Dogs in the office

Ah but sweetie...... I'm not currently in the uk! I'm just lying in bed while DH snoozes a little longer, then we will be going down to breakfast, then we will have a quick swim in the pool, before being picked up at midday for an afternoon out.

You on the other hand ..... 🤔

BTW my dog is safely being looked after whilst I'm away, so all is good.

Do try and get some sleep though.... 2am and still being irate is no good for you.

I’m sure this will be an unpopular opinion but I’ll just say it anyway.
If somebody is allergic to or scared of my dog then that’s their problem.
Our dog is an assistance dog so very well trained, she comes virtually everywhere with us, if somebody is scared of her I’m not going to remove her from where we are.
I really do empathise for people with phobias, I have my own phobia and it’s awful but I don’t expect others to change the way they live to fit around my phobia, it’s for me to deal with.
I have hayfever but I wouldn’t object to somebody having flowers in the office, I’d just take an antihistamine and deal with it.

I do know where those posts are - they are nowhere they don’t exist 😂

You’re posting at 2am as well love, not just me

@KarenNotAKaren I'm not trawling back through nearly 400 posts to appease you sweetie! You've got far more tone on your hands than me, so do it yourself?

You're sooooo invested in this thread, that you must know where those posts are.

Can you tell me one person who (seriously not sarcastically) has said that they are advocating for a child friendly workplace? Just one poster and I’ll admit I was wrong.

It doesn’t matter that she forgot to mention it if he didn’t advertise it. Or even if he did / she had allergies, that is protected in law. Either way He has a legal obligation to provide reasonable adjustments to the workplace. It doesn’t matter if he built it up 20 years ago or bought it yesterday with lottery money, he chooses to take on employees so he HAS to follow the law! You seem to think he should be exempt from the law?

You seem very in awe of this boss who sounds like a particularly stupid man, I have to say.

Why do you have a dog if you work 6 days a week? That’s so irresponsible and unfair on the dog

I swear constantly, sometimes it’s an indication that I’m happy!

If it was just plain old “I don’t like dogs” and it was already a dog friendly workplace then legally speaking - tough shit on the employer.

But I like to think a decent employer would value a skilled worker over a colleague’s dog and reach some sort of compromise

Reasonable adjustments - meaning they would have to make a conscious effort to ensure contact with the dog was at a minimum. Such as a boundary where the dog can’t cross, scheduled break times to ensure the dog doesn’t pass the employee, a flexible or hybrid working arrangement etc.

Get the dog out. It's a place of work not a puppy palace.

@KarenNotAKaren FFS people are advocating for children being in the office as well as dogs! Your race is stopping you from being able to read posts objectively.

Calm down.... go back and read all the posts, not just the ones you want to pick apart.

*personally

initially Votes YABU because I wrongly presumed your colleagues were normal respectful considerate people, and that the dog was under control.

Definitely not Ok to let the dog wander around nor for owner to just head tilt and look disbelieving when you explain about allergies.

persinally and selfishly, I’d love to take my dog into the office., it would save me £250 pcm and my monthly income is no great shakes so would make a huge difference. However the dog is my choice and it shouldn’t impinge on others’ health and well-being.

Can be covered, IF they are disabilities. They are not automatically disabilities.

Tough shit though isn’t it! People aren’t supposed to discriminate. But they do, all the time. I’ve been turned down for god knows how many jobs because of my disability, but could never pin the cunts down legally and get them for disability discrimination, because there’s always some other plausible excuse for not hiring me.

@MadameCamembert I was just thinking from my bosses point of view. He's built his small business up over 20 years. He's always bought his dogs in when he needs to. Has provided more and more people a job. Everyone one is happy. Then one day Jane applies for a job knowing it's dog friendly, gets the job, then decides that no dogs are allowed anymore because she forgot to mention she's allergic.

I just wouldn’t hire them. I spend at least 6 days a week in the office and I’ll be fucked if I have to stop taking a dog with me to keep me company.
In the same way I wouldn’t hire someone I knew would bore me to tears or who had bad personal hygiene. Not everything is fair but sometimes selections have to be made for the comfort of everybody.
I do think in the OPs case that the company were out of order for not telling her and I completely understand her bewilderment.

I thought you was angry because you started swearing.

Does anyone know how a company stands who have a dog friendly workplace and someone wants to work there who doesn't like dogs?

I'm all for diversity. I feel this is weird one and I'm going to look into it as I'm interested in the subject. It's not illegal to have a dog friendly workplace so I don't know how a company stands if they are dog friendly and suddenly a dog allergic person decides they want to work there. I'm not arguing, I'm honestly curious.

And no life isn’t fair but that’s doesn’t mean you stop trying to even out inequalities

Well that’s the rub for disabled people - it’s impossible to prove. But trust me - they know. And it still makes it illegal.

Im not very angry at all. What a strange comment.

But yes dog friendly places should make it clear in their recruitment

So if someone was interviewing 20 people and one said they were allergic to dogs. How could it be proved that that person wasn't chosen for the job because of that?

I've done a CIPD course so know all about discrimination in the workforce. I know of point scoring when interviewing, looking at redundancies etc.

I agree that a job should be advertised as a dog friendly company.

I think you are very angry because of your family's allergies. I'm not going to keep arguing. Life isn't fair.

But being allergic to them is conisdered a health condition and if he wouldn’t recruit someone because of a health condition that is discrimination

@KarenNotAKaren well he's not actually broke any laws as he's not had anyone who doesn't like dogs come for an interview. He's got a great team. Most of us own dogs and/or or cats.

Not liking dogs is not a disability.

Yes, not the brightest recruitment strategy!

It is so, so annoying to be doubted over allergies, allergic reactions that leave you unable to breath, pretty crucial to staying alive!