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to be irritated that football fixtures aren't available in advance?

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JadziaD · 18/01/2024 12:22

DS joined a football team last season. He played a few matches but it was a bit ad hoc and I assumed its as because we were new. Now he's a fully committed member of the team.

But while matches are every Saturday, we do not get info on where or when until the week before. Sometimes even as late as Wednesday or Thursday. So we have to keep the ENTIRE Saturday open as we don't know if we're playing at home at 9am or away (up to 45 minutes travel) at 12:30.

Is it just our division/league? Or all teams? And am I the only one who finds it so annoying? We do other sports and activities and this simply isn't the case with any of them. Either we know in advance and/or for short notice activities, there's a total understanding that if you can't make it, so be it.

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RightOnTheEdge · 07/09/2025 13:09

My kids both played football and my son's team had the teamer app which was great as you could see all the matches for the season and whether it is home or away.

My daughter's team didn't have teamer but like pps have said if the club are FA registered you can look at the fixture list on the FA

Cleodorevitch · 07/09/2025 12:49

JadziaD · 18/01/2024 12:53

@LittleLegsKeepGoing yes, it's definitely not at a competitive level. Perhaps I need to stop allowing the pressure of "you must play every match" to affect me. Because for me, that's the difference - if he plays at al lower level, and matches are more ad hoc, then I shouldn't feel like I have to be 100% available. And perhaps I'm putting that pressure on myself (him). To be fair, if children can't play, the coach is always nice about it. But the excuses are usually illness or injury not, "sorry, we're planning to get some shopping done and actually, we can't do it after 11:30...." Grin

The few ppl above saying "I do get why it happens" Really? I don't. I don't get it at all. Kids sports are a profitable business, and these businesses don't have any valid excuses for what amounts to bad organisational event management. Even entirely volunteer run charities manage to schedule their entire year's events, some with many hundreds of volunteers and staff and venues, not to mention every other event management team, in pretty much every type of organisation I can think of. For any excuse I've ever heard as to why the status quo is this way for kids sports, I can easily come up with a reasonable workaround that would resolve it, if only the business would adopt the process. Parents need to stop excusing it and giving them a free pass. They take hundreds of dollars from you a term. For most of you, that's more money than your phone plan, more money than public transport, more money than your council rates. Protest and, yes, complain. Provide actual negative feedback. If people don't speak up directly to these businesses, nothing will ever change. It's simply not good enough.

LaPalmaLlama · 18/01/2024 18:06

yeah I have this x 2 DC and 2 sports each. Makes weekends a bit stressful but I’m lucky that the teammates’ parents and I can normally work out lift shares to make it happen. Netball is always fixed because they have the courts at x time on x days and turn up to play 3 matches. Rugby is all over the place and can change at v short notice.

I deliberately chose clubs with big squads so I don’t feel bad if we can’t make a few matches.

Filler44 · 18/01/2024 18:02

JadziaD · 18/01/2024 16:32

We get our fixtures from the league 10 days in advance of the match.

I do struggle to understand this though. For other sports, the fixtures are fixed at the beginning of the season. I mean sure, when we get to things like knock out stages of a division tournament the fixture list might say something like, "Winner of group A vs winner of Group C" for a specific time and date but then as you get closer, you know that you will either play at this time or that time. But it seems that's not so easy in this context. I don't fully get it, but I accept it!

We get a general idea at certain parts of the season but there are moving goalposts (pardon the pun) in football.
Not all teams enter the same cup competition , some go further in cups than others, teams fold ,games get postponed and need to be replayed.
The league will move fixtures around depending on above to try and get all teams playing each week.
Hence we are never certain until 10 days before.

Youth football does suffer from flaky parents, please don't be one of them.
If you want your son to play, go with the flow.
If you want a rigid timetable look for something else

mrsconradfisher · 18/01/2024 17:46

All the matches will be on Full Time on the league, so whether it’s at home or away is fairly easy to find out. It’s the timing that’s often not confirmed, your team will rely on the other team letting them know a kick off time if they are playing away. That in itself is often a juggling act if they have multiple teams playing on the same pitch so it’s impossible to know weeks in advance. My whole life basically revolves around football. My son plays for a Saturday grassroots team and a Sunday EJA team, and obviously trains twice a week. The team is 45 mins away from where we live as well. My weekends are totally given over to football during the football season.

