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To think my DH is being a big girls blouse about the the washing?

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KarenNotAKaren · 05/01/2024 00:15

For years my DH Has allegedly been sensitive to wet washing - it makes him sneeze, wheeze and gives him itchy eyes. Apparently. He’s getting worse - when I simply take the washing out the machine he says within 30 seconds “Have you taken the washing out? It’s getting to my eyes already!” 🙄

I actually did an experiment in our last house. We had a kitchen living room open plan thing and when he was watching TV I very quietly unloaded the washing machine (he couldn’t see, TV was on loud too so couldn’t hear either) and left it all by the machine, and left the room. Came back 20 minutes later and he didn’t complain one bit or even clock on that he was in the same room as a pile of wet washing.

He won’t line dry his things because it makes his eyes itchy (🤷‍♀️). I can’t even have a sock drying on the radiator because it makes him sneeze apparently. I’d LOVE a heated airer as we spend an absolute fortune on tumble drying, but he’d make a right song and dance no doubt. Tumble drying is the only way he will dry his clothes. Even if I line dry mine he gets all dramatic if I come too close - “Oh god has that top been line dried - my eyes are itchy!”.

Weve just moved into a new home that has an integral washer/dryer. Well it doesn’t actually fucking dry anything? The ‘dryer’ part is a massive lie, so he wants to buy a separate washing machine AND dryer because apparently “I can’t live in a house with a condenser dryer it get to my eyes nose and lungs”. I sneered at him and he got really annoyed. I’d rather just stick with what we have and line dry things or get a heated airer.

I know I sound unsympathetic but I think he’s being so dramatic - I’ve asked his mum and he didn’t grow up with a tumble dryer, everything was dried on heaters and the washing line. He somehow survived childhood unscathed and his mum said he never had any issues. Yet as an adult all this OTT sneezing and “oh god it’s getting to my lungs that is” is going on - I just think he is being an attention seeker. No asthma. No respiratory issues.

Am I a horrible cow who needs to understand his sensitivities better? Do other people suffer like this just from being in the same room as a freshly washed sock? I’ve never heard of a single person who can’t be around wet washing. Or is he being the drama llama I think he is?

OP posts:
KarenNotAKaren · 06/01/2024 18:57

AlisonDonut · 06/01/2024 18:53

I'm very confused. Why did you do this?

Peer pressure, and fun

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AlisonDonut · 06/01/2024 18:53

KarenNotAKaren · 06/01/2024 18:31

WASHING UPDATE

Today I left a big pile of (not yet washed) clothes in the “Ready to go in the dryer or on the line” pink wash basket. The white one is normally the ‘smelly clothes ready to be washed’ basket.

Plonked the pink basket with the smelly not yet washed clothes masquerading as damp clothes, in the middle of the kitchen diner.

He said nothing! Even when I was “mind you don’t trip on that washing I need to dry it” he just said “OK”. Interesting 👀

I'm very confused. Why did you do this?

PrinciSalt · 06/01/2024 18:47

KarenNotAKaren · 06/01/2024 15:55

Also can anyone actually explain how ‘big girls blouse’ is sexist.

It refers to the material of women’s blouses being delicate and flimsy. Not women themsleves. Certainly not ‘big’ women - if you said “you big wimp” you wouldn’t mean “you fat wimp”

Surely if it’s anything it’s blouse-ist? I apologise profusely to all the offended blouses out there. And to those blouses, I say to you: it could be worse. I’ve just been accused of a being a man.

Edited

I haven’t commented on the phrase. But I don’t like it I have to admit. I don’t think it means larger woman. It just sounds generally denigrating towards women to me. Like a girl’s top is wishy washy and pathetic. It’s hard to disconnect the clothing item from the women wearing it and feels like a slight on women.

I would never say anything in public or think it worth challenging. It just has a sexist ‘feel’ to me (not very articulate of me I know!) I only mention my views here because you asked!

It is a bit like ‘you run like a girl’ to me in terms of an insult.

