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To pull my 2 year old out of nursery?

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Melsmels · 15/01/2024 14:24

Hi MN
My son is 2.4 years old and has only ever been with me or Dad. I’m a SAHM with little family support but have attended soft plays and toddler groups consistently since DS was 8 months. He has always been happy at these groups, runs off without me and plays. Very recently he’s been wanting to involve me in his play there by taking my by the hand. As he was becoming more and more sociable, and advice I was given that it’s good for them - I decided to put him into nursery, 2 mornings a week (8:30-11:30) to meet other children and get ready for school when he’s 4.
He absolutely loved the settling in session with me being there, played independently and didn’t want to leave. However, last Friday was his first session alone and he ran in happily then I got called around 10 saying he’d been crying a lot and I got him early.
Next session was today with the agreement we’d only do an hour to settle him slowly - they told me he cried the whole time and wanted to stick with one member of staff, didn’t play or anything. He was in tears picking him. I then took him to a toddler group and he was fine - he ran off happily and I sat alone the whole time.

I am considering taking him out of nursery on the basis he’s just not ready. Is this a thing? Any advice would be appreciated!

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Sofabum · 15/01/2024 18:32

I'd persist. Nursery was brilliant for my 2 at this age, they learnt so much socially and did lots of activities I couldn't possibly have done at home.

Barleysugar86 · 15/01/2024 18:28

It's up to you of course, but I think you can likely expect the same if you wait too. My son had the same reaction to starting nursery at 3, it took two weeks for the tears to stop. My three weeks he was running in ahead of us and barely stopping to say goodbye.

WithACatLikeTread · 15/01/2024 18:26

Literallyoutofcontrol · 15/01/2024 15:29

I agree with you, if you wait till age 3 things are usually much easier as children understand the concept of you leaving / coming back by explanation. For younger dc they learn this though experience which for some is traumatic

On the other hand I noticed a child of a SAHM I knew who never went to nursery until three struggle to cope with it as she had never been away from her mother. It isn't a guarantee that being three makes it easier.

Dacadactyl · 15/01/2024 18:25

I'd take him out tbh. I think 2 and a bit is too young.

I was a SAHM til both mine went to school. In the term before they started at the schools nursery, I put them in a local church playgroup for 2 mornings a week 9.30 til 11.30am to get them used to being away from me...they never had been until then.

They were both over 3 by then and had no issues at all. They settled in well and no tears.

WithACatLikeTread · 15/01/2024 18:23

Melsmels · 15/01/2024 18:06

@RedRobyn2021

He’s slightly speech delayed and I don’t believe he fully understands what’s going on. The first drop off they hurried him inside and I just disappeared. Cried shortly after I was told.
He obviously remembered today and went in kicking and screaming.
I just walked off and I feel so much guilt.

If he is speech delayed nursery might be good for him then.

WithACatLikeTread · 15/01/2024 18:22

Flyingalone · 15/01/2024 15:22

Honestly he's too young, if you can take him out then do so. My son went in at 8 months old, until 1.5 years. Settling in was rough - he cried at drop off for 4 months!!

I recently took him out and we spend days together (I'm a SAHM). He is still incredibly small and I find it abhorrent to think he could be in daycare Monday to Friday 8-5 Sad He needs his mother still, not strangers aka nursery workers looking after him.

Wow that's very controversial ☝🏻 . But this has been my experience after spending months in nursery and now spending days with my son myself.

Time goes so fast and he does something new/funny everyday. This is really once-in-a-lifetime experience isn't it? My son will never be this small and I'm glad I'm spending my days with him whilst he's young.

He isn't too young. Just because your child couldn't cope doesn't mean OP's son won't if given time.

Lottapianos · 15/01/2024 18:16

'But OP you do not need childcare. So do not put your child through this.'

Well said. Your 2 year old absolutely doesn't need to be in nursery. Carry on with the groups as you have been

Melsmels · 15/01/2024 18:11

@alltootired
Am swaying toward this option. It really horrible to see him like this. Do you think it makes a difference being slightly older and having a more of an understanding?
As I’ve said on previous reply I don’t believe he has an understanding right now of what’s going on. I have talked about it but I don’t get much back.

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InTheRainOnATrain · 15/01/2024 18:06

Kids need time to settle at nursery, and the less frequently they go the more time it will take. I know it’s upsetting but what you’re describing, with him only having been there 3 times total and only 2 sessions on his own is very normal. It seems really pointless to have started him if you’re not willing to at least give the settling a proper go. He might not be any better if he starts at 3 either. DS has a nursery friend who was AWFUL at settling. He already had 2 friends in the class who had been at his previous setting (but it closed so needed to move), a sibling starting reception on the same site and he was awful, screaming the place down, mum had to come back early for 2 weeks even attending every day. But then something clicked and he loves it now. Some kids skip in without a second thought whatever their age. Some kids need time to settle. I wouldn’t quit without at least giving it a proper try. And I personally think nursery is great for 2YOs- it’s the age where the benefits really start in terms of socialisation and behaviour.

Melsmels · 15/01/2024 18:06

@RedRobyn2021

He’s slightly speech delayed and I don’t believe he fully understands what’s going on. The first drop off they hurried him inside and I just disappeared. Cried shortly after I was told.
He obviously remembered today and went in kicking and screaming.
I just walked off and I feel so much guilt.

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Melsmels · 15/01/2024 17:46

He does show an interest in playing with other children so I thought he’d really enjoy nursery. I stupidly didn’t do my research on separation anxiety till now. Makes sense he would have been looking for me / being in a new place may have been overwhelming. Gut tells me he’s too young and not ready but then I think now I’ve got the ball rolling I should see it out. I don’t need the childcare , it was purely
There is a play group near, similar hours though so I don’t see any difference it would make?

