To think the rich/poor divide is so unfair

The cheapest way to get an education so you can get a better paid job and improve your situation it to get on an apprenticeship where you are paid while you train in a skill.

I think it’s more a case of fortunate birth and unfortunate birth? I grew up around money but my childhood was no picnic. Try and develop some interests, work hard at something you enjoy, keep your body healthy, self care. I live a less affluent life now than I did as a child but my lifestyle choices are considered and meaningful. Oh and read! Educate yourself, take yourself out of yourself if that makes sense. Good luck ❤️

This thread was always one big pity party. A lot of us have hard lives. O- inherits a large six figure sum and blows the lot. Life choices.

I grew up on a council estate with divorced parents, I was sexually abused when I was a child and raped when I was a teenager. I have dabbled with drugs in my younger years and worked low paid jobs that kept a roof over my children's heads.

OP I mean this in the nicest way but chances won't come knocking, you have to make them. I went on every training course I could in work and ended up in a managerial position, I never would have dreamed that I could have done this years ago. I now own my own home and earn above the average wage for my area and live quite comfortably. People would look at my children and think they've had it easy compared to a lot of others but that's due to the fact I wouldn't give in and settle for less for them. Many of the people who you see with a privileged life haven't been born into it, they've made that life for themselves. I watched my father come from absolutely nothing to go on to earn over £100k a year. Similarly my mother took the woe is me attitude and is still in the same place feeling sorry for herself and hard done by.

There are ways out OP. It isn't easy. You have to set your target, focus and don't get side tracked.
I had an abusive df, who objected to the education of women, nasty, controlling, violent.
But with the help of a couple of determined school teachers, I escaped, have a degree, a career, a home, a son I adore, independence.

Life leaves its scars, I'll never trust a man or share my home with a partner, but my life is soooo much better than my mum's, and my ds' childhood is far happier and more secure than mine.
He will have a decent life. I'm happy with that.

Op Yanbu at all and many with privilege will never recognise it
I think though you can put different spin on it. I had a horribly neglectful and shit childhood. My parents didn’t give a fuck about me as a child or an adult and it absolutely put me behind my peers- while my friends were learning to drive and going to uni, I was trying to put a roof over my head. As a middle aged woman I have now gained a degree, skills and other qualifications but I’ll always be behind my peers due to the huge impact my childhood had on my confidence and ability to put myself forward for things.
On the flip side, having such a shit time of it has made me resilient in other ways and as an adult, be able to stand strong against the knocks I have had. Despite lacking in confidence I am resourceful and positive which makes me incredibly grateful for the small things I have in life like a safe and secure home and my health.
i think you get bitter or get better- my parents ruined 18 years of my life and I refuse to give them any more

Don’t just assume affluent = no stress/trauma. My parents are exceptionally well off and I was lucky enough to go to uni and get an excellent job etc etc but my trauma is off the scale. Abusive childhood from an awful dad and a mum who swept everything under the carpet, alcohol abuse, falling into abusive romantic relationships etc. i know it’s harder having these issues and coming from poverty too but trust me, having money didn’t soften the blow of trauma. As my 4 therapists in the past 10 years would tell you.

Well this escalated quickly...

It doesn't matter how many times you say it you're not Dming the company name, you're showing off your salary you were or weren't really paid 20 odd years ago. Which is of NO USE WHATSOEVER. Go on m tell me a fifth time you're taunting her with the number on a payslip and vague TEFL stuff without the company name!

Then you go and try and dig dirt on mumsnetters as your true motivation of trying to Lord it over someone has been revealed! Can't argue the point so resort to stalking behaviour!

Bad character alert.

Anyway I won't engage further. My point has been made and evidenced by you.

Bye eee!

I would like @mnhq to check for socks oht of sock drawer now actually 😂

What weird behaviour @macrowave, do you research mumsnetters! Get a life!

Yes, I suppose I am sweet but I think you're stalking behaviour is weird and nasty.

Believe what you like. My parents hadn't even met in 1978.

For the third time, OP is welcome to DM me if she's doubting my nóminas or wants more specific advice about TEFL stuff.

I do think it's kind of sweet that you've made a new MN account just to defend the OP of this thread - everyone needs someone in their corner.

@macrowave.

I'm sure OP doesn't want to see your old nominas to taunt her, she'd rather the company name that you said you wouldn't give her! It's actually laughable. She doesn't need you to prove how great you are that you managed to find someone that paid you that, she needs the contact that could potentially improve her life. But you just want to prove how inferior she is to you with your bloody "nominas."

