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Dogs in the office

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banjocat · 17/01/2024 15:39

I've recently started at a new workplace.

Someone in the same office but from another team brings her dog in, and has been doing this since before I started.

It's a very large open plan office, around 30 computers in there, and also members of the public come into the front area (where there is a customer facing desk).

I have mild dog allergies. Not to the extent that it really causes a problem, but if the dog came and sat near me (which he sometimes does) I have to move away from him.

Despite my allergies I do like dogs, but I suppose I'm just surprised that no one mentioned or checked with me that there would be a dog in the office. With such a flow of staff and people through the space, there are bound to be people with allergies or other problems wtih dogs - I'm kind of surprised that this is allowed and just seems to be in place every week.

I don't feel I can say anything without it creating bad feeling as it's an established routine now and lots of colleagues love the dog.

Are dogs in the office becoming the norm now?

AIBU to think it's a bit rude not to check with everyone who is working there?

OP posts:
Haydenn · 17/01/2024 16:51

@banjocat “IMO if a staff member with a dog allergy starts in a workplace, then a person who is using the office as free doggy daycare should be told (with notice obviously) that they'll need to find alternative arrangements.”

well if that’s you opinion then 100% bring it up with HR then. 🤷🏻‍♀️ not sure what you are doing here asking other’s opinions on whether it is the norm, or ok.

you know your opinion, your colleague should be asked to leave the dog at home. Go to HR and push for this. I’d be prepared to end up being a bit unpopular though

banjocat · 17/01/2024 16:51

ArabellaScott · 17/01/2024 16:49

I occassionally take my dog into work. However, I realised last week that new start doesn't like dogs, because she politely said so. I will simply not take the dog into the office again, it's really not a big deal and if someone had allergies or a phobia etc I'd really want to know that rather than them be uncomfortable. It doesn't need to be a big drama, OP. Just discuss it.

I actually did mention to the owner that I have dog allergies.

As I mentioned earlier, she believes that her dog is hypoallergenic. I told her it isn't. She said 'oh right' with a face that said 'I don't believe you'. And that was that.

OP posts:
ArabellaScott · 17/01/2024 16:49

I occassionally take my dog into work. However, I realised last week that new start doesn't like dogs, because she politely said so. I will simply not take the dog into the office again, it's really not a big deal and if someone had allergies or a phobia etc I'd really want to know that rather than them be uncomfortable. It doesn't need to be a big drama, OP. Just discuss it.

banjocat · 17/01/2024 16:48

@Skybluecoat Assistance dogs sit still next to their owners. This dog walks around the office greeting people and also carrying around its slobbery toy (which people throw around the office too). There's quite a big difference.

Having said that, I also think that people should be told if there are assistance dogs in the office, because some people have severe allergies and wouldn't cope with a golden retriever/ lab.

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Skybluecoat · 17/01/2024 16:46

But there could be a dog in any workplace at any time if you consider assistance dogs, so if it was a big deal you would have mentioned it on health questionnaires etc surely?

Colleagues bring dogs into my office I bloody love it. I know several other people whose workplaces are dog friendly now. I guess if you really don’t like it you would have to apply for a job elsewhere.

SwimmingWorrier · 17/01/2024 16:46

banjocat · 17/01/2024 16:34

I really don't understand those people saying I could have chosen not taken the job had I known.

The only reason the dog is there is so that someone doesn't have to pay a dog walker/ pet sitter. The office isn't advertised as dog friendly and no one else brings their dog.

IMO if a staff member with a dog allergy starts in a workplace, then a person who is using the office as free doggy daycare should be told (with notice obviously) that they'll need to find alternative arrangements.

I like dogs despite my allergies, but I am pretty firmly on the side of those who are saying offices are not really the place for them, especially if there are people who are allergic or scared of them. People come first.

My boss wouldn't employ somebody who minded his dogs. You should have been told before you accepted the job though which my boss did.

kisstheblarney · 17/01/2024 16:46

duckpancakes · 17/01/2024 16:43

I'm going to start bringing my 3 year-old child to work with me

Great idea! It's the best environment for them, get them working as well to eat their keep.

I just warn you, dogs are much cuter than 3 year olds!

Brefugee · 17/01/2024 16:44

duckpancakes · 17/01/2024 16:43

I'm going to start bringing my 3 year-old child to work with me

if your employer is fine with that, why not? i had to do it a time or two when my DC were small and i had no childcare.

DamnUserName21 · 17/01/2024 16:44

Catza · 17/01/2024 15:57

It's pretty unrealistic to check every employee for allergies. There is nothing entitled about bringing a dog into a dog-friendly office. I won't be going around checking if all my colleagues are OK with me wearing perfume, eating fish or nuts, wearing a woollen jumper or bringing fresh flowers to put on my desk. There are people with millions of allergies and the onus is on them to inform the employer/colleagues of what they can and can't work with (and not take the job if accommodations can't be made).
I have sensory sensitivities and I don't think my colleagues are "entitled" when they turn the lights on or have a fan on their desk. I simply ask them to turn the fan so it doesn't blow on me and ask if it would be OK for me to turn the lights off during daylight hours. Because they are, indeed, entitled to do whatever is permitted in company policies but not in the way you mean when you say "entitled" about your work colleague.

