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Man on school run

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Frisps · 16/01/2024 11:36

I see a man every morning on the school run and he stares at me. Like a really intense look and what I can only describe as an ‘evil’ sort of angry glare look on his face. I’ve no idea why. Never spoke to him, never had any issue. He doesn’t know me or anyone I know on the school run. His children are in a different year group to mine so there is no issues there. I just always see him every morning. The first few times he did it I just smiled but now I keep trying to avoid eye contact when I go past him but I can tell he’s still doing it as I feel his eyes on me as I go past. I did think I was being paranoid but I’m definitely not. the last couple of days he’s also walked past my car when I’ve been parked and I’ve been sat in it minding my own business. I’ve looked out my windscreen and then as he’s passed my window I’ve felt his eyes on me so looked and he’s staring at me like that whilst looking into my car window at me as he passes. I’m starting to feel quite annoyed and intimidated by this. What would you do?

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LilySLE · 17/01/2024 18:03

Sorry to go against the grain, but I think you’re right to be concerned. Mention it to other mums. Ask around if anyone knows him. Not in a gossiping kind of a way, in case someone is his best mate. Usually in a school there will be a mum with an older child in the relevant year group.
And take care. Be vigilant. Do school run with another mum if you can to get a second opinion.

CanNotRelate · 17/01/2024 18:01

100% agree

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mandlerparr · 17/01/2024 17:55

Just say hi. Ask how they are. Talk about the weather. The school. Small talk them to death.

jjkins · 17/01/2024 17:54

I remember something similar happened to me years ago but I experienced this look from 95% of the parents at my child's school. We were new to the school and I guess they just didn't like change.
It didn't bother me as I knew most of the parents and their kids weren't the nicest so I never made friends sadly. Thank god those days are over! Some people are just horrible and go out their way to try to intimidate people but I was not one to be messed with so I just ignored them all for a full 2 years!

rchblf · 17/01/2024 17:45

It could be a case of mistaken identity. I would make a point of directly saying good morning to see how he reacts. Try not to let someone you don't know have a negative impact on your day, just ignore and smile then have a great day.😃

Becgoz7 · 17/01/2024 17:36

My brother's face is like this all the time.

I'd have to ask him if he has a problem

SaladFingerz · 17/01/2024 12:28

@Frisps what happened this morning?

WeeMary · 17/01/2024 12:11

WTAF

Dotjones · 17/01/2024 12:04

Record him on your phone. Do it so it looks like you're on a video call or something, just happen to be holding it in front of your face pointed in his direction. Either he'll look away or you'll get the evidence on video. (Evidence for what, I'm not sure - even if he is staring at you, that's not a crime.)

Sartre · 17/01/2024 11:57

Are you absolutely certain he’s specifically staring at you and it isn’t just resting bitch face? To me, it sounds a bit paranoid on your part.

SinnerBoy · 17/01/2024 11:55

gannett · Today 11:50

Likeliest scenario is that he has resting bitch face and is just doing a 100-yard stare without even clocking the OP.

He's staring into her car, as he walks past.

gannett · 17/01/2024 11:50

Ignore him. This is the best advice for all possibilities.

Likeliest scenario is that he has resting bitch face and is just doing a 100-yard stare without even clocking the OP. If she confronts him in any way she will look absolutely batshit. I have massive RBF and was once asked why I was looking at someone like that. I hadn't even noticed them.

Then there's the scenario that he's glaring at OP deliberately because of something she's done. I don't think this is remotely likely, but if it is she doesn't need to do anything about it until/unless he uses his words to tell her.

Then there's the scenario that he's being deliberately weird or creepy, which is also vanishingly unlikely on the evidence we have. In which case it could be actively dangerous to escalate or confront him. Just avoid him.

Tbh I couldn't really get worked up about whether or how someone looked at me. Other people will look at or through you all the time and it's almost never anything to do with you yourself.

ArabellaScott · 17/01/2024 11:23

Sorry to hear that, Salad. If that were the case then the person in question has abhorrent views - another reason NOT to engage or challenge.

SaladDays2024 · 17/01/2024 10:54

Is there something divisive about your appearance?
Are you an interracial or same sex couple? I had looks like that for both the above.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 16/01/2024 21:43

ImustLearn2Cook · 16/01/2024 21:00

@Frisps record every single incident. If you can, hold your phone up and video record him glaring at you. He’ll probably stop glaring at you because he won’t want video evidence of his intimidating behaviour. But at least if you do have video footage of him you have a way of identifying him. I also recommend getting a dash cam for your car. My dash cam still records for some time while parked.

Look after yourself and stay safe.

I think the dash cam is a very good idea, as its useful anyway, and might help set your mind at rest. And its unobtrusive.
It clearly bothers you OP and you've listed so many occasions when its happened. Can you confide in another parent or a family/friend and ask them to look and see if they notice it too? If they do it might be time to see if they could video for you, so you'd have a chance to assess it rationally.
Its also not a bad idea for this person to see that you have people around you.

