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To expect my parents to continue to pay my children’s school fees?

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I88l · 06/12/2023 21:44

We couldn’t afford to send our children to private school but luckily my parents stepped in, and offered to pay for their school fees. We sent all 3 children to a private school at a combined cost of £90k. However, my parents can no longer afford to pay for their fees.
https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/parents-pay-kids-school-fees-out-money-2792093

My parents pay £90k a year for my kids' school fees - now they're out of money

A mother of three tells how her parents have got cold feet about funding their grandchildren's education - and she now feels stupid, resentful and heartbroken

https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/parents-pay-kids-school-fees-out-money-2792093

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VainAbigail · 20/08/2024 08:43

For anyone who wants to read the article:

My parents pay £90k a year for my kids’ school fees – now they’re out of money
A mother of three tells how her parents have got cold feet about funding their grandchildren's education - and she now feels stupid, resentful and heartbroken

‘We do the extras – the school trips, uniforms and that sort of thing – but they cover the fees’

Grandparents across the country are helping to pay their grandchildren’s school fees, according to new research. The survey from wealth management firm Killik & Co found 18 per cent of parents with children attending a fee-paying school had received help from their parents, in order to pay for private education. Lucy Fisher tells i about how relying on her parents for financial support has taken a nightmarish turn.*
My husband and I have three daughters – they’re in Year 12, Year 9, and Year 7. They have all been at the same wonderful independent school in London since they were seven and are all really happy. The school has impressive resources for music, art, and sport, and it achieves really good academic results. The girls have loved the small, intimate feel of the school, and they seem to be thriving. The eldest got 8s and 9s in her GCSES.
But we don’t pay the school fees – my parents do. There’s no chance my husband and I would have even glanced at private schools otherwise, because we have a combined household income of £93k before tax, which is the same as the total cost of the girl’s school fees per year. The school costs £10k per term per child, which makes it £30k a term total, or £90k for the year. So, it would be totally impossible for us. We do the extras – the school trips, uniforms and that sort of thing – but they cover the fees. I am so incredibly grateful to my parents for what they’ve done for us.

When I had my first daughter, they told us they’d like to pay for her private education. I was thrilled. I went to a private school from the age of seven, and I enjoyed it, and made friends for life. My husband was more tentative, as he was nervous about whether that would grant his in-laws choice or say over the school we chose. Also, he went to a state school and comes from a lower-income household, so he was worried our child would become posh and entitled, asking for ponies and expecting five-star holidays because all her friends might be in Barbados for Easter holidays. I assured him it would all be OK, if we found the right school, and it has been.
In fact, my parents provided no comment at all on school choices, and none of our girls have turned out to be spoilt. They have a very privileged school existence, but they know that most children don’t get that, and are mindful of that.
When I had my second, and third, child, my parents said they had the funds to pay for their fees too, and we felt that if we could give all the girls the same, that would be amazing. I did question their offer, and talk it through with them properly, as I wanted to make sure they weren’t going to end up depriving themselves of anything. I also told them we were OK to have just one girl at private school, and the other in state school, if they couldn’t manage all three. After all, they might not have known we’d end up having three children.

They assured me it was what they wanted to do, and that they felt no obligation, only desire to help. My parents have a lot of money, and have been frugal with the sums they have. Their assets are down to a combination of a large inheritance, excellent and lucky investments in the 80s, a huge London house they bought in the 70s, which they’ve sold and made a big profit on, and my dad having had a high-paying finance job. Instead of passing it down to us after death, making it liable to inheritance tax, they decided to spend money on our children’s education, to see the benefits of it while they’re still alive (and only in their early seventies). They also have no other grandchildren and won’t have any, so they’ve focused their money on my three kids.

