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To think there are a lot of nasty people on Mumsnet?

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Poile · 09/01/2024 14:31

Just that.

Have seen so many directly aggressive and passively aggressive comments on here that it makes me think that many mumsnetters are just plain nasty. Assuming to due to unhappiness with own life.

Some examples stick out - when people ask to guess their age some of the guesses are just rude and over the top inaccurate. One poster even questioned a person’s gender even stating they had thick eyebrows which were not groomed due to depression. The disingenuous of “please don’t think I’m being rude but …”.

Also saw someone ask for help with their curtains and the amount of snide remarks was shocking.

I also think a lot of people in here think their way is best and the only way. Insufferable.

To me the people who will kick a person when they are down just seems disproportionately high. Obviously the fact it’s an anonymous forum adds to this.

OP posts:
Bobbotgegrinch · 09/01/2024 16:14

Poile · 09/01/2024 14:54

I’m just hoping to understand. I’m on many Reddit threads and don’t witness it there

Its there on reddit but in most of the more civilised subs it gets downvoted to oblivion so you never see it.

auntyElle · 09/01/2024 16:13

Woodenwonder · 09/01/2024 16:08

There's a lot of pomposity.

And a lot of people who like to go on and on about how they couldn't possibly work as they have attention deficit issues or similar and can't do tasks for long periods of time, or fybromyalgia so their hands dont work ergo they couldn't even work online... but have no problem interacting for 9 hours a day to go back and forth commenting and rebutting and aggressively argueing on posts on MN about it. Those people tend to get nasty with opposing points of view.

The people with too much time on their hands who are constantly on here tend to be the ones who are particularly unpleasant.

Those of us (probably the majority) who dip in and out can take it or leave it and any arseiness is either just funny, or it's water off a ducks back.

There's nothing funny or water off a duck's back about this post. A lot of ill-informed sneering though.

AInightingale · 09/01/2024 16:13

There were a lot of snarks on that recent thread from a woman whose children got Babybel wax on their grandmother's white sofa, along the lines of 'why can't you control your children when they're eating, it's all your fault' etc etc. Yes it's depressing and nasty at times.

CatMadam · 09/01/2024 16:12

Oh absolutely, there’s a very specific brand of arsehole you often see on mumsnet that I’ve not really encountered outside of the site. Sometimes you can just tell that they think they’re being so hilarious and clever while sticking the boot into whichever poster they’ve taken against, and it’s just really gross and embarrassing to witness. Behaviour more suited to a site aimed at teenagers rather than grown women imo, but here we are!

ArabellaScott · 09/01/2024 16:12

I mean, there are no rape-focussed boards/threads on here that I'm aware of. Reddit, however ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/EndAbuseOfWomenOnline/comments/15v9tri/misogynistic_subreddits/

AnObserverInThisDarkWorld · 09/01/2024 16:11

As someone who has stopped posting very often now due to being called a man just for disagreeing with the idea women are infallible and for being pro-trans rights but who is most definitely female... MN is crazy

I still lurk and read threads and some of the posts that get "called out" for being mean just really mean that the replies aren't agreeing with the OP and are pointing out they're BU.

And it always amuses me when anyone says "I'm always online and this place is the worst". No, its really not. I'd suggest looking at Tumblr for worse but the demographic over there is almost the exact opposite of MN so...

Silvers11 · 09/01/2024 16:11

Uricon2 · 09/01/2024 14:47

The "how old do I look?" threads are ridiculous and I have no idea what the OPs are hoping for, but they need to take some responsibility for being so daft as to do this. I don't comment on them (as far as I remember) but it is the Internet equivalent of putting yourself in the stocks.

Edited

I'm going to stop posting on those ones. I answered one genuinely recently and was mortified to discover that she was around 20 years younger than I guessed. It was a genuine comment and I based my reply on the way my 50 year old daughter looks. My daughter has been ID'd in a Supermarket when she was in her early 40's and she does look young for her age! So I based my comments on the lines around the posters eyes. Really felt sorry for saying anything! Never again

lockbox · 09/01/2024 16:11

Yes this forum has lots of unpleasant people just waiting to post nasty, cruel responses and take every opportunity to try and shame the poster and take things the wrong way deliberately to start pile on. Its pretty disgusting.

