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I have mental health

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Makeitmakesensetoday · 10/01/2024 11:24

Not a goady thread at all, genuinely do not understand the terminology but I see it on mumsnet and elsewhere a lot.

People say 'I have mental health' but to me this seems like an unfinished sentence.... should end with 'issues/problems/conditions' etc.

We'd never say 'I have physical health' we would say I have physical health conditions and then maybe discuss them if relevant.

Where did this phrase come from? I'm quite an open person so I'd probably say 'I have depression' but for those that just say 'I have mental health' why do you say it? It makes no sense. Health is something we all have - health problems or conditions we may not all have?!

YABU 'I have mental health' makes sense
YANBU you're right it makes no sense

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EverybodyLTB · 10/01/2024 18:51

I’ve heard it loads, it rings a bell from the Tyson Fury thing I saw clips of, too (not 100% sure). It’s as annoying as when people say “I’m OCD” which I’ve heard lots over the years and really grates.

saraclara · 10/01/2024 18:47

hellsBells246 · 10/01/2024 18:17

Makes no sense. But I've never seen this on MN?

People usually say 'I have poor MH' or 'I have MH problems'

Plenty do, but I think your brain has been subconsciously filling in the missing word in quite a few other posts. Because I've definitely seen it here multiple times.

Daleksatemyshed · 10/01/2024 18:35

@Makeitmakesensetoday you have read my mind- the number of times people on here say they have mental health when they mean the exact opposite. Every time I think if you have mental health that's lovely but it's never what they mean

hellsBells246 · 10/01/2024 18:17

Makes no sense. But I've never seen this on MN?

People usually say 'I have poor MH' or 'I have MH problems'

Makeitmakesensetoday · 10/01/2024 16:52

Isittimeformynapyet · 10/01/2024 16:50

I agree with you OP.

But I'm equally irritated by the prevalence of people ending statements with question marks these days.

"But it doesn't make any sense?"

I hope this was a typo!

Haha you got me!

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Isittimeformynapyet · 10/01/2024 16:50

Makeitmakesensetoday · 10/01/2024 14:50

But it doesn't make any sense?

I agree with you OP.

But I'm equally irritated by the prevalence of people ending statements with question marks these days.

"But it doesn't make any sense?"

I hope this was a typo!

SoundTheSirens · 10/01/2024 16:31

I think some people now use "mental health" as a synonym for "stress" or "anxiety", in the way we use "a temperature" to mean "a fever". In that context "my mental health was through the roof" would make perfect sense to the writer as they mean it in an "I was stressed to the eyeballs" way.

5128gap · 10/01/2024 15:55

People say it a lot. On a recent thread someone said it about themselves while (somewhat ironically) complaining that the self description of being 'registered' disabled was 'meaningless'. It doesn't bother me. I know what they mean and that's the important part of communication surely?

saraclara · 10/01/2024 15:52

EdinGirl · 10/01/2024 11:51

I've never seen or heard this either 🤔

I read a post yesterday or the day before that used it (but used 'I have MH' rather than the full words. But I'm not going to search it and link it because that would be an awful thing to do to the person who posted it.

saraclara · 10/01/2024 15:47

YouJustDoYou · 10/01/2024 11:28

I've never once heard or seen that either, apart from this post.

I've heard it in real life and read it on here multiple times. I always itch to say "do you mean 'poor mental health'? But of course I don't, because it would be a shitty thing to do to someone who's struggling.

But yes, it's one of those things that irritates, along with people calling every school holiday 'half term'.

Gnomegnomegnome · 10/01/2024 15:43

I work in Mental Health and have never heard anyone say this.

I’ve heard ‘poor mental health’, ‘mental ill health’, ‘good mental health’ etc.

Waitingfordoggo · 10/01/2024 15:40

UnbeatenMum · 10/01/2024 13:21

I think you're right but I've only ever heard this from people with poor literacy or learning difficulties so I think it's worth being understanding on the internet when you don't know a person's background.

I agree. I usually see it on social media and tend to assume that the writer is not particularly articulate.

