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To think there are a lot of nasty people on Mumsnet?

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Poile · 09/01/2024 14:31

Just that.

Have seen so many directly aggressive and passively aggressive comments on here that it makes me think that many mumsnetters are just plain nasty. Assuming to due to unhappiness with own life.

Some examples stick out - when people ask to guess their age some of the guesses are just rude and over the top inaccurate. One poster even questioned a person’s gender even stating they had thick eyebrows which were not groomed due to depression. The disingenuous of “please don’t think I’m being rude but …”.

Also saw someone ask for help with their curtains and the amount of snide remarks was shocking.

I also think a lot of people in here think their way is best and the only way. Insufferable.

To me the people who will kick a person when they are down just seems disproportionately high. Obviously the fact it’s an anonymous forum adds to this.

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Anonymouseposter · 09/01/2024 17:00

I wouldn't post on here looking for sensible advice about a problem situation. Some posters would try to be helpful but, from what I have seen, a high proportion just want to up the drama and some, particularly when giving relationship advice ,project massively and make assumptions.
Also, there are unpopular categories of people on here i.e. step mothers, MILs, most men, boomers etc. who are always in the wrong.
Some posters seem to think they are being witty or feminist but they are actually being nasty. Also the PA " What did the police say when you phoned them?" etc.
I must admit I mainly come on MN if I'm a bit bored. The threads on SEN, elderly parents etc. are much more useful than AIBU and relationships. There used to be one poster on relationships who seemed to think she had the solution to every dilemna in the world. She had a following and they were very scathing to anyone who questioned her. Not what you need when you're upset.

itsmylife7 · 09/01/2024 16:55

I think it's REALLY unnecessary to point out spelling mistakes.

If other people's grammar upsets you that much.... you've got a big problem.

MN isn't a work place so no need to be awful about people's spelling.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 09/01/2024 16:55

lemonjuicer · 09/01/2024 16:35

I name change fairly regularly now as someone followed me to different threads taking the piss out of everything I said after I asked a very normal question on one thread and got ridiculed.

Some of the comments make me wince. It follows the same patterns as well, you don’t have to read an entire OP to know what the nasty comments will be like.

I've had that happen to me. Nothing was done about it. I advised against a baby name (very politely) as the nickname for that name would be awful to saddle a kid with and he could be bullied.

Exasperatednow · 09/01/2024 16:55

gluggle · 09/01/2024 16:46

The guess my age posters are insufferable and deserve a dose of reality. The so called unkind guesses are usually far more realistic as to how old they actually look

What would be the dose of reality that you think you deserve?

afrogirl9 · 09/01/2024 16:52

SouthLondonMum22 · 09/01/2024 16:44

I agree. Of course having children is selfish.

Having children is a biological imperative. The reason we have an inbuilt impulse to reproduce is for the survival of our species. Of course, these impulses have been woven into us over millenia, and so the way nature gets us to do something so breathtakingly UNSELFISH as reproduce is by giving us maternal longings. So yes, you could say it's selfish because it's done in response to a hormonal impulse. But that's a very superficial way of assessing actions. The reason for that impulse is the exact opposite of selfishness. Having children is remarkably difficult, painful and sacrificial. It's a long long road of sleepless nights, putting your needs last all the time, even accepting that for a number of years your child mught despise you and show no appreciation for your sacrifices. But our hormones compel us to do it because, if not, the human species would die out.

NonPlayerCharacter · 09/01/2024 16:49

afrogirl9 · 09/01/2024 16:44

I'm not talking about abusive situations. But no one would be asking for relationship advice in the first place if their relationship was perfectly happy and healthy. And yet, in the real world, it is absolutely possible to fix an unhappy relationship, thank goodness. No marriage is 100% happy all the time. I honestly think it's just symptomatic of a society that wants instant gratification - if anything requires work, external input, counselling, communication, then it's not worth it. Just give up and be happy. How much easier it is to give that kind of recommendation than actually provide thoughtful, nuanced advice on how to mend a relationship.

I don't know...I kind of feel that anyone who could be led by MN doesn't really want to save it anyway. Divorce/splitting is very rarely the easy, instant gratification option.

PieAndLattes · 09/01/2024 16:47

This is a very passive aggressive thread.

gluggle · 09/01/2024 16:46

The guess my age posters are insufferable and deserve a dose of reality. The so called unkind guesses are usually far more realistic as to how old they actually look

afrogirl9 · 09/01/2024 16:44

NonPlayerCharacter · 09/01/2024 16:24

I don't find the stuff that comes up on Relationships is little. When something seems inconsequential, there's almost always a back story that eventually comes out that shows just how much abuse and fuckery the OP has normalised.

The LTB crew doesn't bother me. Most women don't leave abusive relationships and those that do generally need several attempts. I'm honestly not worried about a mass exodus of women from healthy, happy relationships because of MN. I really don't think it's happening. For all my criticism of the place, a lot of posters have said it was supportive and helpful in leaving an abusive or terrible relationship, and I can't recall anyone who blamed it for leaving their wonderful, loving partner.

I'm not talking about abusive situations. But no one would be asking for relationship advice in the first place if their relationship was perfectly happy and healthy. And yet, in the real world, it is absolutely possible to fix an unhappy relationship, thank goodness. No marriage is 100% happy all the time. I honestly think it's just symptomatic of a society that wants instant gratification - if anything requires work, external input, counselling, communication, then it's not worth it. Just give up and be happy. How much easier it is to give that kind of recommendation than actually provide thoughtful, nuanced advice on how to mend a relationship.

SouthLondonMum22 · 09/01/2024 16:44

OutsideLookingOut · 09/01/2024 16:43

I think having children is selfish for many people as it should be. You should havce children because you want them. We are humans and we do selfish things. Why is this abhorrent?

