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I have mental health

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Makeitmakesensetoday · 10/01/2024 11:24

Not a goady thread at all, genuinely do not understand the terminology but I see it on mumsnet and elsewhere a lot.

People say 'I have mental health' but to me this seems like an unfinished sentence.... should end with 'issues/problems/conditions' etc.

We'd never say 'I have physical health' we would say I have physical health conditions and then maybe discuss them if relevant.

Where did this phrase come from? I'm quite an open person so I'd probably say 'I have depression' but for those that just say 'I have mental health' why do you say it? It makes no sense. Health is something we all have - health problems or conditions we may not all have?!

YABU 'I have mental health' makes sense
YANBU you're right it makes no sense

OP posts:
weegiemum · 10/01/2024 14:50

I don't have mental health.

I suffer from depression with psychosis and cPTSD.

I have mental Ill health!

inappropriateraspberry · 10/01/2024 14:41

Saying you have mental health is saying you are mentally healthy, surely? If I said I have physical health, then I'm inferring I'm physically healthy. Although, everyone has 'health' but it could be great, poor, middling...

MammaTo · 10/01/2024 14:38

Yes! It drives me insane.

Customers in work say to me “I have mental health” and I think yeah okay I have mental health too, what’s the matter with your mental health?

CookStrait · 10/01/2024 14:36

YABU, almost everyone (apart from MN) say it. Some MN are nosy & want to know what MH issues people have, that’s why they say that it doesn’t make sense as it just won’t be acceptable in their nosy little world 🐱

Makeitmakesensetoday · 10/01/2024 14:26

Rnaom · 10/01/2024 14:21

It's a bit of a pointless saying because we all have mental health, whether that be good or bad, like we all have physical health, whether it's healthy or unhealthy. When people say 'I have mental health' I just think '... okay? We all do? Congrats on not having had a full frontal lobotomy I guess?'

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Youregoingthewrongway · 10/01/2024 14:23

Logically it makes no sense, but colloquially it means I have non specific mental health issues. It has just become a catch all phrase that is constantly being used whether or not any conditions have been diagnosed. Drives me mad. It’s used as an excuse for everything from bunking off school to taking drugs and worse. It diminishes those who have actual mental health issues……..but this is sadly the case for tons of things now.

Rnaom · 10/01/2024 14:21

It's a bit of a pointless saying because we all have mental health, whether that be good or bad, like we all have physical health, whether it's healthy or unhealthy. When people say 'I have mental health' I just think '... okay? We all do? Congrats on not having had a full frontal lobotomy I guess?'

HeadChog · 10/01/2024 14:18

It's not really any different to saying "I have a temperature ". It's not strictly informative but in context we all know what it means.
OTOH I frequently assume it is shorthand for feeling bad, low, sad, anxious etc. rather than having a diagnosed psychological or psychiatric disorder.

nonmerci99 · 10/01/2024 14:15

I haven’t read it but (what’s worse) I have heard it used in real life! Agree it makes no sense and IMO it makes the speaker sound a bit thick.

HideousKinky · 10/01/2024 14:14

I have noticed this too OP and it bemuses me.
People use the phrase to mean poor mental health but this makes no sense.
We all have mental health - it might be good, healthy & robust or might be problematic. For the state of one's mental health to be described, at least one more word needs to be added!

Pusheen467 · 10/01/2024 14:11

It's just people being thick, as usual.

Makeitmakesensetoday · 10/01/2024 14:08

Brandyginger · 10/01/2024 13:56

I work in the nhs and I see it in formal papers and presentations eg “patients with mental health” end of sentence. I always correct it or send it for revisions with the note that it is an unfinished sentence. I’m waging a one-woman war in my own department.

Love this!!

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IDontWantToBeInAnyGangThatYoureIn · 10/01/2024 14:06

It really annoys me! It's said on TV a lot.

QueenOfThorns · 10/01/2024 14:05

YADDDDDNBU OP! Mental health seems to be something people now suffer from, while I grit my teeth to avoid saying ‘Congratulations’!

PinkShoelacesAndAPolkaDotVest · 10/01/2024 14:05

@Makeitmakesensetoday you’re right, it means nothing to say that one has ‘mental health’ as we all have it whether good, bad of indifferent.

There is a push to talk about mental ‘fitness’ rather than mental ‘health’ in counselling circles but that would still need to be quantified as in “I have poor mental fitness/good mental fitness” so not sure it would help much.

Jumpingthruhoops · 10/01/2024 14:03

sondot · 10/01/2024 13:57

@Jumpingthruhoops

But that's just it. Anyone with a genuine mental health disorder/condition/illness will know to say it the correct way

Come on now.

People get things wrong. People don't know things. People with mental health problems do not always know the right way, in fact they may have learning disabilities too, or maybe they haven't been basic educated. Not all people with medical problems of any description know the correct terminology.

I think this thread is in bad taste, imagine sitting in your darkest place and going online to see a group of people ripping apart the fact that you done say 'problems, issues or bad' when you say mental health.

Edited

But that's like anything in life, some people don't know things. However, most of the people you will hear saying this are in the media, so presumably are fairly well educated. So there's no harm pointing out the correct way. Otherwise, how on earth do people learn anything?

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 10/01/2024 14:01

I'd guess that, yes, people are entitled to use this phrase as shorthand for 'poor mental health.'

But, equally, people are entitled to find it incredibly irritating and meaningless.

BettyBakesCakes · 10/01/2024 14:00

Oh it bugs me too. And the Ariana grande song that says 'right now I'm in a state of mind' what state of mind??!!

Loquesea · 10/01/2024 13:59

I hear this a lot, and it annoys me. Physical and mental health are either good or bad. However we do use the phrase ‘Your health is your wealth’ so I think of the word ‘health’ on its own as being good/positive.

Horrace · 10/01/2024 13:59

In days gone by we just said that a person was mental 🤣

sondot · 10/01/2024 13:57

@Jumpingthruhoops

But that's just it. Anyone with a genuine mental health disorder/condition/illness will know to say it the correct way

Come on now.

People get things wrong. People don't know things. People with mental health problems do not always know the right way, in fact they may have learning disabilities too, or maybe they haven't been basic educated. Not all people with medical problems of any description know the correct terminology.

I think this thread is in bad taste, imagine sitting in your darkest place and going online to see a group of people ripping apart the fact that you done say 'problems, issues or bad' when you say mental health.

evilharpy · 10/01/2024 13:57

Along similar lines, my mum and her friends like to claim "I have blood pressure". I always want to say good - if you had no blood pressure you probably wouldn't be feeling all that great.

annahay · 10/01/2024 13:56

I think it's just a poor grasp of the English language. I'm sure we can all think of examples we may do ourselves which don't quite make sense when you dig down into it.

Brandyginger · 10/01/2024 13:56

I work in the nhs and I see it in formal papers and presentations eg “patients with mental health” end of sentence. I always correct it or send it for revisions with the note that it is an unfinished sentence. I’m waging a one-woman war in my own department.

OriginalUsername2 · 10/01/2024 13:55

I do notice this. “I’ve got mental health” sounds positive. There needs a be a “bad” or “issues” in there somewhere.