Here’s where it’s all become intensely stressful and difficult. Earlier this month, my dad dropped a bombshell and told me that essentially, he and my mum don’t have enough money to keep paying the fees for all three girls for the next academic year and beyond. There are complex reasons for this, but some of it relates to investments, and the fact they actually didn’t really portion enough out for care, and now my mum is in early stages of Alzheimer’s and my dad is panicking about future help he may need to pay for. It also turns out that £90k a year for several years has taken a bigger hit on their savings than they imagined, and in general my dad’s got very cold feet about carrying on. He was massively apologetic and upset, and I am starting to think he hadn’t really considered what older age could look like for him and my mum. He’d always been the, fit, energetic, skiing type as had mum. Now things are changing and they’re not feeling so invincible, perhaps.
Whatever’s going on, it’s been a massive shock to my husband and me, and I’ve barely been sleeping since he told us. We’ve kept it from the girls while we try to figure out what this means for them. I am both furious with my parents, and at the same time guilty for feeling like that, because they’ve been so generous and they mean so well.
I also feel stupid for having been so reliant on their finances, and perhaps not asked more pertinent questions about the future. I can’t see any other options but to take the girls out of school, but I am so worried about how this is going to massively disrupt the girls’ educations, exams, social lives, everything. My husband and I can’t manage these fees ourselves – maybe we could do the eldest’s as she’s only got a year left, but certainly we couldn’t manage any more than that.
We’re now frantically ringing up, and talking to local schools to see if they have spaces, and trying to work out how it could all work, whether they have the kinds of options for exams our girls are interested in doing, what sort of environment will be right for them. I am so worried about how they’ll adapt to a big, more anonymous school, where they’ll be far more left to their own devices and have less attention. I know there are lots of incredible state schools, I just feel that the transition might be really tough, especially with not much notice.
We will tell the girls what’s happening very soon, but I’m putting it off. I’ll have to talk to them after Christmas and explain the situation. I feel heart-broken about it, and also about the resentment I feel towards my parents, who I know don’t deserve it. Perhaps we should have sent them to a normal school all along, and stayed within the limits of our own finances. I’m saying all this because I know lots of people whose parents or in-laws pay the school fees, and while grandparents’ generosity is amazing, it can also go wrong.

We can't afford to keep our daughter in her £18k-a-year school

As Labour pledges to impose 20% VAT on fee-paying institutions, squeezed parents are getting priced out. One mother speaks to the i about the impact on her family

https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/cant-afford-daughter-private-school-2642065?ico=in-line_link

HowIrresponsible · 20/08/2024 08:20

Well then why do people drag up fucking zombie threads

Boo hoo kids have to go to state school. Sure they'll be scarred for life.

Zonder · 20/08/2024 08:06

HowIrresponsible · 20/08/2024 07:47

This article is old hat. 6th December it's dated. I remember seeing it months ago.

To be fair, you're the one that's a bit late! The OP posted this thread on 6th Dec, the day the article came out.

HowIrresponsible · 20/08/2024 07:47

I88l · 06/12/2023 22:08

I just wanted to get people’s thoughts on the article.
It’s a tough one to judge because the article doesn’t go into much detail about the specific circumstances that led to the GP offering to pay the school fees. It only offers the perspective only the mother, but what stood out to me was the expense of the school fees: £90k for 3 children. It works out to roughly £360k per child; surely there were cheaper options the parents could have selected, which might have avoided this nasty situation.
Prehaps the GP should have offered to continue to pay a portion of the fees for another year, whilst the parents find a suitable school for their children.

This article is old hat. 6th December it's dated. I remember seeing it months ago.

schnarf · 20/08/2024 07:30

That's insane. 30k X3 for 12 years from grandparents - bonkers.

cognito · 19/04/2024 07:52

OP, £10k per term for independent secondaries is quite standard in London these days. These schools are not cheap!

Why are you so concerned about this article though? It sounds completely made up to me anyway, judging by the way the article is written.

Some people will have GP help with paying school fees. Some people have GP help with buying a house it whatever. Most people do not. I'm not sure why this any surprise to anyone.

Medschoolmum · 19/04/2024 07:48

I do feel sorry for the children. No kid wants to move schools mid way through their education unless they're really unhappy. It isn't easy starting all over again in a completely different environment, away from the friends and teachers that you know. And of course, it would be particularly difficult for a child to have to move in any of the exam years.

Ultimately, though, if the fees are no longer affordable and the school itself can't help with bursaries or scholarships etc, then the children will just have to move to state schools. They will adapt. And, over time, they will no doubt come to terms with the fact that they have been terribly let down by the stupid decisions that both their parents and grandparents have made.

The grandparents should never have offered to pay without properly thinking through affordability in the longer term. The parents should never have accepted the offer without doing due diligence around the sustainability of the arrangement. They have all failed the children, who would have been so much better off if they had all just gone to state schools from the outset. But what's done is done, so they now just need to make the best of it.

Riverlee · 19/04/2024 07:41

The school maybe make to help out with the fees, at least for older child.

Bumblingbee101 · 19/04/2024 07:37

This is from the article.. is this you OP? You mum is unwell and your dad wants it for retirement. I understand its disappointing but children are resilient and your mum & dad's health comes first. What they do with their money is up to them. That is an obscene amount to spend and its fine if its affordable. State schools have produced wonderful and successful people that make this world go round. Everything happens for a reason 😊 if your eldest can finish their I can completely understand that. Perhaps discuss bursaries?

To expect my parents to continue to pay my children’s school fees?
Zonder · 19/04/2024 07:22

I remember this - I did feel sorry for the year 12 girl having to move mid A levels. I thought between the family they should pay for her final year so her 6th form isn't messed up.

The rest of it - nah.

