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To think my DH is being a big girls blouse about the the washing?

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KarenNotAKaren · 05/01/2024 00:15

For years my DH Has allegedly been sensitive to wet washing - it makes him sneeze, wheeze and gives him itchy eyes. Apparently. He’s getting worse - when I simply take the washing out the machine he says within 30 seconds “Have you taken the washing out? It’s getting to my eyes already!” 🙄

I actually did an experiment in our last house. We had a kitchen living room open plan thing and when he was watching TV I very quietly unloaded the washing machine (he couldn’t see, TV was on loud too so couldn’t hear either) and left it all by the machine, and left the room. Came back 20 minutes later and he didn’t complain one bit or even clock on that he was in the same room as a pile of wet washing.

He won’t line dry his things because it makes his eyes itchy (🤷‍♀️). I can’t even have a sock drying on the radiator because it makes him sneeze apparently. I’d LOVE a heated airer as we spend an absolute fortune on tumble drying, but he’d make a right song and dance no doubt. Tumble drying is the only way he will dry his clothes. Even if I line dry mine he gets all dramatic if I come too close - “Oh god has that top been line dried - my eyes are itchy!”.

Weve just moved into a new home that has an integral washer/dryer. Well it doesn’t actually fucking dry anything? The ‘dryer’ part is a massive lie, so he wants to buy a separate washing machine AND dryer because apparently “I can’t live in a house with a condenser dryer it get to my eyes nose and lungs”. I sneered at him and he got really annoyed. I’d rather just stick with what we have and line dry things or get a heated airer.

I know I sound unsympathetic but I think he’s being so dramatic - I’ve asked his mum and he didn’t grow up with a tumble dryer, everything was dried on heaters and the washing line. He somehow survived childhood unscathed and his mum said he never had any issues. Yet as an adult all this OTT sneezing and “oh god it’s getting to my lungs that is” is going on - I just think he is being an attention seeker. No asthma. No respiratory issues.

Am I a horrible cow who needs to understand his sensitivities better? Do other people suffer like this just from being in the same room as a freshly washed sock? I’ve never heard of a single person who can’t be around wet washing. Or is he being the drama llama I think he is?

OP posts:
Thementalloadisreal · 05/01/2024 14:41

Could be that the “damp” aroma sets off some kind of traumatic memory

SauronsArsehole · 05/01/2024 12:54

Skye99 · 05/01/2024 10:15

OP, have you checked the washing machine for mould?

I had a problem with mould round the door seal, and my washing machine engineer told me that some liquid detergents cause that.

I think tumble drying would probably kill at least some of the mould, so that wet washing hanging up would give off more mould spores than tumble dried washing.

Have you tried unscented detergents like this range?
https://www.ecoverdirect.com/departments/zero.aspx?deptid=ZERO&gad_source=1

I realise you did an experiment with leaving wet washing in the room with him when he was watching TV, but could he have been distracted by a particularly exciting programme at that time?? One trial is not really enough.

If there is no problem with mould or perfume, it could be psychological and then it would be worth looking at treatment.

A boil wash, even a 60c wash, would kill that in the machine instantly. Not remove the black staining but kill the mould spores themselves.

as a mould allergy sufferer. Wet washing straight from the machine within a few hours of the programme finishing would not be producing spores - they would be soaking wet and not mobile - and certainly and the washing doesn’t flare up my allergy. (Runny nose and irritable cough)

Washing left damp for a week would smell musty and mouldy and potentially produce spores. Damp on windows and walls that’s persistent would cause mould.

because the op is tumble drying it’s highly unlikely to be a mould issue as she’s not leaving damp washing to dry increasing the humidity.

if it was a mould allergy (which we’ve established isn’t likely) a dehumidifier would be needed as well to bring down the relative humidity and prevent mould. And the reaction would be persistent not just when washing is taken out the machine.

he could be reacting to Humidity from the washing but this too is unlikely. If the Humidty is 70% in my house (70 yrs old, damp and ventilation is an issue) i find it hard to breathe. Pulling washing from a machine isn’t going to make Humidity jump to 70% and dissipate rapidly as soon as the dryer is on.

its not detergents used, tumble dryers don’t remove residual detergent. Repeated rinsing and changing detergents would reduce reactions.

I’m actually inclined to say he’s allergic to his own bullshit. And housework. But that’s just me

FayCarew · 05/01/2024 12:50

@WowzersSchnauzers , there does not need to be an intention to offend for something to be offensive.

WowzersSchnauzers · 05/01/2024 12:33

FayCarew · 05/01/2024 11:59

@WowzersSchnauzers , it's sexist and pokes fun at larger people.

And? So what?