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RedRobyn2021 · 15/01/2024 17:04

My DD just started a nursery (she is almost 3) 2 mornings a week and she loves it. Has he just turned 2? What's his comprehension like?

With my daughter we talked a lot about what's going to happen and I'm not kidding you she was happy almost immediately, I left after 20 minutes day 1, day 2 I had to ask her for a kiss goodbye because she was running to go back in.

I know people will say it's normal and it is in our society, to leave our children upset I mean, but for me, if he doesn't have to go I certainly wouldn't be making him and i 1000% wouldn't want him crying for a long time. I wouldn't even want him going to a nursery where they would allow that without calling me immediately.

If it were me I might try a couple more sessions with me there, do some more talking with him, but if he isn't happy with you leaving I'd take him out and try again when he is a little older.

One of the reasons I started sending my DD to nursery is because she reached an age where she really wanted to play with other children, if your son at that stage?

MariaVT65 · 15/01/2024 16:57

I disagree with an above poster that nursery doesn’t benefit 2 year olds. It hugely benefited my 2 year old. He’s now doing great things at 3 like phonics and pencil grip.

I have also heard that minimal sessions on separate days means longer to settle in.

Take him out for a bit if you feel it’s the right thing to do, but also have a think about how long the wait list will be if you want to send him back again at some point, as I believe most nursery wait lists are around a year.

ShoePalaver · 15/01/2024 16:50

He's quite young. If you don't need the childcare, take him out and try again in 6 months. If you do, I'd try doing 3 mornings and make them consecutive rather than spread across the week. But it will likely take 2 weeks at least. Crying is normal but doesn't mean he won't get used to it and get to like it. Although having said that I believe most children would rather be home with mum before about 3. (No judgement as I had to send mine from age 1). Has he been left with other adults before? Leaving him with familiar adults is a good idea if you can, grandma or family friends, just for short periods, you could do that to prepare him if you're going to take him out and try again.

Melsmels · 15/01/2024 16:29

I did wonder if another morning would help. He is doing Tuesdays and Fridays.

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SpringleDingle · 15/01/2024 16:18

Mine took a few months of short settling in sessions with lots of tears before she started to enjoy it.

alltootired · 15/01/2024 16:17

Fedupandconfused0815 · 15/01/2024 15:11

kids at that age don't really benefit from nursery and most go because parents have no option because they have to work. I would take him out and try after 3 again if you don't need the place.

Edited

I agree. Its not until about 3/3,5 they really benefit - unless they can not get enough attention at home. Before then it is childcare.

alltootired · 15/01/2024 16:15

But OP you do not need childcare. So do not put your child through this.

guinnesschocolatecake · 15/01/2024 15:46

It took my 14 month old DC at the time around 6 weeks to settle (crying upon arrival and pick up). Loves going now, and when I say, 'let's go see the babies', runs to the door to get ready. I would stick it out.

Birchtree1 · 15/01/2024 15:33

My daughter started nursery at a similar age. She was very shy generally and it took her a long time to settle in. She did 2 sessions of 9 til 3 every week.
It was quite hard to drop her off and see her upset. I'd regularly stay a bit to settle her first but quickly realised it wasn't making things better. Sometimes leaving swiftly without a long goodbuy was better. It went on for a looooong time! But her nursery was lovely (and also small) and the staff really tried hard to make her feel comfortable and in the end she loved it there.
....but I also didnt have much choice as I had to go to work not long after she started and a childminder did wraparound childcare on my long days at work after the first 3 months.

Literallyoutofcontrol · 15/01/2024 15:29

I agree with you, if you wait till age 3 things are usually much easier as children understand the concept of you leaving / coming back by explanation. For younger dc they learn this though experience which for some is traumatic

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 15/01/2024 15:27

I work with this age group and its normal to be upset at the start, its heartbreaking for the parents but a lot of it isn't really upset, its just overwhelmed at the new place. We had 3 new kids last week, 1 cried the first 4 mornings then settled, another was only in for 3 mornings and he cried for 2 days, then settled on Wednesday but cried again this morning. Its really normal but usually short term. When I say they 'cried' it was on and off, especially when they are not engaged in something. They might cry during free play time, stop to do some art, cry for a minute then enjoy songs or stories, chat during snack time then have a little cry again and be happy again going to playground. Its very rare that a child would cry all morning.

Its up to you, if you are not enjoying your free time out of guilt then maybe you should take him back out. But if it were me I'd leave him for a few more weeks until he gets used to it, I think its good for them. Also when he starts full time you will have already gone through the settling in stage.

Northe · 15/01/2024 15:27

Are you paying for it? I don't think I would pay for it if it's not needed and it's making everyone sad. But, if it's funded why not try. Since he has been alone with you it's great that he is sticking with one member of staff. His attachment to you is strong and he will make another attachment with them then begin to feel confident in that setting as he does at toddler groups with you. It is great that he has a strong attachment with you and you wouldn't want it to be another way, his reaction is normal and healthy.

Sandtownnel · 15/01/2024 15:25

I think the issue is 2 days at nursery and 5 at home. It's unsettling for him, rather than nursery itself being unsettling?

MaryShelley1818 · 15/01/2024 15:23

Fedupandconfused0815 · 15/01/2024 15:11

kids at that age don't really benefit from nursery and most go because parents have no option because they have to work. I would take him out and try after 3 again if you don't need the place.

Edited

Maybe we just have an exceptionally good nursery (although I doubt this is unusual) but both my children have benefited hugely from nursery at that age.

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