LoreleiG · 18/01/2024 17:38

I agree. We kept every Sunday free for a year last year and found out the times half-termly. Almost every game was right in the middle of the day.

I know everyone in football is volunteering. Like OP I volunteer plenty elsewhere and (quietly) find it annoying!

Jeffjefftyjeff · 18/01/2024 17:37

DS football team still has this and he is now almost in the adult team! Are you friends with the other parents? We often took other boys to matches/ left our son with someone else to fit in other commitments.

now he’s old enough for a few of the team to drive themselves!!

Flippinec · 18/01/2024 17:32

If it's an FA affiliated league the fixtures may well be on the fa full time website. Some managers/coaches prefer to keep this quiet from unknowing parents. Have you tried googling 'XYZ United U7 FA full time fixtures' (with the right details obviously) to see what comes up?

IndividualApplicant · 18/01/2024 17:30

liveandletlive27 · 18/01/2024 17:08

We have the Matchday app and know fixtures several weeks in advance. It’s something like 8 weeks in advance but then we have to wait for them to re-jig the leagues before the next set of fixtures are released as they might go up or down depending on results. Maybe ask if there’s an app or website you can see the fixtures in advance. I feel for you as my DH works shifts and we have another child who does a different sport so need to sort out lifts etc in advance.

We have the Matchday app too but it is nowhere near as co-ordinated as that!

liveandletlive27 · 18/01/2024 17:08

We have the Matchday app and know fixtures several weeks in advance. It’s something like 8 weeks in advance but then we have to wait for them to re-jig the leagues before the next set of fixtures are released as they might go up or down depending on results. Maybe ask if there’s an app or website you can see the fixtures in advance. I feel for you as my DH works shifts and we have another child who does a different sport so need to sort out lifts etc in advance.

JadziaD · 18/01/2024 16:57

if I were you OP I’d have boundaries - things like parties I would tell your child they had to accept or decline, and this may mean missing football if they clash. Likewise your husbands work. When declining football as a result, I would say ‘we have now made other plans as we can’t keep the whole day free for a 1 hour game’.

Yes, I think I have bought into this whole thing of 'we have to prioritise football as he's on the team" or whatever and constantly feeling this pressure that we can't let the team down. You're totally right - if things don't work out sometimes, then so be it.

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modgepodge · 18/01/2024 16:46

I think things like netball are often played at a central venue which makes timetabling in advance easy. With football hardly anywhere has multiple football pitches available on one site so you have the whole ‘home/away’ issue (though I’d expect teams to know if it’s home or away in advance) and it’s up to
the home team to communicate to the away the time and location of the match. I did used to play in a netball league which did this and my club booked all courts at the start of the season so at least our home games were known in advance, but away games we often only got a week’s notice and you’re right, it is a pain. I was young free and single then, now with a young family I’d find it extremely irritating!!

if I were you OP I’d have boundaries - things like parties I would tell your child they had to accept or decline, and this may mean missing football if they clash. Likewise your husbands work. When declining football as a result, I would say ‘we have now made other plans as we can’t keep the whole day free for a 1 hour game’.

JadziaD · 18/01/2024 16:32

We get our fixtures from the league 10 days in advance of the match.

I do struggle to understand this though. For other sports, the fixtures are fixed at the beginning of the season. I mean sure, when we get to things like knock out stages of a division tournament the fixture list might say something like, "Winner of group A vs winner of Group C" for a specific time and date but then as you get closer, you know that you will either play at this time or that time. But it seems that's not so easy in this context. I don't fully get it, but I accept it!

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Filler44 · 18/01/2024 15:19

YABU
i help run a youth football team
We get our fixtures from the league 10 days in advance of the match.
As a club we then allocate kick off times for our teams playing at home.
There is never a week when the same teams play at home.
We also have to take other factors into consideration.
Sometimes teams ask for morning/ afternoon kick off due to outside reasons ie parties.
Each club organisers it’s own kick off times due to their own parameters.
There is no way each team can have the same time every week I’m afraid.

