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To feel he should/could have stepped up?

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MoaningMartyr · 15/01/2024 14:46

Whole family caught virus last week - maybe covid, who knows. Feel hot/cold/exhausated/ache all over etc.

DH took himself to bed for last 4 days. I have been looking after DC (1 and 4) - both of who are up all night with temperatures. I feel shit myself, DH says he must feel worse as he can't get out of bed.

Yesterday, DS (4) had a seizure due to high temp. He has had them before - but they're pretty horrible - ambulance called. Ambulance took temp of other DC and took them both in due to crazy high temps and fit/risk of fit, so off the 3 of us went in an ambulance.

While DS was having a seizure (choking on vomit) - I called for DH who was in bed. He came downstairs after me shouting for some time and then called 999 but passed phone to me saying he couldn't handle it and he felt too ill. So I was left with a 1 year old in tears at sight of his brother fitting, a 4 year having a seizure, and talking to 999 call. Then I went to A&E with them both.

When I was on phone to 999 I was looking over to DH on the sofa lying there with his eyes closed, and just felt such resentment to him.

Am I being unfair? It does feel like a pattern as similar things have happened in past. But he is very ill seemingly. He is back in bed today.

I'm not looking for a knight in shining armour - I'm perfectly capable of responding to stressful situations, but i'm always in dealing with stuff alone it feels like.

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Tilllly · 27/01/2024 00:31

Please do keep posting @MoaningMartyr

SequentialAnalyst · 27/01/2024 00:04

You are definitely not alone. In relationship circumstances such as yours, mothers tend to make allowances for their sons, I'm afraid, allowances that aren't justifiedSad My MIL did - mind you, I didn't let her know the whole truth of the matter, out of shameShock Even if I had, I don't think she would have believed me. (She died well before I had enough money to escape by divorcing her son.)

DPotter · 26/01/2024 23:59

I don't know why I keep posting. I've nothing else to say really. Just thuis thread makes me feel less alone

That's one of the very important things about MN - you are NOT alone

whitebreadjamsandwich · 26/01/2024 23:43

God, he's such a dick. What are you doing this weekend? Going out for 6 hours or so I hope, since it's no big deal

MoaningMartyr · 26/01/2024 23:32

Yeah, my mum has warned me off the "single mum" life a few times. She put up with a sulky difficult husband her whole life (my dad) so why shouldn't I?

H was just on the phone to HIS mother relaying the story of the seizure and hospital trip. I could tell she was gently suggesting it was quite a lot for me to look after 2 x tiny kids, one who was having a seizure, and get them both to A&E by myself and he was saying "nah I was so ill mum and she was only with them in hospital for 6 hours or so, wasn't overnight or anything" and his mum is going "ah well poor love you must have been so poorly". He could tell her he was a murderer and she'd be like "oh love you must have had your reasons".

I don't know why I keep posting. I've nothing else to say really. Just thuis thread makes me feel less alone with it and also holding me to account and reminding me of why I must leave

Night x

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Mitherations · 26/01/2024 09:53

I fully expect to be public enemy number one

Much easier to be public enemy number one in the peace and quiet of your own home, than lying in bed next to somebody who thinks that.

Keep going. It will be a shitshow for a while, and he won't be any easier as an ex husband than he is as a husband, but that's no reason to stay. He's never ever going to make your life easy. Basically, unless you put up and shut up and turn a blind eye to what feels very wrong to you for the rest of your life, you're going to have to bite the bullet at some point, and the younger the kids are the better IMO. Gather what you need, keep your cards very close to your chest and prepare for all the tactics to come out in turn, and some you've not even thought of.

It will be worth it.

PyongyangKipperbang · 25/01/2024 23:22

You know the worst thing?

When you tell him you want a divorce he will be, genuinely, blindsided. As far as he is concerned everything is fine (ie, he is happy) so why on earth are you leaving him? He really will NOT get it.

And as for him catching you off guard earlier, well thats understandable. Its easier to fall back into old patterns than it is to stick to the new ones sometimes. But think of it this way, does a glass of wine and a curry make your kids feel better? Does it make the terrified toddler cry less when he saw his sibling having a fit? Did it make the fitting child better? Does it take away his bullying and self pitying aimed at the kids? Has it healed the hurt and anger and terror he caused you that night? Has it made you love him again?

No, thought not.

TheotherMissHoolie · 25/01/2024 22:53

Look up covert narcissist traits. Don't take his behaviour personally. But don't feel guilty and don't spend the rest of your life living like this. Sending you strength.

MoaningMartyr · 25/01/2024 22:23

Thanks everyone. Things have settled and back to "normal". No more drama.

But I've booked myself a proper hour with the solicitor next week to go through a few more things. Then I'm going to spend 6 weeks planning, paperwork, ensuring my emails aren't accessible on the home PC, maybe see i can afford a therapist, then I'm going to tell him towards end of March. I'm very scared of telling my parents too. They are going to be very anti. His parents will be livid. I fully expect to be public enemy number one. But I also feel pretty determined. I am worried the kids will grow up hating me. That H will become even more difficult as an ex. He has no idea its coming, even though I'm talked to him about being unhappy, talked to him about counselling

Oh also they've offered him more hours at work and he's trying to turn it down so he has time to be "creative". I'm really trying to persuade him to do more hours as that will be v helpful in the split.

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Soffana · 25/01/2024 08:42

It is smarter to keep him in a good mood, better for the children!

Then you can leave.

SequentialAnalyst · 24/01/2024 22:59

Don't worry, he pressed your buttons, that is all.

But you realised. And he doesn't know that you realised. Which puts you in charge of your life, and keeps you safe for now. So not such a terrible thing to happen.

