People ending their lives?

I have been thinking about this a lot lately.

In the last month, I know of two people personally who have ended their life. One male, one female, both in their 30s. The female with a young child. It is just so, so tragic.

Suicidal feelings are usually temporary. If you can hold on the feelings do pass. We all talk about mental health as if there is some magic potion the NHS can give us that will make it better, it’s not so simple. It takes a multi-factored approach starting with lending a listening ear.

It is like opening a thread that says "share your pet spider pics" when you are arachnophobic. .

They haven't always been poor at all. Mental Ill health has plagued my family for generations. My mother in 1962, and my brother in the late 70s, both received much better MH care than my DD26 had had in the last 16 years.

Or common sense.

Gonna get flack for this..

I think it's appalling that the one thing you have no control over is your own life. The one thing in your life that is absolutely your own, and you can't choose to do with it what you want.

Good God what is it with some people and 'trigger warnings'?

The thread title couldn't be more clear if it had a bloody diagram attached.

So a trigger warning for what exactly?

Mental health services in my area are hopeless . In my place of work we often have to deal with suicidal people and 9 times out of 10 mental health nurses will say no sign of mental illness even if that person has voiced suicidal ideation . They get a phone number and told to see their GP. If your life is shit because of a relationship breakdown , bereavement , debt anything really no amount of intervention in the world can sometimes change any of this . I’ve known quite a few people who have taken their own lives and it does break those left behind especially their parents . I would say though in all of those events there wasn’t any hints of anything wrong before hand .
I don’t think social media helps at all and I think for all the ‘be kind ‘ things people post most of the time when people are really going through it they will get told nicely they will just need to get on with it or someone else has it worse .

I think the fact that some people are asking for a trigger warning on this thread, with a very very clear title and nothing at all hidden or surprising, just shows that some people have no resilience at all.

@XenoBitch oh no, I didn’t think it was a dig or anything. I just wanted you to know that MH staff agree with you on this. Any death in hospital is one too many. Honestly, any suicide in the community is also one too many but, and I hope you understand this, that is much more difficult to prevent. Everyone deserves help and support. I only wish we could do more.

DS1 cut his friend, and colleague, who was hanging down a few years ago. He’s in the army and was on duty that weekend, he got a call from the police to say this lad’s girlfriend had phoned to say he’d text her to say he was going to do it. The police were on the way but they wanted someone to go check on him. DS1 went and his sergeant followed on.

Unfortunately, despite best efforts from everyone involved the poor boy, and he wasn’t much more than a boy, died in hospital a few days later. I think of him a lot.

Suicide is far too common amongst the armed forces and veteran community. Mental Health services in this country are so under resourced, the staff try their best but they can’t do what they need to do with what they’ve got.

My boyfriend killed himself 16 years ago. Mental health services were as much a joke then, sent an occupational therapist out to assess him instead. Third time lucky for him that weekend eh? I worked in the same team as the people who should have been helping him...

I was suicidal for a time. My GP referred me for assessment. They refused to help me and sent me leaflets on sleeping.

The refusal to help me was because I was under police investigation. I was only suicidal because of the police investigation because I was innocent.

I emailed them and they said that they would help me when the investigation was over. I told them I didn't think I'd make it that long. Silence.

It's got one. The fucking Title - What else can it mean?

Trigger Warning 🙄

It’s in the title - it’s very clear

The title says what the thread is about so maybe people that are triggered would avoid it

They presumably weren’t in their right minds though? - re your comment about it being unforgivable?

We’ve had a few in my family, and I do agree that all that happens is the pain gets transferred to those left behind. I’m just not sure the person concerned is usually able to see it like that.

The rates have come down a lot in recent decades though OP, although less for men
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7749/

Google tells me there’s a debate as suicides been rising since 2008 and reached a record high last year in England and wales. So yes, the rates are worse

I think the title is quite self explanatory.

No it doesn't. The title says it all. If someone is triggered by clicking on it and reading the posts, then that is on them.

Absolutely. It was not a dig at the staff, and apologies if you read it as such.

My own personal experience is that inpatient care means you get stopped. In the community, I have been told it is my choice.

Thank you for the work you do.

This thread needs a TW

Why do you always get one idiot asking this like it isn’t blatantly clear from the title

@XenoBitch I agree that suicide in hospital should never happen. Hospital is there to keep people safe. However I cut a ligature 6 times off someone on Saturday. I pick batteries off the floor and look for hidden razors. Honestly, MH staff are trying their very very best.