Drinking wine each evening

Loving the pass agg ‘sweetheart’. Why has this upset you so much @25yearstilretirement?

Sure. Nice drip feed. Have you ever heard of DARVO? Because you seem to be a classic case.

I'm Muslim and therefore a non-drinker so no, but that was an extremely defensive answer so I would take a quick look at yourself on this one sweetheart

Um, the only person showing ‘rage’ seems to be you. Strike a little too close to home did it?

But eating a bar of chocolate every day or doing weed is not a good thing? I don’t think anyone would claim it is.

My dad drank every evening and when questioned would always say ‘but in X country they do this.’
And on the days he didn’t drink was slightly grumpy and bad tempered.

If you need wine for your MH then no matter how little or how much maybe that fact itself needs some introspection. So if I used say shopping (aka a not physically harmful activity) for my MH. I didn’t spend much but without that semi daily purchase high my life was dull, I would stop and interrogate why.

If you were not able to do it for one night, two nights longer - how would you feel ? That's your answer.

Absolutely

I didn’t think the amount was that excessive (too much, yes, but easy enough to cut down) until the OP went into a blind panic at the idea of not drinking.

She posted (in order):

1. My husband thinks it’s OK
2. Where does 14 units come from anyway?
3. Life’s boring and lacking sparkle without wine
4. The French drink loads
5. 14 units isn’t even accurate
6. Other people have bad health habits (listed out).
7. There are lots of bad things in life not just wine
8. 14 units is an arbitrary made up number - she might as well smoke weed or shoot up heroin
9. In Spain, she’d be under the limit
10. Denmark has a different limit
11. She’d never do dry January as it’s very bad for you health-wise to stop for a month then start again.

The sheer number of justifications and whataboutisms culminating in a claim that stopping drinking is bad for your health (which only applies if someone is physically dependant on alcohol) suggests to me that while some people may be able to drink this much without an issue, the OP already has a problematic relationship with alcohol.

Edited to say: In which case, not drinking two days a week means nothing as she is still alcohol reliant, just increasing the time between drinks.

Well it can't be great for you.

It IS a slippery slope.
Im not saying youll slide down it but its a habit, habits dont take a lot to turn them into an addiction.

Curious as to how you get 14 glasses of wine out of 2.5 bottles? 😆
Did you mean magnums of champaigne?

There's always the exception that proves the rule.

My grandad drank like a fish and lived until 92. It still doesn’t mean it’s a good thing to do. Hence why I quit in my 40s

Yes to counter all the “my granny lived until 90 and drank daily” a local friend died at 52 from it

This is true, as I said in my earlier post that liver damage is a silent killer until it’s too late to do anything! I gave up drinking 17 yrs ago but still have a fatty liver, probably because I eat salted peanuts most evenings 🤦‍♀️ but I wonder how doctors tell the difference between alcoholic or non alcoholic liver disease? Or are they going off the info we tell them?

A friend of mine nearly died recently due to consistent (but I wouldn’t have said particularly heavy) alcohol use. She has a lot of ongoing health issues including needing to be tube fed and is going blind.

She held down a professional job and you’d never had said that she was a drinker as she was never drunk but it was rare to see her without a glass of wine in hindsight.

Our cousin also died through alcohol related issues in her thirties. She was a binge drinker.

So my feeling is that it’s not a good idea and if this is the only way you can feel happy and relaxed, maybe you need help.

Before anyone starts I’m not saying that you should never drink.

I did used to do this but I gained so much weight. I have had to stop drinking wine almost entirely now as it gets me very drunk on one glass and I do sleep terribly.

I just drink a couple of low cal G&T’s a couple of times a week.

most people I know I think do drink at home frequently yes. Our local shop is always full of people buying wine any weeknight

This is only true if drinking at very high levels.

A month of abstinence would do most of us good.

As a nurse, if you were to be admitted onto my ward, I would be very concerned that you drink 2.5 bottles of wine a week

😂 Fkn hell.

As a nurse, if you were to be admitted onto my ward, I would be very concerned that you drink 2.5 bottles of wine a week. It sounds like your addicted to it, which would mean that if you suddenly stopped drinking, you would have withdrawal symptoms. My advice would be to cut down to every other day.

This idea that alcohol is good for you is falacy. And regarding Italian people they dont drink much at all. My FIL who is nearly 90 drinks a very small glass with his meals. Probably 100ml/150 ml a day.
Most middle aged people I know there will only drink on special meals. Family Sunday lunch, when eating out with friends.
It is a very diferent relationship with alcohol than here in the UK.
I think you have an issue. Not the amount per se but you clear reluctance to stop.
I don't drink much these days but when I was on my 20 I was drinking loads and to test my self I'd take a month break to see if I would cope OK.
You are drinking at home alone. So not a social thing. I'd be taking a month break to see how youd cope if I were you

Try 2 consecutive days a week without otherwise you’re fine if it’s no more than 2. Even would be fine if 2 days off 1/2 other days and wee bit more at weekend.

The thing with threads like this is that there will be those who enjoy a glass of wine a night and continue to only drink one glass, have no health issues and live to 101 like the Queen mother. There'll be others who drink a bit more, will be affected but not realise or are kidding themselves.

When my mum was in her 40s she only drank alcohol on Wednesday, Friday and Saturday and was never visibly drunk. Then a couple of life events happened in quick succession and it increased almost overnight. She is now 70, has Korsakoffs and needs home care.

My advice would be that if you feel you need alcohol or if it's your go to when you feel stressed or unhappy then be very careful as it doesn't take much to take hold of you if you're already regularly drinking.

As a pp mentioned, no/low sparkling wines have improved a LOT, and can be fairly pleasant. However, every red wine lover knows that so far, no one has invented a no/low red wine that tastes anything like red wine.

I imagine that there is a race to do so. As soon as a red wine with no/low alcohol tastes like red wine should is produced, they'll be able to name their price.

I absolutely love a glass of wine, but I'm not keen on feeling affected by alcohol, and stick with no higher than 12/13% as a rule, and not too much of it. It's all about the wonderful flavour for me.

There is recent research to show there really is no safe amount.

www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health

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