I sometimes wonder if any of these people are similar in real life of if they just use the online space to vent all their nastiness? I pity them really, they must be miserable sorts.

McMuffins · 09/01/2024 16:09

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 09/01/2024 16:01

One of the most batshit things I have ever read on here.

How so? A lot of the nasty ‘regulars’ on here are logged on round the clock - always within the first handful of posts on any given thread. It’s not far-fetched to assume they probably don’t have much going on in real life.

ArabellaScott · 09/01/2024 16:09

Poile · 09/01/2024 14:54

I’m just hoping to understand. I’m on many Reddit threads and don’t witness it there

You're suggesting that Reddit is nicer than Mumsnet? Honestly, seriously?

Woodenwonder · 09/01/2024 16:08

There's a lot of pomposity.

And a lot of people who like to go on and on about how they couldn't possibly work as they have attention deficit issues or similar and can't do tasks for long periods of time, or fybromyalgia so their hands dont work ergo they couldn't even work online... but have no problem interacting for 9 hours a day to go back and forth commenting and rebutting and aggressively argueing on posts on MN about it. Those people tend to get nasty with opposing points of view.

The people with too much time on their hands who are constantly on here tend to be the ones who are particularly unpleasant.

Those of us (probably the majority) who dip in and out can take it or leave it and any arseiness is either just funny, or it's water off a ducks back.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 09/01/2024 16:07

Poile · 09/01/2024 14:54

I’m just hoping to understand. I’m on many Reddit threads and don’t witness it there

I certainly have. They can be vicious on Reddit.

gothicomedy · 09/01/2024 16:06

Atethehalloweenchocs · 09/01/2024 15:48

Not sure how to vote on this as I have had both experiences. There are a lot of people on here whose sole aim is to be nasty to others, I believe. And others who have an aspect of their life which matches what is being written about - ie, an estranged child and the OP is posting about their child cutting them off. In those cases a lot of people get over the top nasty because anything not aligning with their view is taken as an attack. Or people who exhibit the kind of bad behaviour being posted about, ditto. I posted years ago when a parent died and several of my siblings were estranged from them, and I was not sure what to do about letting them know. Some of the posts were directly attacking when I was recently bereaved and it was truly shocking. But there were also a lot of really lovely people here who have offered good support and a non judgemental listening ear. So no, I dont think everyone is nasty. Which I was grateful for.

This is so true. I remember posting on gransnet about concerns I had re nursing staff when my mother was seriously, seriously ill. One poster, whose daughter was a nurse, took it as a personal affront and was really nasty, despite the fact that I was upset and climbing the walls with anxiety. Thankfully another poster was absolutely lovely. But I couldn't bear to even see the name of the other poster coming up on a thread after that.

Tittyfilarious81 · 09/01/2024 16:05

I think it's a bit of taking the rough with the smooth , mumsnet can be amazing for support and advice and some threads are really funny but there are threads where posters are awful I just stay away from a thread that goes that way . For example if there is the regular sahm bunfight thread I can guarantee that I'll see certain usernames come up quickly with the claws out just waiting to be as awful as possible

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 09/01/2024 16:01

Emmainexile · 09/01/2024 14:39

It’s to be expected though, happens on all internet forums to a degree

Think of the type of people who use online forums, most will be unable to make meaningful friendships irl so rely on online forums for socialisation or support. If they struggle irl they’re usually not going to be that great a person.

I’ve lost count of the number of posters who complain about having no friends, struggling to make friends or not being able to understand how people have friends in general.

One of the most batshit things I have ever read on here.

adriftinadenofvipers · 09/01/2024 15:57

I have no idea why on earth anyone would ever put themselves in such a vulnerable position on a huge anonymous forum? You might as well put a pic of yourself up and caption it, "kick the shit out of me here"!!!

WhateverMate · 09/01/2024 15:57

It's due to being allowed to name change, OP.

As you've clearly demonstrated, people can change from one name to another to post whatever they like as long as it's within talk guidelines.

