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Mother priorities her dogs over everything.

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Angrymum198 · 27/12/2023 20:34

I feel really upset tonight and I don’t know if I am exaggerating. My mum has two rescue dogs that she absolutely dotes on. They rule her life. She can’t be out the house more than a couple of hours, she has to be at home at 3pm as that when they eat.
she doesn’t welcome anyone into her house as it upsets the dogs.
Tonight I went round her house with my three young children and husband and her dog was barking and growling at my one year old. I tried to calmly remove him from the living room and my mum went mad.
I then stormed out and left. I feel that she puts their welfare before any of her grandchildren. She has 6 other grandchildren that don’t feel welcome at her house because of these dogs.

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Wooloohooloo · 27/12/2023 23:16

I can't believe that people don't understand how it is hurtful that your mum prefers her dogs to her own children and grandkids. I think you should go low contact and I certainly wouldn't have your DH doing her any jobs/favours.

Merrymouse · 27/12/2023 23:16

Purplewarrior · 27/12/2023 21:17

You say your mother doesn’t welcome anyone into the house, so why did you turn up with toddler/DC/DH? Had she actually invited you? In which case she does have people round.

It sounds like you just can’t accept that your mother is an independent adult with her own priorities and decisions.

Can you really not compromise and see her outside her home, at a time that suits her?

Or are you used to bullying her?

If the dogs can only be left for a short time, it sounds as though they would be difficult.

Starblind19 · 27/12/2023 23:12

This post is a massive reflection on why every other day some poor person is mauled by a dog. Dogs are not babies dogs have to understand they are last in the pecking order as far as humans are concerned. Removing a dog who is in a situation who is resource guarding is absolutely the right thing to do. Otherwise you are reinforcing that behaviour by allowing it to continue.
Cannot believe on a mumsnet forum people are actually agreeing with the mum. Who would quite happily risk her one year old grandchild face so her dog could have a reset and change focus from the thing it was clearly resource guarding. You absolutely did the right thing and what's more I would tell your mum how disappointed you are in her behaviour and recommend a dog behaviourist. She might be lonely because her kids have flown the nest but she's going to be so much lonelier when her dog bites some poor kid and is then PTS. We have normalised this babying of dogs and sadly this does them no favours. What other animal puts another species before it's young?

Mrsttcno1 · 27/12/2023 23:07

No I wouldn’t risk a rescue dog growling next to my one year old, but I wouldn’t be going over to somebody else’s dog in somebody else’s home and trying to remove THEM from the situation. I’d pick my one year old up and remove myself & them. That’s the obvious and sensible option. You’re in someone else’s home with someone else’s animals, it is not your place to try and control their pets or their environment, all you can do is control yourself and your children in a situation. You weren’t happy with it, so the obvious thing to do within your control is to remove the one year old from the perceived risk.

Also, again, if the one year old was in the house, when your mum has repeatedly said that her dogs struggle with guests, then yes they were in the dogs space.

Angrymum198 · 27/12/2023 23:01

@Mrsttcno1 I understand a dog growling is a warning sign. But would you risk a dog growling near a one year old? who was for context only running around laughing and no where near his personal space.
Also I have to mention again we did not just show up! We gave them four days notice.
And again the dog would have happily gone outside or into another room
without showing HUGE distress 🙄

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Mrsttcno1 · 27/12/2023 22:39

StrictlyComeSnoozing · 27/12/2023 22:35

A dog growling isn't the same as a dog attacking, its telling you that they don't like something.

The rational thing to do would have been to pick the child up and remove them from the situation, and prevent them running around near the dog.

Ultimately its your mother's home, and entirely her prerogative whether to prioritise her dogs. Meet her elsewhere.

100%.

So many people seem to see a dog growling/barking/being vocal as extremely aggressive, when actually this is the kind of behaviour you want to see really. This is a dog saying “I don’t like this, stop”. They can’t communicate in the same way humans can so they have to do it their own way, and as humans so often these growls are misread as horrific when it’s a completely healthy behaviour and no different to me saying to you “you are coming in to my personal space and I don’t like it, back off”.

bozzabollix · 27/12/2023 22:38

I’m sorry but being someone who has had dogs for all of my forty eight years, when did it become a thing that you cannot leave your dog at all? Contented dogs sleep a huge amount and I know mine curl up and snooze when I’m out. Never leaving a dog is somewhat extreme behaviour, how does anyone do anything?