The society we live in is full of real wimps. You do know that you can look at things a different way yes? Actually find the humour in old sayings - or just ignore them

So many expression that people can take offence to - (Best close your eyes now or you may well freak out) Can you imagine if men took offence as easily?

Straw man - WHAT??? HOW DARE PEOPLE SAY MEN ARE MADE OF STRAW
Hitman - - WHAT? ARE THERE NO WOMEN IN CRIME?
Confidence man - HOW RUDE, ARE WOMEN PERFECT THEN??

etc etc

So boring to keep taking offence when none is meant.

TeaGinandFags · 05/01/2024 12:03

IfTheresTeaTheresHope · 05/01/2024 06:35

Has he never done laundry? Did he go from living with his parents to living with you? How was it managed before you were in his life?

I would like to postulate the hypothesis that he took it to his mum.

A while back I worked shifts and threw a tantrum upon finding out that my.mum did my brothers laundry because 'it was hard for him not having a wife to go it.' I immediately reminded her that I neithet had a wife so she got my loads as well. Then my brother plumbed in the machine he'd had languishing in the kitchen for the past 5 yrs.

I am so coming back as a man.

FayCarew · 05/01/2024 11:59

@WowzersSchnauzers , it's sexist and pokes fun at larger people.

TempleOfBloom · 05/01/2024 11:57

The weird thing is - he’s ex-Army. So the rain question is an interesting one - he used to literally sleep in puddles when on exercise, he’s braved the most dangerous terrorists in the world and he’s lived for weeks in inhumane conditions.

Honestly, I think this is key. Tiny example: I once had a job that entailed testing that electric fences were working round miles and miles of land. Literally hold a hollow stalk against it, wait for the shock, which come in pulses, to see if it was working. It was a reduced shock because of the stalk, but still a jolt. The waiting for a second or two, not knowing when or if it was working or when exactly the pulse would come became nerve wracking. Instead of becoming relaxed and casual about minor electric shocks because we were used to it, we became hyper sensitive. It got worse and worse through the day. I still physically shudder when I se even a wire fence, 20 years later.

Is he traumatised and has he unconsciously fixed it on washing?

We expect forces and ex forces folk be strong, manly etc, but it’s often unfair and unrealistic.

Before you blame and ridicule him further I Think is worth a thought.

WowzersSchnauzers · 05/01/2024 11:44

FayCarew · 05/01/2024 11:24

YABU - big girls blouse. Shame on you for using such an offensive expression.

Offensive to who? Women who look to be offended/ triggered 😂by it?

Grow up

FreebieWallopFridge · 05/01/2024 11:42

You don’t need different detergent or anything else. You need a husband who isn’t being a knob.

GoingDownLikeBHS · 05/01/2024 11:37

I've only read OP posts and there are only 2 so sorry if someone has already suggested this - get him to ring Allergy UK helpline (great charity), put it on speakerphone, you can speak to a nurse or clinical staff and they will tell you if this is even possible because it sounds like it simply can't be a "thing": https://www.allergyuk.org/our-services/helpline/

Helpline

Our Helpline Advisors deal with thousands of calls from people living with allergies

https://www.allergyuk.org/our-services/helpline/

Thementalloadisreal · 05/01/2024 11:28

Ps. I am usually a feminist “snowflake” about things and very pro-calling out sexist bullshit, so I am genuinely fascinated and interested to learn that people think big girls blouse is an insult to females.
So thanks OP for the post, and sorry your husband is averse to the wet washing.

It doesn’t make any sense to prefer the drier - logically, surely the fresh air of a line dry gets rid of the detergent smell/ remains, whereas the tumble drier just sort of concentrates it in a hot box.

AutumnFroglets · 05/01/2024 11:26

@MoonWoman69 - I'm not saying they aren't raging feminists too but being "woke/pc" or having the old fashioned ignorance (ie not understanding/no knowledge as opposed to being stupid) is not the same thing. It's amazing how much stuff can get lost in translation over the course of a generation or two.

FayCarew · 05/01/2024 11:24

YABU - big girls blouse. Shame on you for using such an offensive expression.

Thementalloadisreal · 05/01/2024 11:24

To be fair @MoonWoman69 most insults are degenerating to women in some way, so it’s not a huge leap, just an issue of how people differently interpret the wording.

Thementalloadisreal · 05/01/2024 11:22

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 05/01/2024 09:25

That may be true. But girl´s blouse, Victorian maiden etc.?

These term do have a gender-related component / relate to either being an item associated with women (or girls) or being a woman.

Using associations with femininity (or being feminine) as an insult... Well, I do find it rather unpleasant.

But as previous posters have said, it’s not that the girl is weak but the material of the blouse.