It's not unrealistic. A lot of employers, especially med to large ones, want new employees to do an occupational health pre-employment questionnaire. These often ask about allergies.

duckpancakes · 17/01/2024 16:43

I'm going to start bringing my 3 year-old child to work with me

ArabellaScott · 17/01/2024 16:42

OP please tell them you have an allergy! It's perfectly possible to frame it pleasantly and politely - and yes, if someone in an office had a nut allergy etc then one would surely expect other staff to not bring nuts in. Don't suffer in silence!

falafelover · 17/01/2024 16:41

He also has hyper times when he runs around a lot.

That would annoy me. I've never minded office dogs but the only ones I've come across were perfectly behaved and placid. They spent all day quietly curled up by their owners. I haven't been in an office since Covid, and I bet it's a very different story now.

Brefugee · 17/01/2024 16:40

OP, you simply have to mention to HR, your manager or the dog owner that yu have an allergy and ask them to work with you to mitigate your exposure. You are a grown up with a job, this cannot be beyond you?

FWIW - i have a massive, MASSIVE, allergy to guinea pigs. Really badly allergic. In a previous, hot desking, job, a colleague who had 4 of them, who used to play with them before work, sat on my chair, once, during a meeting. And i had such an attack (completely unexpected) of asthma, so much so that an ambulance was called.

After that. I got a new chair. It had my name on it. Nobody who owned small furry animals sat on it because a company wide memo to that effect was sent out. And it was fine.

kisstheblarney · 17/01/2024 16:38

MadamVastra · 17/01/2024 16:34

Ah I would love love love it

id tie a balloon to her collar to see where she is like the office corgi on insta 😂

GrinGrin

MadamVastra · 17/01/2024 16:34

Ah I would love love love it

id tie a balloon to her collar to see where she is like the office corgi on insta 😂

banjocat · 17/01/2024 16:34

I really don't understand those people saying I could have chosen not taken the job had I known.

The only reason the dog is there is so that someone doesn't have to pay a dog walker/ pet sitter. The office isn't advertised as dog friendly and no one else brings their dog.

IMO if a staff member with a dog allergy starts in a workplace, then a person who is using the office as free doggy daycare should be told (with notice obviously) that they'll need to find alternative arrangements.

I like dogs despite my allergies, but I am pretty firmly on the side of those who are saying offices are not really the place for them, especially if there are people who are allergic or scared of them. People come first.

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GasPanic · 17/01/2024 16:34

What happens if the pet bites someone ?

Does the employer get sued for not having a safe working environment and does their insurance cover that ? Or is it the owners responsibility ?

Ponderingwindow · 17/01/2024 16:31

Sadly this is just one of many cases where people with allergies in the workplace get turned into pariahs for speaking up. You really don’t have a choice though. You are entitled to employment without getting sick every day. You need to speak to hr. Make it their problem to provide you with a safe workspace. Depending on the severity of your allergy that could range from dog-free zones and increased cleaning to banning dogs.

GasPanic · 17/01/2024 16:30

Seems a bit crazy to me. If you are going to allow one pet, why not allow others ?

Then you'd get an office overrun with snakes, squawking parrots, dogs, cats and guinea pigs.

Or if you only allow dogs then surely you get accused of favouritism ?

Would they allow me to bring in my Tarantula ? It likes to roam.

kisstheblarney · 17/01/2024 16:27

banjocat · 17/01/2024 15:46

@Haydenn The dog walks around the room freely so can't get away from him. He's friendly and greets everyone which can be sweet (as I said, I do like dogs), but I am allergic.

He also has hyper times when he runs around a lot.

I think it's inconsiderate to just assume it's OK to bring your dog in when it's a large office where lots of people work, and many people do have allergies or other aversions to dogs.

The person whose dog it is thinks it's 'hypoallergenic'. As an allergy sufferer, I can confirm that there is no such thing as a hypoallergenic dog.

I just think the whole thing is a bit entitled, really?

They are entitled to bring their dog to work if it's agreed, that's not entitled.

They should've told you though, you could've chosen not to take the job.

vivainsomnia · 17/01/2024 16:25

So wait for an instance when you start having a sniffly nose and start sneezing and then kindly go to the owner of the dog with a Kleenex in your hand and asked if she'd mind seeing that dog doesn't close to you due to allergies, but that it's ok as long as it doesn't come close to you.

Matter resolved.

Lovetotravel123 · 17/01/2024 16:23

You are not being unreasonable! My son has a dog allergy and so I understand. They should advise of this when advertising the job so as not to waste people’s time.

kisstheblarney · 17/01/2024 16:23

Flopsythebunny · 17/01/2024 16:22

When i had my dog he always went to work with me. I owned the company though.
Any potential employees were told about him though and they would have seen him at interview so it was their choice to take the job if offered.
His favourite time of day was lunchtime when he was allowed to go out into the yard to play football with all the guys from the shopfloor and loading bays

What position did he play?

I love an office dog!

Flopsythebunny · 17/01/2024 16:22

When i had my dog he always went to work with me. I owned the company though.
Any potential employees were told about him though and they would have seen him at interview so it was their choice to take the job if offered.
His favourite time of day was lunchtime when he was allowed to go out into the yard to play football with all the guys from the shopfloor and loading bays

MyNameIsBatty · 17/01/2024 16:21

I didn't know this was now commonplace and would never think to ask at interview if dogs came into the office. This should be made clear from the outset so people can make an informed choice whether to apply for the role.

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