So you aren’t being unreasonable in my mind but she’s very different to me. Shame for your children they can’t have longer with her.

Canisaysomething · 27/12/2023 22:37

I’ve worked with rescue dogs with complex issues and triggers. They don’t mix with house guests. They stay in a separate area of the house designated for them to feel safe and secure, far away from guests. To reach this point there needs to be proper training. It sounds like your mum is clueless but sadly, it also sounds like she doesn’t really care.

Caravaggiouch · 27/12/2023 22:36

Yes she’s made her choice. An idiotic one, in my view, but I’m not a dog obsessive. Dogs are pets, they are not children or “like her children”. Don’t take your DC there again, she can’t be trusted to have trained those dogs properly. I would feel very sad about the choices she is making, but they are hers, and she should bear the downsides of them in the form of not getting to see her grandchildren.

StrictlyComeSnoozing · 27/12/2023 22:35

A dog growling isn't the same as a dog attacking, its telling you that they don't like something.

The rational thing to do would have been to pick the child up and remove them from the situation, and prevent them running around near the dog.

Ultimately its your mother's home, and entirely her prerogative whether to prioritise her dogs. Meet her elsewhere.

Hoglet70 · 27/12/2023 22:32

Angrymum198 · 27/12/2023 22:30

@Hoglet70 I can clearly see by your posts that you dislike children. Weird that your on a mumsnet forum 🤣
I love dogs, I am a massive animal lover I have two cats, two horses and a 13 year old beagle who I love very much. I have also had a Romanian rescue prior to having children who had to sadly be put to sleep due to ill health.
NOT THAT I SHOULD HAVE TO AGAIN JUSTIFY MYSELF AGAIN!

I don't like kids but I love Mumsnet drama lol.

Angrymum198 · 27/12/2023 22:32

I did 😩

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Sholkedabemus · 27/12/2023 22:31

I do sort of get this. Your mother has a life now that is pretty lonely and empty. Her life once revolved around her children but they have gone now, to lead their own lives. Your mum has created a new life with purpose, around her replacement family, her dogs. They are there for her 24/7, her actual family have busy lives and are no longer her focus.

Hoglet70 · 27/12/2023 22:31

Gymmum82 · 27/12/2023 22:28

We don’t. But I wouldn’t take a chance if my own dog was growling at someone. Why would you? If that dog bites it’s as sure as dead. I wouldn’t take the risk

I would have taken the child well away from the dog. it's either or.

Angrymum198 · 27/12/2023 22:30

Hoglet70 · 27/12/2023 22:25

We don't know the dog was anywhere near hurting the child. The OP sounds a bit anti dogs (obvs I am anti children and my opinion cannot be trusted lol).

@Hoglet70 I can clearly see by your posts that you dislike children. Weird that your on a mumsnet forum 🤣
I love dogs, I am a massive animal lover I have two cats, two horses and a 13 year old beagle who I love very much. I have also had a Romanian rescue prior to having children who had to sadly be put to sleep due to ill health.
NOT THAT I SHOULD HAVE TO AGAIN JUSTIFY MYSELF AGAIN!

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coldcallerbaiter · 27/12/2023 22:30

Cheesestring67 · 27/12/2023 22:14

They are her own Grandchildren. Mind boggles. I'm not an animal lover and despise dogs, you get looked at like you've 2 heads when I say this.

I know and they stink too.

Mrsttcno1 · 27/12/2023 22:29

Angrymum198 · 27/12/2023 22:20

@Hoglet70 you might not like kids but they are her own grandchildren!!!

Also@Mrsttcno1 I’m fully aware that Romanian rescues can be nervous have anxiety, having owned one in the past. One is nervous and does tend to take him self away. But this one particular dog would be more than comfortable being separated from my mother.

They have cameras and when left he sleeps the entire time. He has no signs of anxiety. He just owns the home. He dislikes anyone sitting on his sofa.

I won’t be going round there again. But I feel it’s rather sad that it’s no longer an option because of them being priority over her own grandchildren.
My dad does not feel this way and it is different when he’s around.