Mirabai · 16/01/2024 21:17

ArabellaScott · 16/01/2024 20:03

Confronting a man who is behaving oddly or aggressively towards a woman is not good advice.

Avoid, and possibly speak to the school or other parents.

IKR.

If a man stares at you ignore him. As I said a zillion pages ago

SerafinasGoose · 16/01/2024 21:13

HowToSaveAWife · 16/01/2024 19:28

@SerafinasGoose

"No: really don't do this. Never, ever, interpret their behaviour as your problem. He is the one behaving like a real weirdo here. Don't take on his weirdness as though it's in any way been caused by you. It's all his."

I'm not suggesting for one minute this behaviour is caused by OP, but by asking the latter part directly you are a) showing that the behaviour has been clocked and b) asking him to explain it.

Not once did I ask OP to undertake blame for this behaviour.

Not. Once.

No, you didn't. Apologies that my post did not make this clear.

But in itself, the question 'have I done something to offend you' is implicitly taking that behaviour upon yourself. That isn't to say you're suggesting OP is to blame, at all, but in wording the question this way it implies you're taking his issue upon yourself. Same thing with 'what have I done wrong?' when it's someone else whose behaviour is 'off' with you - this can inadvertently put the 'off' person in the more powerful position giving them carte blanche to criticise you, when in fact they are the ones being an arse.

I guess what I'm trying to say - and making a real hash of phrasing it - is that when faced with these situations we should probably question that person's behaviour rather than our own in the first instance. And women very often don't do this. As one who's been through my female socialisation, I know it's a real effort not to immediately examine my own behaviour first and assume I must have invited the hostility somehow.

Were I going to challenge someone I'd make it very much more about 'what's your problem' - than 'are you reacting to something I've done?' Because we do use language differently from men. We often (I'm no exception) need to be much more assertive, however subtle the cue, at batting their shit firmly back in their direction.

Men don't even have to think about the defensive forms of language women use pretty much unconsciously, I think was the point I was making.

ImustLearn2Cook · 16/01/2024 21:00

@Frisps record every single incident. If you can, hold your phone up and video record him glaring at you. He’ll probably stop glaring at you because he won’t want video evidence of his intimidating behaviour. But at least if you do have video footage of him you have a way of identifying him. I also recommend getting a dash cam for your car. My dash cam still records for some time while parked.

Look after yourself and stay safe.

Livilalaland567 · 16/01/2024 21:00

Don't know if this has been said but you can wear sunglasses to avoid eye contact with anyone.

WandaWonder · 16/01/2024 20:45

Maybe he is remembering what he needs to get for tea, it might not have anything to do with you

ArabellaScott · 16/01/2024 20:28

TheFutureMrsWolowitz · 16/01/2024 20:19

Honestly many of the responses here i find disturbing.

A person knows if someone is behaving strangely towards them.

Like- repeatedly.

The amount of minimising ' Well..... you must be wrong,. or doing something wrong. or mistaken. Or he must like you... or paranoid... or .. whatever'.

This is how women or victims of any sort of violation think that they have caused it somehow for just going about their lives.

The comments- of, you numpty- you have misinterpreted this. Maybe he just likes you.

Really?

Come on. This is why victims of any sort feel reluctant to report. Because others say they must have caused it.

20 odd years ago I was raped by a colleague and reported it to the police. Of course it came out. The response was- even from women in my office; 'Well, what did you do'.?

Yes, but also the suggestion that confrontation is in any way a good idea really puzzles me.

Coconutter24 · 16/01/2024 20:24

Could he just have a resting bitch face? Have you looked to see how he looks at other people? I’d have to get close enough to say morning, if he says morning it could be RBF if he’s still giving you evils after you’ve spoke to him I’d be tempted to ask if everything is ok but if you don’t want to do that just ignore him, he isn’t part of your life other than seeing him on school run so don’t let it get to you

Katemax82 · 16/01/2024 20:20

A woman at my stepsons school when he was little (in 2004) used to give me death glares. Turns out she used to have a massive crush on my husband! Maybe this man knows you from somewhere but you don't know him. Maybe you did something to piss him off

TheFutureMrsWolowitz · 16/01/2024 20:19

Honestly many of the responses here i find disturbing.

A person knows if someone is behaving strangely towards them.

Like- repeatedly.

The amount of minimising ' Well..... you must be wrong,. or doing something wrong. or mistaken. Or he must like you... or paranoid... or .. whatever'.

This is how women or victims of any sort of violation think that they have caused it somehow for just going about their lives.

The comments- of, you numpty- you have misinterpreted this. Maybe he just likes you.

Really?

Come on. This is why victims of any sort feel reluctant to report. Because others say they must have caused it.

20 odd years ago I was raped by a colleague and reported it to the police. Of course it came out. The response was- even from women in my office; 'Well, what did you do'.?

ArabellaScott · 16/01/2024 20:03

Confronting a man who is behaving oddly or aggressively towards a woman is not good advice.

Avoid, and possibly speak to the school or other parents.

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