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To let my step daughter call me "mum" ?

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Lospecesenelrio · 28/12/2023 21:38

Good evening everyone. Long time reader, but new poster. I feel like a horrible mother, and would love some opinions on my situation. Feel free to be as honest as you want.

I am married to a wonderful man, I'll call "William" here for the past 7 years. William has a 9yo daughter and I have a 19yo son. Together, we have 4yo twins.

My son lives with us full time, so does my daughter. The difference is that my son's father is very much involved while my SD's mother is absent.

She has always known who her mother is, but hasn't seen her in 4 years now. SD used to call me by my name, but recently she started calling me mum. I am very happy with it, she even wrote me a beautiful letter asking me to adopt her in the future.

The issue is that my son isn't happy with it. He keeps having arguments with me about how I am not her mother, and that I am betraying him. He goes " I don't call William dad so why would she called you mum". I keep explaining to him that she feels left out that everyone calls me mum in the house apart from her ( That's what she said to me.)

But , for the past week, he stopped talking to and threatens to never see me or his siblings again if I let my stepdaughter call me mum.

I refuse to tell her to not call me what she wants. She has been there since the day I have met my husband. Am I a horrible mother to not take into account my son's expectations/needs?

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TheSilentSister · 29/12/2023 20:47

Totally not the same but my parents had a female lodger once and I couldn't stand the thought that if they went out together (they worked together for years) that people thought she was their daughter, not me!! Totally irrational I know. I felt like I'd been side-lined/replaced even though I didn't live at home anymore. I didn't rock the boat though as I knew I was being weird and I got over it eventually.
Is there any other family member (wider circle) that could have a word with him. In any case, don't invalidate his feelings, just lots of reassurance.

DeeLusional · 29/12/2023 20:42

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mayorofcasterbridge · 29/12/2023 20:24

pineapplesundae · 29/12/2023 20:22

Don’t listen to FloofCloud or your DS. Your son should be embarrassed to harbor such resentment against a nine year old. Is there a counselor that he can talk to? He needs to learn compassion and empathy.

What makes you think it's "resentment"??

pineapplesundae · 29/12/2023 20:22

Don’t listen to FloofCloud or your DS. Your son should be embarrassed to harbor such resentment against a nine year old. Is there a counselor that he can talk to? He needs to learn compassion and empathy.

sunglassesonthetable · 29/12/2023 20:20

He is a man. Tell him to man up

Pathetic

mayorofcasterbridge · 29/12/2023 20:19

DeeLusional · 29/12/2023 20:08

My 35yo is still MY child, but he is not A child. Your comment however is very childish indeed.

Your comments throughout this thread have been childish and ridiculous. You would argue with your toenails.

In any case, I was referring to the OP's children, same way as you refer to your child, and if you weren't so busy trying to be argumentative, you should have noted that.

A 19 year old is barely out of childhood. Biggest load of crap posted on this site sometimes!

Appleofmyeye2023 · 29/12/2023 20:10

ShiteRider · 28/12/2023 21:50

There’s more to being a mum than biology

This is the key point to get through to your son.
you are acting as her mother. Ask him how he thinks you should be treating her differently?

DeeLusional · 29/12/2023 20:08

mayorofcasterbridge · 29/12/2023 20:01

Oh don't be so ridiculous. I'm 60 and I am still my parents' child ffs!!!!

My 35yo is still MY child, but he is not A child. Your comment however is very childish indeed.

Blueink · 29/12/2023 20:08

Your son needs to recognise he’s actually an adult now. I don’t know if he is willing to reflect and consider his situation is very different to DSD (timings, age difference, relationship with parents)?

It’s lovely and understandable she’s made this request and would go along with it.

I’d be open to discussing with DS but not to be manipulated by him.

Zone2NorthLondon · 29/12/2023 20:08

Nipsmum · 29/12/2023 20:02

He is a man. Tell him to man up

It’s your suggestion, why don’t you explain how he man’s up
what does he do?
what if he won’t man up? What if he cannot or will not man up, who will instruct him?
is this universal advice, do you tell all male relatives and friends to resolve emotional turmoil by manning up?
Attachment,and fear of abandonment = man up?
what about exam stress, university pressure, relationships are they all man up situations? Is everything in life a simple man up. In fact if it’s so simple should manning up be on the curriculum? PSHE the man up years
Hows about Covid, should we all man up following that? Was there enough man up during that pandemic

FrippEnos · 29/12/2023 20:07

Nipsmum · 29/12/2023 20:02

He is a man. Tell him to man up

Did we just step back in time?
Until I read this thread I had hoped that we were passed this BS.

InfamousPartyAnimal · 29/12/2023 20:06

Nipsmum · 29/12/2023 20:02

He is a man. Tell him to man up

Brilliant.
I wonder how many young men that have gone on to commit suicide have been told to 'man up'?
He is allowed feelings about this situation, he may be going about expressing them poorly but it's no wonder so many of our adult males lack emotional intelligence if this is the way they are parented.

Kellogg1 · 29/12/2023 20:05

I find it astonishing that a 19year old can’t allow his mother to be called mum by a young child whose mother is absent and you are fulfilling that role.

Blood does not make a family.