Shaketherombooga · 19/04/2024 07:14

‘There's some unpleasant comments here, some people have no empathy’

i have ZERO empathy on this one. Parents should stop bleating about their poor darlings having to slum it and think about the advantages -
saving money, meeting new friends, meeting kids from the real world, having diverse interesting friends from many backgrounds,
becoming more resilient, having to be a bit more self motivated - no more handholding through everything, experiencing ACTUAL competition - being top of the tree in a school of a few hundred isn’t much to brag about, being picked for the first team because there’s so few other pupils isn’t real competition either - state schools have so much more competition in everything, learning to adapt… I could go on

Shaketherombooga · 19/04/2024 07:08

Obviously move them to a state school. Or find the money yourself. 94% of people use state schools so clearly using them isn’t the calamity some parents using private schools seem to believe.

Bluela18 · 19/12/2023 14:42

They probably ran out of money due to the high school fees. If they can't afford to pay it why should it be expected, where will the money come from

dottiedodah · 19/12/2023 14:35

I think quite often GPs who are wealthy can get a bit carried away when GDC are born .They have already paid vast sums out, and it is hard in the economic climate for everyone .The yr 12 pupil has already had an extensive private Schooling .The yr 7 quite a lot less .Maybe the yr 12 could go into yr 13 with a good college ? the younger two will have to find new schools certainly by the end of Spring/Summer term as well . Your parents have been very generous to you and simply cannot afford to keep doing so .Maybe a Grammar School in the area may have a place spare?

Dweetfidilove · 07/12/2023 11:16

Finteq · 06/12/2023 21:51

If you click and then quickly turn off your wifi/ go into airplane mode you can read it.

May all your wishes come true 👌🏾😀. I’ll never miss a good article again !

TurquoiseSeasAndSilverSand · 07/12/2023 09:03

There's some unpleasant comments here, some people have no empathy. The teenage years can be hard enough, it's a bonus if your kids are settled and happy at school. Making them move and having to scrabble for school places will be hard for them. It's not about having to mix with the "common" folk ffs🙄. None of mine went to private schools or even grammar schools, I don't harbour any resentment towards the children that do, why would you?

Aydahayda · 07/12/2023 08:20

Finteq · 06/12/2023 21:51

If you click and then quickly turn off your wifi/ go into airplane mode you can read it.

Excellent tip!

Zanatdy · 07/12/2023 08:13

There’s not much choice is there? They go to a state school. Mad to think it would cost so much as my DC got top grades at GCSE and A level at a state school. Saved myself a small fortune

BiddyPop · 07/12/2023 08:07

We put dd into private school knowing we could afford it.

My DPs offered to pay (as I was the only DC not getting other help) - DF really wanted to but DM kept quietly putting me off (narc, I'm her black sheep, plenty of money so not scrimping their style).

Because of that, dd is now in 6th and final year and DH and I have paid every cent towards her schooling. Some years have been a stretch but it's what WE signed up for. DPs paying the fees would have been great but it's up to them how they spend their money (and I know that DM rules over DF ).

IncompleteSenten · 07/12/2023 08:01

Oh yes, I read that. The writer does acknowledge she is being unfair to be angry. Which she is.

I suppose it could be more about worrying about her mum's dementia. Sometimes we focus on one thing in order to avoid thinking about what's really upsetting us.

Or maybe it's just bollocks to get people reading and talking about it.

TheFormidableMrsC · 07/12/2023 07:57

Avacardo2023 · 06/12/2023 22:13

I'm sure this story was a thread on MN recently, right down to the three kids and same ages and years.

Came to say same.

If they can't afford it anymore, kids need to be moved to state schools and that's that unfortunately 🤷🏻‍♀️

Gillypie23 · 07/12/2023 06:29

You can't afford it. Send them to a state school simples.

BountySunshine · 07/12/2023 02:44

In fairness to the author I think her reaction furious and shock and guilt would be most peoples in this situation.

No one wants to move schools at short notice. If they had warned them they possibly could have looked at grammar school options for y7 and or 9. Now it will be which school has spaces. They could have done state primary and private secondary if they had known there was only a certain amount of money. (Or looked at cheaper options).

But of course she will feel shock and guilt because she’s also going to feel she shouldn’t have taken this money/realised sooner

Something like this you need to see an IFA, people always forget about care home fees (be that gifting parts of bouses, income etc). It may have been that a lump sum could have been invested.

She needs to speak to the school about bursaries (I’m sure they would get the eldest through at least), they may even get something for all of them. If not she just needs to make the best of it and find spaces in state schools,

Gracietaylor · 07/12/2023 01:08

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Forgottenmypasswordagain · 07/12/2023 00:56

Obviously the grandparents need to sell their home and go rent a cheap room somewhere. Also any other family should do the same. Perhaps they should get dna tests done in case there are some more relatives that they can squeeze a few drops of blood from. Does the family have all their kidneys btw?

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