To feel completely disillusioned with the Labour Party?

Please vote.

You owe it to the women who helped us to be able to vote and all the countries in the world where there is not even democracy.

But if you don't vote then you will get the crappiest party into power and they don't care how they got into power or how many people didn't vote for them out of protest as long as they are in power.

Labour isn't perfect. Far from it. They are going to do a lot of things thst will damage this country but the tories will damage it more. I am not a massive fan of keir starmer either but surely anybody is better than the current bunch of conservatives?

(Well, not anybody. Please don't vote reform either. They are just tories on steroids.)

They can't be pure socialist because they know it won't work and will only result in huge debt. If you want to invest more money in public services you need to encourage and reward enterprise. Where do you think most tax come from? What fuels economy, creates growth and provides jobs? Enterprise.

Have you ever seen purely socialist country that was doing well for itself and its people ? Not one.
It's not just about the votes.

Yep and he's rather a jolly Eeyore!

The one from last March? 9 months ago? Where he's laughing about how his job is like being England manager?

The interview was the high performance podcast.

I've never voted labour before and just might this time, they can't be pure socialists or they will never get the votes to win. What I'd really like is the LD to be a sensible centrist party, not a bunch of student politicians.

Did we ever find out where the interview where he allegedly channelled Eeyore was broadcast?

@Zonder yep, call me cynical but I really mistrust posts like these. Especially knowing how desperate the Tories are. And it's tragic that all they have is 'oh,look how depressed KS sounds' plus a distortion of a newspaper article.

I guess it gives some young Tory staff member something to do, thinking of forum posts to try and stop people voting labour.

Yep! Opening post about something that has been taken out of context & then OP disappears! 🙄

There are so many of them!

This is what the Green Party think of women:

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For all those saying "vote green " the Green Party are now full on gender ideology clowns.

This bloke was a conservative candidate not long ago. Now he has new name, some shoddy wigs & lippy and he's a Green Party candidate.

Vote green my arse.

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The comment about Thatcher was fine. She wasn't the devil incarnate, she was a woman who was wrongheaded about quite a lot of things (but of course you can find some sensible and necessary things that she did too, if you look at all the many different things she did).

You have to remember what she followed.

The comment about Thatcher was fine. She wasn't the devil incarnate, she was a woman who was wrongheaded about quite a lot of things (but of course you can find some sensible and necessary things that she did too, if you look at all the many different things she did).

Your post sounds a bit adolescent, to be honest. He's a grown up politician with nuanced views on stuff, just like most middle aged people.

Never heard Starmer sounding depressed.

Another day, another 'aren't Labour shit, I couldn't possible vote for KS' thread on MN. All while the county falls apart about our ears under the Tories and Labour continues to soar ahead in the polls. I just can't fathom it 🤔.

Can you share where the interview was? I’d like to listen to that.

Which interview was that? I haven't had that impression on any I've listened to.

Mind you, he's being given a poisoned chalice. He will inherit a massive mess and when he doesn't wave a magic wand and sort it out in the first 6 months he will be branded a failure.

It will take a long time to pick up the pieces of the last 14 Tory years.

I hate the Tories more than I support Labour so I'll vote Labour. Lib Dem's teamed up with the Tories, I'll never forget that.

I listened to a long interview with Starmer recently and he sounded very very depressed, I'm not convinced in his longevity as party leader, I'm voting for the local candidate who I know works hard, tries to help and tries to understand the bigger picture, he happens to be Lib dem and I have no idea who the other candidates are, if he was labour, green or conservative I would still vote for him.

Neither have I. Some people really seem determined to read what they think he meant, not what he said.

Starmer bashing has become quite the sport on here. If it's not what people think he's said or hasn't said, it's the manifesto (which hasn't yet been published), or his voice, or his background, or his lack of charisma.

Not to mention beer, curries and whether he knows what a woman is.

And 'but Angela Rayner'.

Just vote for whoever is most likely to beat the Conservatives in your constituency.

Tactical voting in an election after our longstanding MP died meant the LibDems won what had been considered a safe Conservative set

If you've read what Starmer said then YABU. If you've read what others say he said, and swallowed it, then still YABU. If you want to continue the cycle of defunding and dereliction embarked upon by what currently passes for a government than I wish you joy of it.

I'm voting lib-dem because our local candidate works his backside off as a local counsellor, I have no clue who our labour candidate is.

I agree about significant change in economy and public services but what would change is that we would have a semi credible leader who has values, acts with integrity and is intelligent. He is strategic. His training means he has the ability to articulate himself well. He seems compassionate. After the string of self serving, law breaking, corrupt aresholes we have had recently I’m up for all that.