Ask him to write down a reasonable argument as to why he isn’t happy with it happening. He will struggle without sounding incredibly immature and petty.

mayorofcasterbridge · 29/12/2023 20:04

loserssaywhat · 29/12/2023 18:24

She’s 9 and it sounds like you’re the only mum she’s known. You’re son is 19, in effect he’s an adult and can leave and go stand on his own 2 feet if he wishes.
i mean absolutely no disrespect here to you but he sounds like a spoilt, entitled arsehole. This little girl calling you mum does not affect him in any way. Call his bluff and tell him to pack up his shit and go! I wouldn’t allow myself to be blackmailed in such a way.

So he's an "arsehole" now - because he has complicated emotions about this and isn't able to express them coherently???!

Bloody hell.

Nipsmum · 29/12/2023 20:02

He is a man. Tell him to man up

mayorofcasterbridge · 29/12/2023 20:01

DeeLusional · 29/12/2023 19:57

The 19yo is NOT a child. H

Oh don't be so ridiculous. I'm 60 and I am still my parents' child ffs!!!!

mayorofcasterbridge · 29/12/2023 20:00

Maray1967 · 29/12/2023 19:57

Nothing cruel about it. I would expect my sons to understand that DSD needs a mum. I would be horrified if my 19 old essentially tried to blackmail me.

You are completely and spectacularly missing the point here.

I would be horrified if my 19 year old was so deeply upset by his stepsister wanting to call me mum. I'd be wanting to get to the bottom of why, not telling him to grow the fuck up, like his feelings don't matter!!

mayorofcasterbridge · 29/12/2023 19:59

FatFemale · 29/12/2023 17:27

Ah bless her. Yes id let her call you mum. If the 19 year old doesn’t like it, he knows where the door is. Youve done nothing wrong here

Caring approach there then!

Sleepytiredyawn · 29/12/2023 19:58

It sounds like you’re her Mum to me. If she’s happy calling you Mum and you’re happy too then it’s sorted. You have referred to her as your Daughter before then saying Step Daughter to make it clear for the post. I think you see her as your Daughter and your Son will get over it, he’s just having a wobble.

Maray1967 · 29/12/2023 19:57

mayorofcasterbridge · 29/12/2023 19:50

I hope for the sake of your kids you would never been so cruel!

Nothing cruel about it. I would expect my sons to understand that DSD needs a mum. I would be horrified if my 19 old essentially tried to blackmail me.

DeeLusional · 29/12/2023 19:57

mayorofcasterbridge · 29/12/2023 19:48

I completely agree with you!

The vitriol and dismissing is shocking, cruel and vicious. You really do have to wonder about the character of those posting in that way.

The issue of DSD using 'mum' and his reaction to that is separate to his other poor behaviour, which absolutely should be addressed.

However, there is something much more visceral, more deep-seated that is going on here, and it absolutely needs to be addressed. This lad needs support to accept that his mum is to all intents and purposes DSD's mum too, and she will be calling her that.

It's really not about one child versus another!!

Some posters should be ashamed of their utter callousness.

The 19yo is NOT a child. H

Zone2NorthLondon · 29/12/2023 19:51

whatsitcalledwhen · 29/12/2023 19:35

The poster was being sarcastic.

In that case, I got it wrong. In the context of all the bilious indignation it’s been hard going
apologies To @sunglassesonthetable

FrippEnos · 29/12/2023 19:50

I haven't RTFT (so sue me).
I stopped with all the shit that is being thrown at your son.
It could well be possible that this stems from the fact that he has been through a huge amount in his teenage years.
Presumably the separation from his dad, schools years, puberty, GCSEs, A levels (possibly) your new husband, house move? losing space to others, the pregnancy, birth of twins.
There is also losing his dad in there somewhere (edit)

This could well be all of this coming out now as he has coped with such a lot and its finally come to a head.

mayorofcasterbridge · 29/12/2023 19:50

Maray1967 · 29/12/2023 09:31

This. I’ve got a 23 year old and a 15 year old and if either of them behaved like your son I’d tear a strip off them. His behaviour is pathetic. She doesn’t see her biological mum. To all intents and purposes you are her mum. I’d be speaking very firmly to him about his self centred, selfish behaviour.

I hope for the sake of your kids you would never been so cruel!

mayorofcasterbridge · 29/12/2023 19:48

InfamousPartyAnimal · 29/12/2023 09:57

I voted YANBU however the amount of vitriol on here aimed at a very young man is shocking.
Considering most people on mn are happy to pipe up and explain that the adult brain isn't fully formed until people are 25 and we should cut young people some slack....what they mean is we should cut young adult women some slack, boys/men should be thrown to the wolves!

I completely agree with you!

The vitriol and dismissing is shocking, cruel and vicious. You really do have to wonder about the character of those posting in that way.

The issue of DSD using 'mum' and his reaction to that is separate to his other poor behaviour, which absolutely should be addressed.

However, there is something much more visceral, more deep-seated that is going on here, and it absolutely needs to be addressed. This lad needs support to accept that his mum is to all intents and purposes DSD's mum too, and she will be calling her that.

It's really not about one child versus another!!

Some posters should be ashamed of their utter callousness.