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New build social housing

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mrsclaus1984 · 18/01/2024 12:59

Our house is currently on the market, and DH wants to arrange to view a house for sale on a new build estate. It’s around a year old, not totally brand new.

The house itself really is beautiful, but I’m reluctant because the adjacent road is full of social housing.

I have said to DH that I feel we should at least have a drive around the estate at a couple of different times of the day/evening to get a feel for the place generally, as well as the social housing roads, before arranging to view and potentially falling in love with the house without seeing the bigger picture.

I’m sure that there are many people in social housing who are great neighbours, but let’s face it these properties do come with problems at times and I would absolutely hate to live close to any issues.

has anyone else bought a home on a new estate and not had any problems with the social housing?

OP posts:
JamJar59 · 19/01/2024 23:04

Listentogold · 19/01/2024 22:37

I live on an estate with NO social housing.
Last month next door but one had a drug raid.
Their son was arrested.

Does that experience invalidate all the problems that people living next to social housing have reported?

Listentogold · 19/01/2024 22:37

I live on an estate with NO social housing.
Last month next door but one had a drug raid.
Their son was arrested.

Dramasloth · 19/01/2024 22:31

Somewhere upthread a poster assumed OP is middle class. I disagree. The middle classes generally couldn’t give a toss about who lives where. I’d say because of her attitude the OP is from council stock who found a bank to lend her some money for a house and now she thinks she’s “arrived”

Roselilly36 · 19/01/2024 22:07

My friend is desperate to sell up and move, due to antisocial behaviour, think carefully OP.

Rachie1973 · 19/01/2024 22:00

mrsclaus1984 · 18/01/2024 22:20

Have you not read my OP where I did say that not all social tenants are going to be bad neighbours? Are you jealous or something? I’m sorry you’re stuck in a council house but that’s not my problem.

My daughter lives social housing. Her owner neighbour is a class A twat. Parties, barking dogs, teenage gatherings.

SwordToFlamethrower · 19/01/2024 21:59

I lived in private rentals for a decade and every neighbour was horrible. The last private rent I lived in was next door to a privately owned house and the neighbours were the worst of all and the police were out constantly. They couldn't be evicted because they owned.

I now live in one of the new build social housing and the neighbours are drug dealers, pedos and benefit scroungers with huge flat screen tvs.

That last paragraph was a lie.

Point is, your post is rather offensive. My neighbours are lovely. Our whole street is full of lovely people.

Owning a home doesn't make you a better person and you shouldn't get your views from the Daily Mail and programs like Benefits Street.

Newnamepleasee · 19/01/2024 21:19

I think it's best checking for all types of neighbours.. as I was once the only social housing in a nice road of private, I can tell you the parties, weed smoking, and sitting in the garden at all hours, was from you guessed it

Hotchocolate2023 · 19/01/2024 21:11

Drosera · 18/01/2024 19:55

God you're brave, OP. 😂 These threads always go exactly the same way.

Let's be honest. Arsehole neighbours can come from any background but if somebody is a dedicated crackhead/piss artist it's unlikely they'll be an investment banker living in a mansion.

To be fair, my parents worse neighbour is a 40YO woman with significant mental health difficulties and a drink problem. Her dad has a lot of money and his solution was to buy her a house, park her in it and leave her to it. Desperately sad but on one police visit they said it is actually quite common once you hit the really wealthy circles

Hotchocolate2023 · 19/01/2024 21:08

I think you've got the right approach. In all sincerity. I live on a mixed road, it's lovely and zero issues. My parents live on a very expensive road and the neighbours are hideous. Constant squabbles over who owns the public road, obscene extensions, just generally entitled and very unpleasant. My road everyone very much keeps themselves to themselves. I couldn't name any of my neighbours.

You definitely need to do some digging, and search on social media but don't make assumptions either way

JamJar59 · 19/01/2024 20:45

Hey OP, no need to worry about the risks of living near social housing because apparently home owners kids are going to be a nuisance at university.

EmpressSoleil · 19/01/2024 20:42

Well could all you lovely home owners pls tell your children that when they're off at uni renting a student house or renting in a shared house as a young professional, that they have neighbours. Who really don't want to hear their parties! Thank you. Because that's the only people I've ever had problems with.

Drosera · 19/01/2024 20:29

I'd say the majority of social housing tenants aren't chavs, but the majority of chavs are social housing tenants.

JanetareyouokareyouokJanet · 19/01/2024 19:20

It can’t hurt to have a look about, like you would with any street you were considering moving too.

