimes, 0 for no. So marks out of 60 for each one.

In my trust physio will not accept referrals unless the child is not weight bearing by 14 months. But, if more than 1 area is in the black we may do a referral to a paediatrician.

As somebody else said, anything in the black should be referred. In practice, this does not happen. Especially with the 9-12 month reviews as it’s so common for gross motor to be in the black. Communication is also quite common and we definitely would not automatically refer but would be doing a holistic assessment and using judgement as often they do need a little time.

Why has your child not had their review with the health visitor?

Talkwhilstyouwalk · 18/01/2024 21:44

I don't think there is necessarily anything wrong. Agree you should push for a referral to get the ball rolling but try not to worry too much. He might just be on the slower end of normal physical development.

BananasInThreePieceSuits · 18/01/2024 21:42

Is he in a sit in walker? If so, get rid. They delay babies walking.

Push along walkers are great, though.

Cookiesforeaster · 18/01/2024 21:41

I would definitely go to your GP. My health visitor was a bit useless.

if it helps, one of my DC was at risk of having cerebral palsy after birth and got monitored regularly as well as going to physio for something unrelated. Only started crawling at 13 months, wasn’t weight bearing or anything like that prior. Started pulling up shortly after crawling and then was walking by 16 months with no issues.

I don’t think they are particularly worried unless your child still isn’t walking by age 2….thats what I was told. There’s also nothing they can do it’s just a waiting game, but obviously you can support them and encourage them to pull up and crawl by moving objects further away and making movement into a fun game.

Children all so develop at very different rates. My other child was so much faster.

Naptrappedmummy · 18/01/2024 21:38

Could it be that he hasn’t had enough floor time? And that’s NOT me ‘blaming’ you, I was the same with my son, I suddenly realised just how much time he spent in the pram/car seat and basically just plonked him on the floor with some toys for 20 minutes, about 4 times a day. He went from just sitting but not moving to crawling/pulling to stand in about 10 days. It could be worth a try?

flappybits · 18/01/2024 21:38

I have wondered about hypermobility. When sitting he leans forward on to all fours but one of his feet is always underneath him and the leg always looks bent a weird way. If I pull it out he collapses flat. Sometimes when he leans forward and is on all fours with the foot underneath he will lean back into sitting up again and practically do the splits. He does seem bendy!

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flappybits · 18/01/2024 21:36

No he doesn't have any screen time bar giggling at Bluey when his brother watches it in the morning. He goes in the Jumperoo and his walker for short bursts but never longer than 10 minutes. Does spend a lot of time in car and buggy though with school runs etc. He has just started in a nursery but has only been for two days so far so they've not given any feedback other than he's happy when he's there.

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Shopper727 · 18/01/2024 21:31

That sounds like something that needs investigating. My 3rd son wasn’t weight bearing etc until 15/16 months then tiptoed whilst holding 2 hands, wouldn’t walk on uneven surfaces holding hands. I knew there was something not right.

Pushed for physio referral, which I got and son has hyper mobility. My second son also has it. And now my fourth. My 3rd son is the only one it really affected with his mobility. Not saying that’s what is going on with your child op, but it doesn’t sound right and I think further investigation is warranted.

Shadesofmediocrity · 18/01/2024 21:31

I know a baby with very similar gross motor skills at that age, he was referred to physio by a HV and has recently started walking, I think he's about twenty months now. I'm sure your baby is absolutely fine but it's worth pushing for a referral.

I think the communication and problem solving skills are really subjective and not worth worrying about at this stage, if he's babbling, interacting with you and playing games I'm sure he's fine. Don't let your imagination run away with you and start assuming there's anything seriously wrong.

Naptrappedmummy · 18/01/2024 21:30

No! I was just seeing if there was anything that could be hindering him for example HOURS in a jumperoo, or ‘he loves playing on the tablet’ type stuff. Walks with you, fresh air, interacting with you at meals, sounds like he has plenty of attention.

Gcsunnyside23 · 18/01/2024 21:29

Do you go to any baby groups or is he in daycare? Just thinking there might be people there who would have advice for you or even reassurance

flappybits · 18/01/2024 21:27

I do sometimes worry he doesn't get as much play time with me as his eldest brother did, between his two naps, three meals and two school runs for his brother plus a dog walk I feel sometimes like we don't get much down time together. Oh gosh, could I of caused this? Have I not interacted enough to teach him these things properly? Sad

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Naptrappedmummy · 18/01/2024 21:20

What’s his daily routine like? Do you have a ‘typical day’?