DuncinToffee · 18/01/2024 15:12

JadziaD · 18/01/2024 15:06

@DuncinToffee oh, I think last minute cancellations due to weather or other issues are totally fine. I don't blame anyone for that. That's completely out of anyone's control.

I know you weren't blaming anyone for cancellations. I was just remembering the stress trying to contact everyone in time Smile

IndividualApplicant · 18/01/2024 15:10

We have the exact same with my DD's football and its so frustrating. Sometimes it clashes with DS's rugby, sometimes it doesn't. It's my birthday on a Saturday soon and I can't even make proper plans until I know what time the training is. I have asked and was told they had to wait for pitch allocation but surely it isn't that difficult.

JadziaD · 18/01/2024 15:06

@DuncinToffee oh, I think last minute cancellations due to weather or other issues are totally fine. I don't blame anyone for that. That's completely out of anyone's control.

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DuncinToffee · 18/01/2024 15:04

I did the admin for my son's team for a while and always tried to get the time and location out as soon as possible. Home games were the easiest as I got the allocation a month in advance but even then I had to wait for confirmation from the opposition team and the referee. Referee allocations were done by the league on a weekly basis on a Monday, it doesn't give you a lot of time really.

Confirmation on Wednesday or Thursday seems the norm.

Last minute cancellations due to flooded or frozen pitches were a nightmare, no whatsapp then so all had to be done by text or email.

ToniTTtopaz · 18/01/2024 14:56

We have a Heja app and it says games / times weeks in advance if you look on there. They do change slightly sometimes but not very often.

JadziaD · 18/01/2024 14:55

Raisinsandweetabix · 18/01/2024 14:07

Take your son out the team then? If it's a 'chore' for you unlike the 'other families' who treat it as a day out. How stuck up you are

That's some serious projection there. Bloody hell. I said that other families treat it as a day out so they don't mind the uncertainty ie because they don't have other things planned.

And I said that for us it is a "pain" (not a "chore" - putting "chore" in inverted commas doesn't magically make it something I actually said) because I have other logistics I have to consider like DH' work schedule or DD's activities.

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JadziaD · 18/01/2024 14:52

Some of these responses are a bit odd, but overall, I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing the frustration.

I didn't actually know that at this level planning in advance isn't so easy because of non-controllable variables. Annoying for everyone, I'm sure.

As for me not being allowed to moan and instead I should volunteer - I volunteer plenty, thank you. I am team manager for DS' other sport and trust me, if some of the parents were even half as mild and accommodating as I am about this football thing, my life would be 1000x better - I find it irritating, but I suck it up, I've never said a word to the coach or other parents and we are there, week in and week out doing our bit for the team. Unlike many other parents in my experience who spend their days complaining because they don't see why their child should wear black socks as he prefers white or who ask me where and when the game is, even though they received an email AND a WhatsApp the day before with ALL the info. Or any of the 500 other things that many parents do that is genuinely ungrateful and rude.

So please take your "if you're not doing it yourself you have no right to have any issues" argument somewhere else.

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wombat1a · 18/01/2024 14:40

Usually the other team and home/away are fixed a number of weeks/months in advance. The issue is normally the teams have to fit around other teams who are using the facilties, if they are a club with 4-6 teams and all are playing at home that weekend then they probably have to schedule them over Sat and Sun to fit them all in.

Dotjones · 18/01/2024 14:37

Seashor · 18/01/2024 14:03

Volunteer to be the fixture secretary then you have all the agro of trying to sort out fixtures in your spare time and all the joy of parents like you moaning about your thankless efforts!!

Was just going to say the same thing. If you can do a better job of the scheduling OP, then offer to do it.

Raisinsandweetabix · 18/01/2024 14:07

Take your son out the team then? If it's a 'chore' for you unlike the 'other families' who treat it as a day out. How stuck up you are

Seashor · 18/01/2024 14:03

Volunteer to be the fixture secretary then you have all the agro of trying to sort out fixtures in your spare time and all the joy of parents like you moaning about your thankless efforts!!