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New build social housing

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mrsclaus1984 · 18/01/2024 12:59

Our house is currently on the market, and DH wants to arrange to view a house for sale on a new build estate. It’s around a year old, not totally brand new.

The house itself really is beautiful, but I’m reluctant because the adjacent road is full of social housing.

I have said to DH that I feel we should at least have a drive around the estate at a couple of different times of the day/evening to get a feel for the place generally, as well as the social housing roads, before arranging to view and potentially falling in love with the house without seeing the bigger picture.

I’m sure that there are many people in social housing who are great neighbours, but let’s face it these properties do come with problems at times and I would absolutely hate to live close to any issues.

has anyone else bought a home on a new estate and not had any problems with the social housing?

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fatandhappy47 · 18/01/2024 17:04

I live in HA on a newish estate (7 years old) I'm in a terrace of 3, all HA, there are another 3 across the road the same. Houses a bit further along are part ownership. House's opposite are 5 bed private owned half million pound houses.
Guess where the noise comes from, especially in the summer? The people with the mortgage on their 500k property NOT the people in social housing

SgtJuneAckland · 18/01/2024 16:59

My first flat was in a block of 4 me on the bottom 2 in the middle one on the top, all privately owned quiet no issues. We were attached to a block of 8 social housing. They had a separate entrance you couldn't get into I've block from the other but we all shared a carpark. We had one neighbour who threw used nappies out of the window regularly, dogs barking all day, the Persian stench if weed being smoked, a guy we called Stella man because he would appear with a blue carrier full of Stella cans each day and then the sorting and arguing would start. He also kicked in their communal door and the tweens from another flat in that block kicked down the shared boundary fence. As the private owners we got huge bills for these and things like repainting their hall because it was scuffed and damaged. Even though we had separate entrances and one block couldn't access the other we were told it was the same property so we were jointly liable. They didn't have to pay their share the HA did.
It was a lovely new development in a decent area, the neighbours made it hellish.

AngelsWithSilverWings · 18/01/2024 16:53

The worst neighbours I ever had was when I lived in a large 4 bed detatched on a "naice" little cul de sac of the same type of houses. That was when I realised that money didn't buy class.

I grew up on a council estate - never any trouble from neighbours but that was admittedly in the 80's when social housing wasn't look down on like it is now.

My sister lives in a posh gated private estate and paid £1.5 million for her house - her neighbours are a nightmare!

You can be lucky or unlucky with neighbours wherever you live.

vodkaredbullgirl · 18/01/2024 16:42

Find somewhere else, we not all bad.

InBedBy10 · 18/01/2024 16:33

You should thoroughly check out any area your planning to buy in. Private or council.

Saying that I live in a council estate and it's dead quite during the colder months. Say November - April you wouldn't see or hear much. It's the warmer months when the trouble starts.

I wouldn't live in a council estate if I had the choice.

fyn · 18/01/2024 16:27

I used to be a Parish Clerk of a large parish with about 3,000 homes. We had two new build estates and I spent 75% of my time dealing with antisocial behaviour on the new build estates. The Parish was adjacent to a small, historic city in the South West. Not the type of place you’d anticipate the sort of behaviour we were seeing. 3 bed terraces were around £300k with the big 4/5 beds around £600k.

It was brand new parks being destroyed, vandalism, drug dealing, knives, criminal damage, thefts. It was absolutely constant, we had a monthly meeting between the parish clerk, social workers, police and housing provider. After about a two years a lot of the larger houses were selling up. I’m sure 99% of the people in the social housing were lovely but that 1% made everybody miserable!

GuinnessBird · 18/01/2024 16:21

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Not all social housing is shared ownership.

Dramasloth · 18/01/2024 16:17

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I think OP is obsessed with social housing and those that live there. Maybe it makes her feel superior

anonqrtb · 18/01/2024 16:16

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oh my good gosh, thank you ever so much for noticing a spelling mistake - fingers crossed everyone else manages to read it.

Thank god people like you exist.

Tinkerbyebye · 18/01/2024 16:14

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EmpressSoleil · 18/01/2024 16:07

I'm a SH tenant and before I moved (I did an exchange) I still visited my proposed new area at various times! So of course you should do that. My street is a mix of SH, privately rented and privately owned. The only issues I've had have been with a house at the back that's an HMO, a group of younger people, who have parties till 5am the moment a hint of sun is out!