HaveSomeIntrospect · 24/01/2024 22:11

You recognise what is happening with his change of tack, just carry on as you were.
sleep in the spare room as planned and if he questions it, be home and say that 1 meal and a kiss does not make up for his recent behaviour

Daftapath · 24/01/2024 21:48

Abusive relationships tend to go in a cycle of good and bad. Your relationship does not need to be in a bad part of the cycle for you to end your marriage. I ended mine when things were quite calm with him. I had resolved that I would at the next opportunity to talk without the dcs around. It ended up being in our local pub, after I engineered a meal out together on the way home from parents evening.

It will be easier/nicer for you and the dcs to keep things pleasant and calm at home, so let things be pleasant. You can have 'the conversation' any time, not just when your relationship is in a low.

Mitherations · 24/01/2024 21:38

You're not an idiot, give yourself a break. You're in a notoriously difficult position. The sulking wasn't working, the curry and the glass of wine was the next tactic. It doesn't mean a thing, or change a thing, it's just a different way of him manipulating the situation without addressing the issue.

LettersOfTheAlphabet · 24/01/2024 21:32

You're not an idiot. Better for all concerned if things can be civil/pleasant. But keep on with your plans OP. One meal and a hug in now way negates him being so utterly shit in a crisis.

MoaningMartyr · 24/01/2024 21:27

I'm such an idiot! I came home to a home cooked curry and a glass of wine, he hugged me and kissed me and did a long intense hug thing...I just let it happen and totally forgot and just let him kiss me and started telling him about my day. I'm pathetic. One bit of affection or effort and I just gave in. He's back playing video games all happy with himself and I'm sat here thinking WTF is wrong with me??? I need to have more resolve!

@Mitherations I'm not scared of him physically. I'm scared of him trying to ruin my life.

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EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 24/01/2024 09:23

MoaningMartyr · 15/01/2024 15:36

there is a bit of pattern of him stepping away from responsibility - he falls asleep on the sofa at the weekend for long periods, he can't take them for vaccinations, he never takes DC to birthday parties as other parents stress him out. but i really thought when DC was so ill he would step up.

i guess if i did decide to leave - i'd need a pretty good solicitor as right now don't feel confident he'd look after them. though i suspect it's more about me being in there so he doesn't need to step up, and he would if i wasn't there.

My stbxh miraculously became competent at all those things he was too stressed or too tired or didn't know how ro do when we split up. I wish I was putting it on or something, but he once insisted he was incapable of making the kids lunches and I had to do it when I was too sick to stand upright without holding onto the walls. He has no such problems now when he has them.

The last straw wasn't his abusive behaviour towards me but his complete lack of any response to the news that our DD was suicidal. If he's not going to at least be there for his kids in an emergency situation what's rhe point of him being there at all?

Mitherations · 24/01/2024 09:06

Are you scared of him OP?

JustFannyingAboot · 24/01/2024 01:22

He's probably feeling ashamed of his behaviour towards his children who needed him (or he should!) and instead of owning his mistakes, he is transferring the blame back on to them to lessen his own burden of guilt, which is even worse imo. Abusive twat! Hopefully it is running through his mind when he is asking those questions to his children that the subconscious reply is that they are running away from him because he can't keep them safe or look after their most basic needs. His behaviour really ought to be haunting him.

MoaningMartyr · 23/01/2024 20:57

Thank you @GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing for sharing that - gives me some hope. I read a lot on here of people who have found a new settled normal eventually and that some of the toxicity has gone now they are separate. I can't imagine that could happen to us but maybe I'll be wrong.

@CalMeKate in the spare room because of our coughs but he has started to ask I come back to our room again. There is so much I need to fix in this house. Its falling apart.

He is still v sullen. He came in from work and went to sleep on the sofa and is now on his phone. Someone said I'm grey rocking him earlier. I didn't know that term but I've looked it up and I'm not sure I am. I just know from past experience that nothing good will come from talking.

He also continues to be so emotionally shit with the kids. The one year old walked off this evening to pick up a toy and DH starts saying to DC "why do you always run away from me DC? Why don't you play with your daddy anymore DC. What is wrong with me" seriously - to a one year old who is getting a toy.

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BuddhaAtSea · 23/01/2024 19:18

You need to understand one thing that we all did once the separation took place. They REALLY don’t care about the children as much as we do.

CalMeKate · 23/01/2024 18:31

@MoaningMartyr you will know when the time is right. If that is 3 weeks, 3 months, 3 years. You will make that decision when it’s best for you and the kids (although it will probably be the kids).

Get the fence panel fixed. You will benefit from it in the short term and when your house goes on the market it will help with the value if there isn’t a gap in the fence.

Are you still in the spare room?

MoaningMartyr · 23/01/2024 17:02

Thanks everyone for the advice. I am taking it all on board. I feel I need to do a little bit more prep - financially and emotionally - before telling him. Maybe two or three weeks or just doing some more reading and trying to understand what the hell happens when he loses his mind and we all still live together. I take on board everything about not waiting long-term though.

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Yetmorebeanstocount · 22/01/2024 23:35

Remember what the solicitor said - if you have any doubts about the safety of the children with him after you separate, just don't let him have the children. Let him take you to court.
That is your duty as a parent, if your concerns are genuine and not driven by over-anxiety.
You can agree to supervised contact with another adult present at all times. This is a service that you and/or he can pay for - look up child contact centres.

Don't let your worry about the children stop you leaving him. You have to leave him, ASAP, because it is damaging to the children with you staying.

TealSapphire · 22/01/2024 22:36

It must be hard OP as your kids are so young 😔 Do you think that even if he went for 50/50 it would last? He would have to organise everything on his days, drop off etc.

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