I don’t think you are fully aware though, because it sounds as though you are very rarely in the presence of these dogs due to the fact that in your own words you are “not welcome”, so you are certainly not around them enough to know of their needs, anxieties, behaviours etc. Your mum is, and rightly or wrongly it’s her house, her dogs, and her choices to make. You can disagree with them and be disappointed, but it is ultimately up to her.

Also, “dislikes anyone sitting on his sofa” is a classic sign of resource guarding and if I had to guess that’s exactly why the dog was growling/barking. Again- very common in rescues and other dogs in general. They see their home/bed/sofa/owner/rug etc as “theirs”, and they do not want any outsiders going anywhere near it. So everything your mum is doing does make sense, she has 2 rescues who don’t cope well with guests in the house. The solution she has chosen to that is to have no visitors, that is her right although you can love it or hate it, it doesn’t change it.

It is a shame for you, but I have to say I can sort of see why your mum got her back up about you moving the dog. You came to her home uninvited with your child and then when you saw an issue you chose to try and remove her dog- who’s home it is- rather than pick your child up and take them out of the situation. She has made her choices re the dogs and you won’t be able to change her mind so maybe it is time to think of an alternative. Meeting somewhere neutral for example

Gymmum82 · 27/12/2023 22:28

Hoglet70 · 27/12/2023 22:25

We don't know the dog was anywhere near hurting the child. The OP sounds a bit anti dogs (obvs I am anti children and my opinion cannot be trusted lol).

We don’t. But I wouldn’t take a chance if my own dog was growling at someone. Why would you? If that dog bites it’s as sure as dead. I wouldn’t take the risk

TomatoSandwiches · 27/12/2023 22:27

It is hurtful op but she has clearly made her choice and it's in the dogs favour.
I wouldn't darken her doorstep again if she wasn't concerned about the growling at a 1yr old.
Leave her to her dogs and if she kicks off about no contact then remind her of what she has chosen to prioritise.

Angrymum198 · 27/12/2023 22:25

Achoo2 · 27/12/2023 22:21

I've worked with rescues both in the UK and from Spain/Greece. Whilst it is very admirable that she is given these dogs a chance at a better life, they are often very different to dogs born/bred/rescued in the UK, and as a pp has said - you can never know their triggers. I find two things concerning-1) the dogs are clearly showing discomfort around children - evidenced twice by yourself and your sister and 2) them being referred to as 'babies'. Babying dogs is SO wrong and shows a clear lack of understanding and is often the cause of, extremely negative canine behaviour. Dogs need a leader and clear boundaries. Your mum needs to try and educate herself on this and imho both you and your sister should not visit unless your mother is aware you are coming, and is prepared to teach them to be separated whilst you are there. If she cannot or will not do this, I see this as an accident waiting to happen. Please protect your children.

This is really helpful. Thankyou

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Hoglet70 · 27/12/2023 22:25

Gymmum82 · 27/12/2023 22:22

Your mum just sounds a bit stupid. The dog was acting aggressively. You tried to remove it. What did your mum do? Why wouldn’t she try and remove the dog? It’s her baby. She adores it. Had it bitten your child it would have been put down. Killed because of her stupidity.
The most sensible thing was to remove the dog from the situation and instead your mum lost the plot over it. It’s like she’s looking for her pets to be euthanised

We don't know the dog was anywhere near hurting the child. The OP sounds a bit anti dogs (obvs I am anti children and my opinion cannot be trusted lol).

mottytotty · 27/12/2023 22:24

OP, she is choosing this. Let her crack on and see how much help her dogs are when she’s old.

Just ignore her and concentrate on your dc.

How are your in laws, are they good grandparents to dc?

Angrymum198 · 27/12/2023 22:23

So hurtful

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Hoglet70 · 27/12/2023 22:23

@Angrymum198 There's no law that says you have to like your grandchildren!

Cornishclio · 27/12/2023 22:23

I think that is ridiculous she prioritises her dogs above all else. Alienating relatives means if she needs support as she ages she won't have it. Dogs fulfil companionship for her but they can't do her shopping when she is ill and not seeing her grandchildren as they grow up makes no sense to me but each to their own. I also don't think it is good for dogs not to get used to people other than their owners. My DDs border collie is wonderful around children and very flexible over when she is fed so able to be left for a fair few hours.

Going forward maybe just meet at yours or somewhere near hers if her dogs are not good around children. She might not change though so adjust your expectations of her. It must be difficult.

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