Sickening.

OP has done all that vague stuff. Why won't you offer REAL help and advise which company paid you this elusive salary?

It's because you wanted to kick someone when they were down and accuse her of creating "a self-pitying thread," isn't it?

You made it up or are talking about something you did in 1978!

So disingenuous.

I rest my case. I called it in my other post.

Life can be unfair, although that's not to say those with comfortable upbringings never have their share of problems.

Please do keep looking for a supportive friendship group. People who live in what you might describe as comfortable settings will not all look down on you or suggest your job is rubbish, so please be open minded. Find a hobby you enjoy and reach out to people through that.

Reread the last paragraph of my post, in which I have offered some concrete advice. I've also said I'll PM her my old nóminas if she really wants them.

If she wants more: the best time for TEFL recruitment in non-English-speaking countries, if you're interested in going down that route, is usually June - July for September. You can often find last-minute vacancies in early September too.

Late December/early January you'll find some jobs available, but beware - these are often openings created after teachers have dropped out, and can indicate potential workplace problems.

TEFL in English-speaking countries like Ireland doesn't follow the academic year; there are usually more temporary vacancies in the summer, but most academies need teachers all year round. At least when I was working there, many of them had four-day weeks as standard.

Plus she could DM you who said about public posting. This poster proved my point to a tee.

You are willing to give your salary to prove what a loser she is that she can't find a job with the same salary, but you won't give a contact that would REALLY help her!

Or she made up the salary to kick you when you were down OP, one of the two!

And there you have it folks "why should I", please she my above post!

@macrowave
is willing to kick someone when they are down and criticise but when it comes to offering REAL help. Nah.

Why don't you leave OP alone and take your superiority else where.

Why should I? I'm happy to send OP screenshots of my old nóminas with identifying details retracted, as she clearly doesn't believe me, but if you think I'm going to publically post which companies I've worked for, you'll be waiting a long time.

Something that might help the OP: many years ago I worked in TEFL in Ireland, so this info might be out of date, but it was pretty well-paid. Academies need qualified teachers in order to offer non-EU students visas. This means that legally you must have a CELTA, TESOL, or CELT (I wouldn't recommend the latter due to lack of international recognition); online certs won't do. Like I said, I made good money and had comfortable hours. It was a while back so I can't comment on the current climate, but could be worth looking into. Certainly more potential than yet another self-pitying Mumsnet thread...

@SWSO This is spot on. I moved to a really nice area and they do indeed profile you. I was even told they do this! I do not have "the accent" they have and I notice they question you at first, but then never want anything to do with you after they have made up their minds about you and barely even greet you afterwards.

I also agree with you regarding promotions. It's usually nepotism and who they like rather than who is great at the job.

As everyone has said life isn't fair though, so you have to carve out your way.

@macrowave Yes could you please give specific details of the company that you worked for that paid this salary?

Like I said I think OP needs some hand-holding and support, she sounds lonely, lost and vulnerable. It's all very well fit a bunch of people on the internet to tell her to get a grip etc, but some can't do it alone. General vague advice is usually because people aren't willing to be generous with contacts or specific advice that will actually get you there or perhaps they don't know how they would navigate being in OP's position themselves.

Like I said OP vague anecdotes and well I did it so you should be able to won't help you, as it's too nuanced. Try your hardest to get a professional or charitable service to support you to the end goal. Rather than someone saying "just do tech."

Galicia and Catalunya. Even when I worked in the south I made 1400€ (these sums are all net btw).

When I first started out I was taking home 2300€ but that was in the days of the Zapatero govt. Never came close to it again even after gaining more experience, but equally I don't know anyone who would settle for 800€ a month!

This ☝🏻
If you choose to perceive yourself as a victim in a situation where you received great privilege the only barrier to improving your life is you. Not poverty. Not society. Just you. The first steps to meaningful change are recognising you need to change and then taking responsibility for making those changes.

Hang on a minute...

I've just been served an old thread from last year about inheriting a large sum of money and frittering it all away. It looks as though you are the OP.

By all means, have a whinge about the rich/poor divide not being fair. Neither is inheriting a significant six figure sum, when others can only dream of that kind of money.

Life is not fair. You had a rough start, but you also had an incredible amount of luck in inheriting that kind of money. That you frittered it away may or may not be down to poor choices as a result of poor upbringing, but, man, that was one big leg up you got there. Sometimes you have to own the choices you make and you can't blame anyone but yourself for poor decisions.