Saltyswee · 19/01/2024 19:18

I live in a “nice” estate of new builds, no social housing near by and lots of nice cars on the drive.

And every other month there is a break in! Knife wielding, don’t care about alarm systems in fact they don’t even care if the house is empty.

Buy the house next to the social housing….I would take that over the fear we experience.

vodkaredbullgirl · 19/01/2024 18:39

Gruffallowhydidntyouknow · 19/01/2024 17:45

Friends of ours re sold their house after 6 months as they didn't realise it was adjacent to social housing and they had a lot of antisocial behaviour.

I do think its quite unbelievable that you can pay £250k/ £ 300k and your next door neighbours were given the sane house for free but then don't look after it.

House for free 🙄

Riverstep · 19/01/2024 18:38

I think the boundaries are blurred these days. There are lots of home owners on what used to be social housing estates. There are people in new build houses on private estates who would never have been able to afford them without government support such as help to buy, affordable housing, part ownership etc. The ‘status’ of being a homeowner on a private estate is something that really belongs in the 1980’s.

beryie · 19/01/2024 18:01

@glossypeach
The houses are worth a million plus in the estate but they'd never guess the council ones were the blocks of flats?
I think people could prob work that out

Gruffallowhydidntyouknow · 19/01/2024 17:45

Friends of ours re sold their house after 6 months as they didn't realise it was adjacent to social housing and they had a lot of antisocial behaviour.

I do think its quite unbelievable that you can pay £250k/ £ 300k and your next door neighbours were given the sane house for free but then don't look after it.

glossypeach · 19/01/2024 17:37

sorry, but you have the stereotypical view of ‘social housing’. We’re not all ‘chavs’ who don’t work and smoke weed all day and let our children run riot. I live in a lovely newbuild area or ‘estate’ where the houses are worth almost 1 mil+. There are a couple of council homes, and there are two small blocks of flats with about 8 homes in each. The flats are council. Us people in the flats are just normal people and you would never guess that they’re council - or whatever you view as the stereotype.

you could move next door to someone who rents/owns their property and them be a nuisance - these people exist everywhere and not just in social housing.

loopyloolou · 19/01/2024 17:31

@mrsclaus1984 , as this is Mumsnet you will be vilified for daring to suggest you might be a bit concerned about living near social housing! I personally would not live near social housing. I lived in SH growing up, and would not want my children to have a similar experience. I'm sure the people calling you a snob have very little experience of the issues there can be.

PPTorPDF · 19/01/2024 17:12

Charlie2121 · 19/01/2024 17:04

Many of the comments on here are ridiculous because people are talking in extremes.

The reality is that experience shows the average social housing tenant is a less desirable neighbour than the average private owner. That of course does not mean that all social housing tenants are less desirable than all private owners.

It is no coincidence that developers invariably put social housing at the edges of any development site and the last plots to sell are nearly always the privately owned houses that are adjacent to the social housing.

Having said that I live next door to a privately owned property and the family that live there are massive twats!

Agree with this.

ThisOldThang · 19/01/2024 17:06

I grew up in a small village with lots of social housing. Everybody was normal except for a single house that the council used as a dumping ground for problem families. They'd usually stay for 5-10 years and then be replaced with another feckless bunch.

The local council were challenged about the way the house was being allocated and they said 'all communities have to take their share'.

Charlie2121 · 19/01/2024 17:04

Many of the comments on here are ridiculous because people are talking in extremes.

The reality is that experience shows the average social housing tenant is a less desirable neighbour than the average private owner. That of course does not mean that all social housing tenants are less desirable than all private owners.

It is no coincidence that developers invariably put social housing at the edges of any development site and the last plots to sell are nearly always the privately owned houses that are adjacent to the social housing.

Having said that I live next door to a privately owned property and the family that live there are massive twats!

beryie · 19/01/2024 16:52

@Bargello
Second this.
I'll get flamed for it but we lived next to social housing. No probs for about 4 years until the housing association changed and different tenants moved in. One had a petrol bomb put through their letter box, very obvious drug dealing happening, one dragged her little kid out barely dressed in all hours while her ex partner screamed obscenities at them. Rubbish dumped outside houses, sat outside drinking til all hours.
We sold up and moved to a neighborhood with mostly elderly people. Christ knows how we sold the house. Never again.
My mum grew up in a very deprived social housing area and I fully accept that private tenants/owners can be a bag of shit sometimes and the majority of social housing tenants are lovely, but fuck would I buy near it again after our personal experience.

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