In the past the only issues I had were with a house full of students I unfortunately lived next door to, that would party all the time. Never had any issues with just ordinary SH tenants. For that reason it's any house that looks like an HMO that worries me.

Kazzyhoward · 18/01/2024 16:05

I'd never buy on a new build estate. Far too great a risk as to who are going to be your neighbours, whether private nor social. A huge number of people moving in within a few months of eachother doesn't give you the opportunity to see the real picture as to what the neighbourhood will be like.

I've always bought older properties on long established estates/localities. When most people are settled and have been there years, you can see what the area is like. You can see how many transit vans and breakdown vans are parked outside, you can see how many children (and ages etc) are playing in the street or playgrounds or just hanging around the bus stops and corner shops, you can see whether there's anti social behaviour or not, etc. None of that is dictated as to whether the people living there are social tenants or private or homeowners - all types of occupants can be disruptive/criminals.

forcedfun · 18/01/2024 16:05

My parents live in a beautiful £5m house on a tree lined street of similarly beautiful houses and yet a family moved in who behaved appallingly.

Wealth doesn't bring class unfortunately. You can have vile neighbours in any street .

DogLover24 · 18/01/2024 16:02

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Imnotthemonalisa · 18/01/2024 15:58

Anti social tenants can be evicted; living next door to anti social owners can sometimes be worse.

Pugdays · 18/01/2024 15:55

We have 80 behind us
The neighbours decided to move because the house behind them attached a dart board to the shed in their garden....more than once a dart came sailing over the fence .
We've been ok though...well apart from the teenage boys from behind sitting on the roof of our shed and throwing rubbish in our garden,and once a half full coke bottle hit our patio doors ....but I just took it back round and they apologized

Mrsttcno1 · 18/01/2024 15:54

We live on a new build estate and there’s one row of social housing within the estate (I think there has to be now on all new build sites?), if the site hadn’t told us in advance which row it is then we’d probably never have noticed. There has been some issues on the estate since we moved in but not all specific to social housing. I’d definitely go and have a walk/drive round at a few different times of day/night on a few different days a week to get a feel for it but I’d advise that regardless with any new house purchase

ASwimADay · 18/01/2024 15:53

If there is one it might be worth looking at the estate Facebook group to get a vibe for the whole estate - you might be worrying about the wrong houses.

Neriah · 18/01/2024 15:53

Dotjones · 18/01/2024 14:25

YANBU to be concerned about the proximity of social housing, as you say not all people in social housing are antisocial but the risk increases.

Does it? What evidence is there of that claim? There are plenty of areas of private housing that have huge problems and antisocial behaviour. Wouldn't it be more prudent to suggest that people might check out ANY area they intend to move to. I have seen some wonderfully antisocial middle class people.

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SisterMichaelsHabit · 18/01/2024 15:46

I don't think you should live there if you're going to be so prejudiced and judgemental of your neighbours. 🙄

Dramasloth · 18/01/2024 15:45

I recognise your username from another thread OP. You’ve got it in for social housing tenants. Some of your comments were not only wide of the mark but spiteful. Don’t buy the house. I’m sure they won’t want you there

Beezknees · 18/01/2024 15:42

I live in social housing built 15 years ago. I am very boring and don't have parties. One of ny neighbours was making shit loads of noise cutting his hedge today though while I was wfh. 😆

Bargello · 18/01/2024 15:34

We bought a new build in a cul de sac of about 20 houses. A developer bought 12 of them and let them back to the Council for short term emergency housing stock.

Most of the occupants were fine. The ones who weren't fine weren't just a wee bit annoying, they were full on neighbours from hell. Noisy parties, moonlight flits leaving the property trashed, moving a "lodger" into the garage, feral children. The final straw was bringing my toddler home from nursery to find a full scale drugs raid going on across the road. And Council not interested as they couldn't prove which of the tenants the large quantity of heroin belonged to.

We couldn't get out quick enough. The problem is that things can change very quickly and if you get even a couple of really awful households on the road it makes living there a nightmare. The Council/housing association don't care. If people are regularly being moved on, you could see the street totally change in just a few months.

I would never again live somewhere with a high percentage of social housing.

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