Showmethemoneyyy · 10/01/2024 15:39

This drives me mad too.

NaughtybutNice77 · 10/01/2024 15:38

Totally agree. It doesnt make sense. I have mental ill health, I'm mentally unwell, or I have mental health issues seems appropriate to me however if I hear someone ranting 'It's my mental health' it's pretty obvious what they mean and I'd not bother correcting them. I might though intervene in a calm conversation where someone says 'I've got mental health'...maybe say "oh that's good, lm glad you're feeling well.....oh you mean mental ILL heath! Oh sorry to hear that "

Waitingfordoggo · 10/01/2024 15:38

amicissimma · 10/01/2024 11:49

I've also seen 'my mental health was through the roof'.

I’ve not seen that one yet thankfully. ‘Through the floor’ would be a reasonable metaphor!

JaneyGee · 10/01/2024 15:33

If you've got mental health then you're lucky. It's the people who have a mental illness that I feel sorry for!

MissTheCity · 10/01/2024 15:23

I worked in an allied field 15 years ago, and used to fulminate about it to friends.

Maverickess · 10/01/2024 15:21

I mean you're right, it doesn't make any sense, but then most posters seem to know what it means when said in context.
People have the right to be annoyed by it, but in all honesty when I was in the middle of poor mental health a few times in my teens and twenties and struggling to do anything, feeling worthless, truly in my own head and backed up by other people's obvious annoyance at my existence (how I saw it then anyway) reading something like this about the phrasing of my mental state at the time would have just completely confirmed what a complete waste of space I was and would be yet another way I annoyed people and how I couldn't even get reaching out for help right because I said it wrong and quite frankly deserve to be the butt of everyone's jokes and ridicule.

I mean now in a better place, I have to ask - what exactly is the impact of reading or hearing that, especially when as this thread shows, it's generally understood what the person saying it means? The person may be reaching out, admitting there's a problem yet they deserve derision and ridicule because they said it the wrong way.
Haven't really come as far as we'd like to tell ourselves where dealing with any type of mental health is concerned as society I don't think.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 10/01/2024 15:19

Some MN are nosy & want to know what MH issues people have, that’s why they say that it doesn’t make sense as it just won’t be acceptable in their nosy little world

Nonsense. It's because it doesn't make sense. People are saying it should be 'I have bad MH' or 'I have MH problems'. They aren't saying everyone should state 'I have depression' etc.

Anyway, no it doesn't properly make sense, but it would be very disingenuous to claim you don't understand what they mean.

ManchesterLu · 10/01/2024 15:17

Woahtherehoney · 10/01/2024 11:27

Yes! I’ve not seen it on mumsnet but have heard it in real life/on tv.

We all have mental health but not all of our mental health is impacted so you need to actually give some context. “I suffer with my mental health” makes sense - but not just “I have mental health”

Actually, your mental health IS impacted. By every single little thing you do. Mental health 'issues' occur when the impacts are no longer manageable or bearable.

Mental health is a spectrum.

museumum · 10/01/2024 15:15

amicissimma · 10/01/2024 11:49

I've also seen 'my mental health was through the roof'.

Genuinely don’t know if this is good or bad. It sounds good - really high mental health. But nobody would say that would they? I guess they mean really poor mental health?

SouthEastCoast · 10/01/2024 15:14

Annoys me no end . I want to scream yes we all have mental health doh

Oneofthesurvivors · 10/01/2024 15:12

Everyone knows what it means though.

tralalalalalalalal · 10/01/2024 14:55

Yep- drives me mental. It would really mean your mental state was healthy surely. I.E I have physical health= I am healthy. I have physical health problems= there are problems with my physical health

Makeitmakesensetoday · 10/01/2024 14:50

CookStrait · 10/01/2024 14:36

YABU, almost everyone (apart from MN) say it. Some MN are nosy & want to know what MH issues people have, that’s why they say that it doesn’t make sense as it just won’t be acceptable in their nosy little world 🐱

But it doesn't make any sense?

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