MoonWoman69 · 05/01/2024 11:17

This! Thank you for clarifying this! Raging feminists on the loose again I see?! Never mind the actual crux of the question OP posted, no, let's all just jump on the bandwagon of sexism/insults! Which, as you so deftly and conscisely explained, isn't that at all! There seems to be a growing number of "dungaree wearing, grow your own yoghurt, knit your own veg types" on MN that seem intent on needlessly commenting on posts, that bear absolutely no relation to the main question!!! Snowflakes everywhere, who don't stop to think about what was actually implied... Big girls blouse, denigrating women?! Get a fkn grip!!!

Thementalloadisreal · 05/01/2024 11:15

EdinGirl · 05/01/2024 07:37

Then why isn't the saying "you're being a blouse".

No... It is implying that being feminine and a woman AND plus sized is bad and weak.

Wow I’ve literally never thought of it like that. Interesting. Ok so to me, Big in this context means “extreme” or over the top like oh he’s being a big baby or he is making a big fuss, for instance. Not literally the size of the blouse or the girl.
If anything I always thought it was a rather self-aware, critical reflection on the uselessness and superficiality of women’s clothing versus men’s. A man’s shirt is tough and important, for working hard, a girl’s blouse is thin, weak and silly.

I thought we were all in on the joke!

cerisepanther73 · 05/01/2024 11:06

@KarenNotAKaren following on from @Dustpantsandbush insightful comment,

why don't you pretend you are allergic to dust mites so you can get out of doing any of the cleaning and hoovering household tasks too.

so you can have a well earned break for doing stuff like that and do other stuff at your leisure too...

I think Op needs to be more switched on about this to her benefit 🤔 aswell..

silverbubbles · 05/01/2024 11:04

Tell him to take charge of the washing himself or take it back and forth to the laundrette himself. He will soon stop being so absurd.

literalviolence · 05/01/2024 11:02

Jollyoldfruit · 05/01/2024 10:21

I had a friend who was dramatic about being allergic to my dog.
I would have sympathised if it wasn't for the fact that I too am allergic to some dogs and picked my dog on the basis she is very unlikely to cause allergies
Friends dd now owns a dog, the type which would cause me severe allergic reactions.
Friend has photos of him with said dog on his lap all the time.
I will never believe he's allergic to any dogs.

There's no dog breed which is unlikely to cause allergies. That is a myth:
https://www.nationwidechildrens.org/family-resources-education/700childrens/2020/11/myth-hypoallergenic-dog

I'm not commenting on your friend because it is possible, of course, that people come to believe things which are not actually true in terms of their health (with allergies, or anything else) but it's important for those people who do suffer with allergies not to promote myths.

AutumnFroglets · 05/01/2024 11:00

LegArmpits · 05/01/2024 09:06

Is Big Boy's Blouse acceptable? Asking for a friend.

No such thing as a boys blouse as that item is called a shirt. Perhaps we can no longer say others are shirty when it means bad tempered or annoyed because it's soooo mean to men?

OP - others have asked a very good question, what is he like with wet towels after a shower, or getting caught in the rain?

cerisepanther73 · 05/01/2024 10:58

@KarenNotAKaren

@Dibbydoos

I think 🤔 what the issue is mainly is here on this mumsnet thread is he needs to do an allergies tests and he needs to sort out i can't be arsed to make an effort even if it benefits myself
Cause my wife is like my pseudo mother and that's what women are good at in our society washing their husband's clothes and doing housekeeping,

Maybe its because he a man, that he is struggling to consirder get his head around multi task cause its traditionally a females household task.

Hope i get at least some comments 😅 that what i said I'd iffy offensive,

i will be a bit disappointed if i don't...

HidingUnderARock · 05/01/2024 10:52

the heated clothes airers are not very good....took absolutely ages to dry the washing. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ Only dries stuff if I drape one item across all the bars 🤔
I thought this till my son came home and dried a full load in the same time just by hanging a duvet cover over the whole thing. It makes no logical sense to me as it keeps the wet in as well as the heat, but I promise it works.

OP if you're not using a tumble drier you don't need fabric softener, so that might make it smell less. I hate perfumed laundry products.

toomuchfaff · 05/01/2024 10:51

autienotnaughty · 05/01/2024 10:35

I'd refuse to wash his clothes. I'd do mine when he's not there and ignore all moaning

Did you tell him about the wet washing

This.

I'd be doing my own washing and leave him to do his at his leisure. After all how would he cope if you weren't there to do it? What's his solution? Laundromat for everything?

Either that or tested experiments to determine what it is he is "allegic" too, after all, your blind test resulted in no reaction... maybe do another, filmed, so it's proven, and then record some kind of video with him and washing in the background. ta-daaaa suck it up buttercup!

Dustpantsandbush · 05/01/2024 10:51

He’s faking it so he doesn’t have to do the laundry. Start faking allergy to cooker heat so you don’t have to make any more meals.

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