To feel sad my friend got Botox?

I understand where you are coming from. I feel sad when I see anyone with botox/fillers etc. Aging should be celebrated, not something we should be fighting against. Age is beauty and the pressure put on people (especially women) to look a certain way is worrying.

Yeah if you are familiar with Botox you can see some telltale signs. I do think there’s some bad work and some
more good, subtle work which is less detectable. It’s best not to keep going back every 3 months and keep having a good break to not lose sense of perspective.

Men never notice though..

You had Botox done when you were ELEVEN?

I'd feel the same. A friend of mine has had so much Botox and fillers that she doesn't look the same anymore. She looks quite hideous but was fine before.

I'll be flamed for saying that but it is what it is.

I don’t think you should be sad. It’s not your face. I honestly do not care less what my friends do with their faces. As long they’re healthy and happy, I’m happy.

What’s more weird is people with botox can apparently tell when someone else has had it too.
I learned recently that 2 people I work with ( in their early 30’s) have it regularly, I had no clue but they said they can alway recognise a face with botox ?
I must be just really unobservant and have had no botox but do think it’s up to the individual, if that makes them more confident they so be it. No concern of mine.

I got Botox in my 11s and knew my mum would not be able to restrain herself from commenting.

So I told her I had booked to get it done next week and she was all 'you'll look frozen and ridiculous'

To which I said...actually I had it done two weeks ago and you didn't notice so it can't be that bad.

She still moans. I still love it.

I think you're being ridiculously OTT.

Yabu. If she feels happier with Botox then good for her.

So what, we aren't allowed to have feelings anymore?

YABU what's it got to do with you?

Agree. The amount of young 20s girls with duck lips is insane. Is it a thing once you start this stuff you cannot see what I see? Profile of a duck. Frozen faces. Absolutely insane eyebrows a la Star Trek 1986. Someone told me they only had like 1ml of filler in their lips - they looked like Orville. Don't get me on the arse fillers.....

Well considering the amount of filler and sausage lips in the ‘younger generation’ I don’t hold out much hope. And that looks far worse than a little bit of Botox.

Let's hope our younger generation have more about them than to be so vain and shallow that they resort to this.
What a terrible example we are teaching them.
It is a priverlege to grow older and wiser.

Same, I have Botox, I like it, it just erases the lines a bit and I feel better with it. My husband has never noticed or my best friend and she would definitely say something if she had noticed!

If she’s just had it a few weeks ago she’ll be peak Botox right now. It always looks better as you go in to the 2nd month and Botox round the eyes wears off much quicker than the forehead.

Agree that Botox around the eyes is such a tricky area to get right and too much can result in a very ‘dead behind the eyes’ look.

It always looks better when wearing off.

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable.

Also for everyone saying how is it your business if your friend got Botox. Well unobtainable beauty standards and attitudes to aging are all our business. Yes everyone is entitled to make their own decisions but at least have the self awareness to acknowledge that those decisions don’t happen in a vacuum, they add to the steady drip drip drip of pressure on women not to age.

I wouldn’t verbalise any of this to a friend who got Botox, because the relationship is more important than that.

How do you actually know she got botox?

I get what you mean. People have facial expressions for a reason, we use them to read people and when their facial expressions aren't 'normal' it can be quite disconcerting. Botox crying face was trending recently because it is so absurd. So long as you just think it and don't say it's grand.

I understand OP. On the one hand, I feel like people should absolutely do whatever they like with their bodies. On the other, I wonder if Botox is going to be one of those things that people look back decades in the future and ask what the hell we were thinking. I believe most modern beauty standards have been devised, over time, by rich old men in boardrooms; there's a lot of money to be made by making women feel uncomfortable with natural aging. How are we in a situation that using toxins to paralyse parts of your face is now the norm? It's objectively weird, right? I'm pretty crinkly for my age and I'm not going to say that I love it, but I'm trying not to give it too much headspace. I definitely feel the pressure though!

Sorry op but you sound really patronising. You were right the first time, it’s none of your business.

Is this a double eyelid? I think it means an obvious mobile lid on an eye. On lots of people it disappears under the underbrow non mobile bit. This is Jacque thingy who replaced Siobhan in Banananaramamama.

tell her she looks worse; never saw anyone look better with it and yet so many all for the lie.

I did Botox and my DH didn't even notice. I think your friend just overdid it. It's perfectly possible to get Botox and still retain some crinkliness around the eyes.

I know what you mean, friend started this, now has a frozen face, just weird eyebrows like Mr Spock and two sausages for lips. I hardly recognise her. She looks tragic.