KarenNotAKaren · 06/01/2024 18:31

WASHING UPDATE

Today I left a big pile of (not yet washed) clothes in the “Ready to go in the dryer or on the line” pink wash basket. The white one is normally the ‘smelly clothes ready to be washed’ basket.

Plonked the pink basket with the smelly not yet washed clothes masquerading as damp clothes, in the middle of the kitchen diner.

He said nothing! Even when I was “mind you don’t trip on that washing I need to dry it” he just said “OK”. Interesting 👀

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KarenNotAKaren · 06/01/2024 18:28

LightSwerve · 06/01/2024 17:26

It's been explained loads of times.

But again for you in very simple terms.

The phrase traditionally means 'you (male person) are being girly when you do x/y/z'.

That is old-fashioned and sexist. Obviously.

But…but…it doesn’t mean that! At all.

I’ll say this in very simple terms: girl’s blouses are (traditionally) made of delicate and flimsy material. Saying someone is a ‘girls blouse’ is comparing them to the blouse. Not to a girl.

Do you understand that the ‘girl’ inclusion is about the type of blouse rather than women themselves?

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Lelophants · 06/01/2024 18:09

AutumnFroglets · 06/01/2024 17:49

My big girl blouses are getting a bit shirty over this phrase. Can we please concentrate on OPs original problem instead of trying to control her speech?

@KarenNotAKaren have you tried the two suggestions yet?
Put tumble dried items on clothes airer so pretending to be wet?
Leaving wet washing behind him/under bed?

It would be good to see if it’s an allergy, trauma based, or simple wankery on his part.

Sure but I guess I’m a little surprised. Mumsnet has such a strong feminist board and I hated growing up being told I was being ‘a girl’ or a ‘big girl’ or the full phrase ‘big girl’s blouse’. Just find it really weird it’s seen as ok on here. Just same old sexist shit that normally gets called out on mumsnet.

AutumnFroglets · 06/01/2024 17:49

My big girl blouses are getting a bit shirty over this phrase. Can we please concentrate on OPs original problem instead of trying to control her speech?

@KarenNotAKaren have you tried the two suggestions yet?
Put tumble dried items on clothes airer so pretending to be wet?
Leaving wet washing behind him/under bed?

It would be good to see if it’s an allergy, trauma based, or simple wankery on his part.

CruCru · 06/01/2024 17:42

I have no problem with the phrase big girl’s blouse. I think people are derailing what the thread is actually about.

LightSwerve · 06/01/2024 17:26

KarenNotAKaren · 06/01/2024 17:18

Well no not hasn’t - because people have given ‘explanations’ based on something else entirely

It's been explained loads of times.

But again for you in very simple terms.

The phrase traditionally means 'you (male person) are being girly when you do x/y/z'.

That is old-fashioned and sexist. Obviously.

soupfiend · 06/01/2024 17:24

KarenNotAKaren · 06/01/2024 15:55

Also can anyone actually explain how ‘big girls blouse’ is sexist.

It refers to the material of women’s blouses being delicate and flimsy. Not women themsleves. Certainly not ‘big’ women - if you said “you big wimp” you wouldn’t mean “you fat wimp”

Surely if it’s anything it’s blouse-ist? I apologise profusely to all the offended blouses out there. And to those blouses, I say to you: it could be worse. I’ve just been accused of a being a man.

Edited

All my blouses have been crying in the wardrobe since you have started this thread

But then they are big girl, big girlsblouses.

KarenNotAKaren · 06/01/2024 17:18

LightSwerve · 06/01/2024 16:15

It's been explained about fifty times on the thread.

If you can't understand the explanations that's on you.