I agree. Of course having children is selfish.

IncompleteSenten · 09/01/2024 16:44

auntyElle · 09/01/2024 15:35

You don't think 'perverts' and MRAs can be spiteful?

Have you seen men respond to an online rejection? "You're a fucking ugly bitch anyway" etc etc but angrier.

That's not what I said. By removing the word "randomly" from my post you have changed what I was saying.

Which is that what they are doing is worse than popping on a thread to be randomly spiteful.

Women say unkind things online.

Men issue threats and send dick pics.

I've never had a woman pm me with a picture of her fanny or threaten to find me and rape me.

ghostyslovesheets · 09/01/2024 16:43

A lot of the time, those using these accusations are just offended by responses they've got to their post

and often the most aggressive in responses to their posts

OutsideLookingOut · 09/01/2024 16:43

afrogirl9 · 09/01/2024 16:17

I also find that so often the majority of commenters have really abhorrent views. E.g. Having children is selfish, let alone having any more than 2.
The relationship advice on here is also the worst I've ever seen. I don't understand how any of the LTB crew manage to stay married if every little marital issue is grounds for divorce.

I think having children is selfish for many people as it should be. You should havce children because you want them. We are humans and we do selfish things. Why is this abhorrent?

Redburnett · 09/01/2024 16:42

I sometimes post suggestions/advice or opinions that are different from the majority, so 'unpopular'. I am often surprised by other posters' reactions to these when they disagree. I simply say what I think about the particular OP's situation or question. The original poster or other posters are not obliged to agree with it or take any notice of it at all. The vehemence with which some people react to opinions they do not agree with is absurd at times. Some people seem unable to accept that there may be different opinions about a situation, and seem to want to 'prove' that only their view is correct, which seems unreasonable to me. I am not bothered by people disagreeing with me, but I am bothered that they think I am not entitled to have a different opinion to their own. The funniest example of this was on a thread where a relative gave a gift of home made jam and wanted the jar back. The OP thought the request unreasonable. I commented that new jars are expensive (I know because of making home made jam) so the relative's request was not unreasonable. Most people thought the relative unreasonable, fair enough, but the reaction to my alternative view was hilarious - and it just over a jam jar.

BIWI · 09/01/2024 16:40

There are more than 30,000 posts every day on Mumsnet. Stands to reason that a proportion of those will be unpleasant.

However - disagreeing with a poster, or being direct in a response, really doesn't equate to nastiness or bullying. A lot of the time, those using these accusations are just offended by responses they've got to their post.

nitocogin · 09/01/2024 16:38

IncompleteSenten · 09/01/2024 15:03

The men that come here not in good faith tend to be perverts or mra with an agenda rather than here to be randomly spiteful.

They mostly hang out in relationships from what I've seen, and apparently the hidden sex topic.

nitocogin · 09/01/2024 16:36

I've had some great support and replies to threads I've posted in the past, from grammatical disagreements to health concerns.

There's always trolls and troublemakers. If you see the same names jumping on people, or derailing threads, then report them. I've done this before.

lemonjuicer · 09/01/2024 16:35

I name change fairly regularly now as someone followed me to different threads taking the piss out of everything I said after I asked a very normal question on one thread and got ridiculed.

Some of the comments make me wince. It follows the same patterns as well, you don’t have to read an entire OP to know what the nasty comments will be like.

Woodenwonder · 09/01/2024 16:35

StephanieSuperpowers · 09/01/2024 16:34

I don't know if I agree that there is a lot of nastiness here - I think there's a certain amount of bluntness that wouldn't fly in real life, but that's not something I think is really wrong. Sometimes we all need to hear it without any sugarcoating. Nobody is compelled to put anything about any aspect of their personal or private life online and if you choose to, the response won't always be nice.

Absolutely.

StephanieSuperpowers · 09/01/2024 16:34

I don't know if I agree that there is a lot of nastiness here - I think there's a certain amount of bluntness that wouldn't fly in real life, but that's not something I think is really wrong. Sometimes we all need to hear it without any sugarcoating. Nobody is compelled to put anything about any aspect of their personal or private life online and if you choose to, the response won't always be nice.

Woodenwonder · 09/01/2024 16:34

Around 20 years ago, myself and few other MNr's met up as complete strangers for a night out - we came from all over the country and it was great. It was a much nicer place back then. Sure you still had some who were particularly odious and condescending even back then and they always had a little team of hangers on but they appear to have largely moved on.

jacks90 · 09/01/2024 16:32

afrogirl9 · 09/01/2024 16:17

I also find that so often the majority of commenters have really abhorrent views. E.g. Having children is selfish, let alone having any more than 2.
The relationship advice on here is also the worst I've ever seen. I don't understand how any of the LTB crew manage to stay married if every little marital issue is grounds for divorce.

People are entitled to their opinion as long as it's not breaking talk guidelines (aka being abusive, which is the focus of this thread). Not sure why these views are "abhorrent" just because you don't agree with them.

ghostyslovesheets · 09/01/2024 16:30

A haven for women aged 40-60 😂😂😂

yeah that’ll explain the very active TTC boards, new baby boards and people posting about breast feeding and sleep routines!

also obviously explains all the ageism

Poile · 09/01/2024 16:29

My examples aren’t great. To be honest I lurk most of the time.

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RethinkingLife · 09/01/2024 16:29

I think nastiness stays in the memory more than the helpful and compassionate responses.

I've rarely, if ever, seen unpleasantness on a handhold thread.

The Elderly Parents, SEN, and various health fora are remarkably useful and practical when people need support.

There are some very polarised areas (AIBU and the ones involving animals).

MN is largely where you go, what catches your attention, with occasional squalls and outbreaks in particular areas.

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