If this wasn't allowed, many people would think twice about being a dick because then no-one would bother with them.

You've chosen to name change for this thread and if you hadn't, perhaps some people might point out that you've been guilty in the past of doing what you're complaining about now, or perhaps they might not be able to, but we'll never know 🤷‍♂️

The thing is, without the name change function, no-one would post about personal problems.

But like yourself, people use it to change name for other reasons too.

NonPlayerCharacter · 09/01/2024 15:56

I always worry that the "guess my age" threads aren't genuine and the images are stolen. I don't think anyone shows their face on WAYWT threads.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 09/01/2024 15:54

when people ask to guess their age

  1. What kind of person asks strangers for that kind of ego stroke? Or friends, for that matter? Other people are not supporting characters in the playscript of your life with a sole purpose of making you feel good.
  2. If you value yourself by how other people perceive your physical appearance, you are going to be hurt as you get older.
  3. If you fish for compliments, expect to hook some insults.
JaffaCake24 · 09/01/2024 15:52

The reason it happens here is because it's completely anonymous. There's no come back so people can be as shitty as they like. Reddit feels less anonymous and it's more of an open book. Here the demographic is all the same kind of person so you feel even more judged.

SerafinasGoose · 09/01/2024 15:52

Doodleflips · 09/01/2024 15:38

There’s simpering and ‘being kind’, and there’s being gentle with others and not deliberately being an arsehole.
its a middle ground.

Arseholery is sometimes under good regulation. It can be very useful, say, if someone is claiming the mantle of an expert in order to give a ring of authority to erroneous, faulty, or downright unsafe advice. And yes, I've been THAT poster: the one like a dog with a bone who has tenaciously refused to back off in that specific context. They might shout 'bully!', as people often do when they want to close someone down whilst putting themselves automatically in the right. No matter, if that OP is more likely to be safe.

The endless grammar pedants are infuriating, I do agree. They don't make themselves look intelligent, which I'm sure is the desired effect. They just appear as what they are: small-minded, ill-mannered and petty. We are not marking essays here. Edexcel are crying out for examiners: fuck off and get a job with them whydontya.

There are times to be rude, and times to be polite. Yes, some people are afflicted with constant arseholery, in which case they're pretty unimaginative and tedious. But overall I enjoy Mumsnet. It has its (admittedly now rarer) laugh out loud moments, and can be a bastion of common sense, support and kindness to women escaping from abusers, or coming to terms with a history of the same, or struggling with parenting issues. There are a lot of wise posters here whose contributions I enjoy. Others, not so much.

Such is the way of the world.

BluJanuary · 09/01/2024 15:52

I don't think it's any worse here than it is 'in real life' - except people aren't brave enough to be nasty to people's faces. There are a lot of backstabbers.

JaffaCake24 · 09/01/2024 15:51

Someone threatened to take their own life yesterday on MN and the thread had to be shut. She had a lot of criticism over the fact she couldn't tidy up easily.

We are all vulnerable at times. You never know what someone is going through.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 09/01/2024 15:48

Not sure how to vote on this as I have had both experiences. There are a lot of people on here whose sole aim is to be nasty to others, I believe. And others who have an aspect of their life which matches what is being written about - ie, an estranged child and the OP is posting about their child cutting them off. In those cases a lot of people get over the top nasty because anything not aligning with their view is taken as an attack. Or people who exhibit the kind of bad behaviour being posted about, ditto. I posted years ago when a parent died and several of my siblings were estranged from them, and I was not sure what to do about letting them know. Some of the posts were directly attacking when I was recently bereaved and it was truly shocking. But there were also a lot of really lovely people here who have offered good support and a non judgemental listening ear. So no, I dont think everyone is nasty. Which I was grateful for.

moomoomoo27 · 09/01/2024 15:40

It depends.

Sometimes people need a dose of reality.

Sometimes people are posting for inflated ego reasons.

Some replies are downright nasty though.

If you're on here for people to tell you they agree with you and you're so lovely and the best person ever and everyone in your life is a mean bully, it's probably not the place for you. Because there are always two sides.