Well no not hasn’t - because people have given ‘explanations’ based on something else entirely

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DontListenToWhatYouveConsumed · 06/01/2024 17:17

I use an EGG, the yellow unscented one. Does the job

galvaniser · 06/01/2024 16:41

I think what you've said so far sounds unkind. I base that on my personal experience of something similarly illogical upsetting me for no obvious reason that I could identify. It started off small but got bigger because the person I lived with was dismissive of it because it wasn't important to them and they didn't agree that it should matter. They even went as far as you did to try and trick me and prove it was all in my head. I knew that it was illogical already but it's not like everyone can always control everything that's 'just' in their head. So it got worse because I then had this thing but I also couldn't trust the person I was living with not to ambush me with it. If I'd have been living alone I could have just made small adjustments to the way I lived and no one would have been any the wiser. We all live 'just' in our heads and we all make adjustments to our lives to accommodate our needs. When you live with someone you need to have a frank discussion with each other about which ones are non-negotiable for each of you and then respect that. I don't know what the rest of your relationship is like but in this one instance your complaint definitely seems unreasonable to me given the level of distress you report it's causing him. I do also agree that it sounds like he could be more proactive about finding solutions that accommodate you both though.

CleaningAngel · 06/01/2024 16:39

Dumbo18 · 06/01/2024 16:22

Could not get worked up about the phrase big girls blouse… wow 😂

Exactly!! I used to call my staffie dog a big girls blouse!!! Due to him been an utter wuss and not portraying the tough staffie facade!!

I feel for this lady, but also get the feeling she has a fantastic sense of humour. I'd love yo be a 'fly on the wall' when she experiments with hiding the wet washing near him!!!

OP please answer one thing....if his clothes on his body get wet during rain what happens then, or his bath towel gets wet when he dries himself? Surely he can smell the washing powder/liquid/softener on them especially if its first time wearing and it rains!!!

Dumbo18 · 06/01/2024 16:22

Could not get worked up about the phrase big girls blouse… wow 😂

LightSwerve · 06/01/2024 16:15

KarenNotAKaren · 06/01/2024 15:55

Also can anyone actually explain how ‘big girls blouse’ is sexist.

It refers to the material of women’s blouses being delicate and flimsy. Not women themsleves. Certainly not ‘big’ women - if you said “you big wimp” you wouldn’t mean “you fat wimp”

Surely if it’s anything it’s blouse-ist? I apologise profusely to all the offended blouses out there. And to those blouses, I say to you: it could be worse. I’ve just been accused of a being a man.

Edited

It's been explained about fifty times on the thread.

If you can't understand the explanations that's on you.

KarenNotAKaren · 06/01/2024 15:55

Also can anyone actually explain how ‘big girls blouse’ is sexist.

It refers to the material of women’s blouses being delicate and flimsy. Not women themsleves. Certainly not ‘big’ women - if you said “you big wimp” you wouldn’t mean “you fat wimp”

Surely if it’s anything it’s blouse-ist? I apologise profusely to all the offended blouses out there. And to those blouses, I say to you: it could be worse. I’ve just been accused of a being a man.

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KarenNotAKaren · 06/01/2024 15:53

Also my DH was in the infantry - as far away from upper rank as you can get

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KarenNotAKaren · 06/01/2024 15:52

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What ‘squaddie speak’ have I displayed? I’m not and never have been a ‘squaddie’ so to speak like them is a happy accident.

AS me. I’m not a man.

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Seren8 · 06/01/2024 15:36

Chemical sensitivity is often brought on by extreme chronic stress and trauma. There is definitely a connection

Seren8 · 06/01/2024 15:33

Chemical sensitivity is particularly common with people who have served in the armed forces and similar roles. Your test didn't sound very scientific and you seem to be struggling with not feeling compassion, as well as using language that denigrates women and shames men for having any vulnerability. If you are shouldering too heavy a burden of domestic work it's entirely reasonable to ask for help with a different task to compensate you but please educate yourself around this issue.

KJKB · 06/01/2024 15:02

If you can afford the machines, just get the machines. It's really not worth all the drama... nor the sneering, bitching and name calling.

Mairgret · 06/01/2024 15:02

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KarenNotAKaren · 06/01/2024 14:05

Koalasparkles · 06/01/2024 09:59

OP you sound a delight. Your poor husband

Shall I send him to live with you?

I am a delight thank you. And I’m sexy too.

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Bamboobzled · 06/01/2024 13:29

brainworms · 05/01/2024 05:48

He sounds like a massive baby. 🙄

Given that the poor guy saw his best friend shot and killed in front of him and could have died himself says he's not a massive baby. He's a man with trauma. You are a judgemental moo though...

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