New build social housing

If you have issues with social housing tenants there is much more chance of getting them dealt with than private tenants

You just made my day 😃

Have you thought about contacting private eye /newspapers?

I wouldn't really know and to be honest I sort of lost the plot a few lines in. I had to re read it a couple of times and even then it still didn't really grab my attention. It wasnt relevant to this thread and it just felt like a hijack.

Maybe if you condensed it a little and started a thread of your own you might get some responses this time.

Personally if it was me and it really was like the PO scandal I'd be reaching out to other people who have been affected so we could unite and start some sort of group. Get yourselves organised. Go speak to your local representatives. Contact local media, try and engage people in a nice way so they have sympathy for your cause.

Coming on here, hijacking threads and having a rant is just going to make people shut down and not want to engage in the issue!

I did Back in 2017 when it started. I got shouted at to PAY YOUR RENT by the SH haters. I wonder why im reluctant to start another one 🤔

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/amibeingunreasonable/2978114-URGENT-Do-you-rent-from-a-HOUSING-ASSOCIATION-Do-you-claim-HB-Then-please-READ-THIS

After spending many years working closely with neighbourhood planning you will find the social housing intermingled with the private ownership housing. I wouldn't buy one if I were you, your potentially lovely neighbours shouldn't have to live so close to someone so ar up their own bum.

Please stop posting this on every single housing related thread. If you want to discuss it start a thread of it's own.

Does that include rent arrears that arent really rent arrears because of the HA equivilent to Horizon.

I had a visit from my housing association income officer on Monday . Insisting we owe rent when we dont.

Get a load of this.

"OneSanctuary SAP is the name of a multi-million pound software system brought in by Sanctuary in 2016, designed for use by all areas of the business. It has been an unmitigated failure, and is a huge drawback of working for this company.
The issues caused by SAP are staggering and difficult to keep track of. Because SHA tried to implement SAP in a cost effective manner, they ended up vastly under-investing in critical elements. There is no tailoring of the generically presented system ('vanilla SAP'), which is an issue as social housing is a unique environment from a service delivery and CRM perspective, whereas vanilla SAP is more geared towards providing a solution for manufacturing industries. Thus, the system uses corporate nonsensical buzzwords and methods of handling accounts which absolutely do not reflect industry practice.
Here are just some examples of the more specific issues faced by staff:
No rent statements have been issued since it was implemented in August 2016, and if a resident insists on a rent statement it has to be prepared manually in a spreadsheet
The rent and calculations for accounts are hard to use, and often completely wrong. Mostly because the system was never designed to understand housing benefit payments, and this has a very convoluted workaround which a computer cannot make sense of.
SAP cannot interface with Local Authorities Housing benefit systems so payments are missed, lost or misattributed
Direct debits do not work reliably, and for a long time following the implementation did not work at all. Front line staff are now preferring standing order.
The front end system of SAP requires far more testing and money spent on it. Each customer account is a total mess of information, with no discernible way to separate notes left between differing departments, with information left by staff often going into the wrong account entirely. This needs looking at as from a compliance (DPA) point of view the breaches are serious
From a usability point of view, the view of a customers account within SAP CIC does not display appropriate information to the user (as stated before this is likely because the system was never designed to be used by a HA) and the user often has to go trawling around back end systems to find obviously relevant data (e.g tenancy start date, account balance, property type etc). This is a seemingly minor but considerable waste of resources"

And just like Horizon and the PO they will not admit that anything is wrong.

He stood at my door on Monday and pretended to look bewildered when i told him i knew all about their SAP. He also gaslighted me when i reminded him that this harassment has been going on for seven years and we have had previous letters demanding rent we dont owe and he had the gall to tell me that they were just general rent increase letters I can read. i know what they are and have kept them all. The first ones are tucked inside my 2017 diary with all the notes about their lies and obfuscation when all this started which is still going on.

And now a letter dated 21 June demanding £299 so letter was done 3 days before the income officer was stood at my door pretending that he didnt know what i was talking about. We apparently have to pay AGAIN because their system cannot find the money thats already been paid

My council area can refuse tenants or remove tenants who have been caught selling drugs. I know one family the husband was caught 22 years ago they turned their life around many years ago but are now stuck in private housing. I know one person living in his bought house on a private estate decided to supplement his income by having a cannabis grow. He was away for 28 days and returned. Its his house and s long as he's paying his mortgage it's all good for him.
Councils definitely do have the authority to refuse anti social residents. My local authority can even refuse to allow them on the housing list if they have built up £500 or more rent arrears in a previous property (private or social)

@Dramasloth I'm liking the cut of your jib 😘

OP if you can only afford a place on a new estate with social housing tenants then these are your people

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/jan/22/richard-blakeway-ombudsman-england-social-housing-health?CMP=share_btn_tw

Nothing guarantees "totally fine", but not living near social housing makes it a greater possibility.

I'm afraid so. It was devastating for the elderly people who thought they would only be living with other elderly people when they moved in.

Not just "nice" young adults either, alcoholics, drug addicts and ex-offenders, some straight from prison.

If nobody is saying that, why is the op posting about being worried about living near social housing? Basic assumption there is that homeowners will be totally fine to live beside.

So single young adults ended up in bungalows?

You know no one has said that.

Homeowners can be antisocial, but antisocial behaviour is more likely where there is social housing.

Most social housing tenants are good neighbours, the occasional wealthy villain might live in a multimillion pound house, you might find yourself living next-door to a vicious old busy-body homeowner.

None of these things negate the fact that you are far more likely to experience neighbourhood problems where there is social housing. If the complaints I received as a housing officer were anything to go by, the people who actually live in social housing know this better than anyone, even if they can't admit it here.

Homeowners are never anti-social are they, and are guaranteed to be perfect neighbours🙄.

Poor people having a potential neibour such as you

My parents have police involvement with their neighbours terrorising the whole road...they are homeowners and the house is 1 mil.

I have social housing neighbours and they are lovely, disabled and pop over with baked cakes and volunteer at the local shelter.

If your in an area of 2-4 bed newbuilds the social housing is most likely going to be families. A wreckhead stereotypical assumed person is unlikely to be given a 2/3 bed house.

:)

Where are the posts that say everyone in social housing is a yob on benefits? I haven't seen a single one. I think you are the one that's batshit!

@WhatTheHeckyPeck yep ive posted exactly the same in the past

MN - People living in SH whilst earning a decent wage should be forced to give it up for those less fortunate

Also MN - OMG I'm not living near SH, they're all yobs on benefits.

This place gets more batshit by the day.

I don't see how what you have said negates what I have said.

Social housing can include private rented accommodation. If councils are allocating private rented accommodation to people because they are eligible for social housing, the private rented accommodation effectively becomes social housing.

The length of time it takes to allocate those people to HA or council housing is irrelevant.

Yup. People involved in organised crime often live in expensive owned houses.