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AIBU to think you should feed guests if you've invited them

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Lizziebest · 02/12/2023 14:52

Visiting in laws today on a planned visit initiated by them. ILs are a bit odd about food and seem to eat tiny portions only in allocated slots e.g don't do lunch but breakfast at 7am and dinner at 6pm with coffees in between. When I've mentioned this being odd in the past they offer the thinnest sandwich I've ever seen so have given up trying to explain I think this is bonkers.

Usually I manage this by eating a lot before going but with a toddler and a baby I didn't eat any breakfast this morning. DH prepared all of the toddlers lunch and I didn't ask him to pack me anything. We arrived at 2. I'm starving. DH doesn't think this is weird and doesn't eat a lot himself but is happy to buy me food before and after. Sorely tempted to eat the left overs from toddlers fruit lunch and snacks.

Is it rude to pop out to the high street eat something and come back.

Aibu to think you feed people who you invite over?

I'm also breastfeeding!!

OP posts:
coxesorangepippin · 02/12/2023 15:36

I'd basically take a picnic with me

Stop trying to be be polite

WinterDeWinter · 02/12/2023 15:35

There’s no circumstance in which I wouldn’t offer some kind of sustenance to someone who has travelled to see me. Literally none. Surely it’s how you show your appreciation of their effort? Mumsnet is so odd on this issue, in RL it’s basic a basic global rule of hospitality no matter how poor.

CaineRaine · 02/12/2023 15:35

ShippingNews · 02/12/2023 15:30

This. You knew what to expect but you didn't eat anything, and didn't ask your dh to pack you something when he was making food for your toddler.

This, plus she turned down the offer to stop and get food on the way 🤣 I’m struggling to see that the in-laws have done anything wrong as it’s no different to what the OP should expect based on past experience. Therefore it’s on her to feed herself (which to be fair she has acknowledged already).

abominablesnowman · 02/12/2023 15:35

Unless you're explicitly inviting them for a meal I wouldn't usually think they would need to provide food.

Added to that, you know they eat very little and yet still expected feeding. Take your own sandwich.

SouthLondonMum22 · 02/12/2023 15:35

LolaSmiles · 02/12/2023 15:32

2pm is after lunch so no i wouldn't expect to provide anything more than biscuits at that time.
You know you're breastfeeding
You know you'll be hungry
You know you didn't have breakfast
You know they don't eat

Agree with this.
I'd not expect to be feeding people who arrive at 2pm unless they were staying for dinner. I'd have some biscuits to go with a cup of tea or coffee though.

This whole thing seems to boil down to "adult didn't eat properly and is annoyed different adults didn't think to feed her mid afternoon".

Exactly this.

ApoodlecalledPenny · 02/12/2023 15:35

I remember taking secret oatcakes to my in-laws when I was breastfeeding as they served such small meals. I’d feed the baby while eating them.

I think some older people just have much smaller appetites. My in-laws are lovely (and do often offer cake and biscuits). I was just ravenous 😂

thebestinterest · 02/12/2023 15:34

Love, you really need to take ownership over yourself. you know food is an issue at their home, so why aren’t you going prepared?

Yes, if you were invited to mine I’d have offered you something to eat, specially if it was pre planned, but I don’t think everyone does that.

I wasn’t a huge snacker before I had a baby and was breastfeeding, but now I am, and I always, always make sure I’ve eaten or have snacks for me and my toddler available. What everyone else does is t of my concern!

You have to be prepared. What if your car broke down and it was hours before help arrived?

Lizziebest · 02/12/2023 15:33

CurlyhairedAssassin · 02/12/2023 15:29

We drove past a McDonald's DH offered to stop but I stupidly said no not wanting to be late, with no plan on dealing with the hunger later.

Not wanting to be late for what? It wasn't lunch, clearly, as you said they don't usually have it. So what were you worried about being late FOR?

They are very strict about arriving at the time that has been requested and are a punctual family. I guess they don't want us to be late so we can all sit and chat while everyone's ignores my running tummy.

OP posts:
autienotnaughty · 02/12/2023 15:33

I wouldn't expect to be fed at any time if I was going for a short visit. So if I was arriving at 2 and leaving at 5 I'd eat before I left and when we got back . If I was arriving at 2and staying overnight I'd assume there would be an evening meal

Begsthequestion · 02/12/2023 15:33

If one of my guests expresses hunger at any time of day or night in my house, I offer them food. I thought that was normal?

I either make them something, offer snacks, or if it's an overnight guest/someone I know well, I let them know where the bread/butter/cheese/salad/jam etc is so they can help themselves to tea and toast or a sandwich outside of meal times. I usually keep non-dairy substitutes in the cupboard too in case they're needed. I can't understand how a host would be okay with hungry guests!

If they were pregnant/breastfeeding/diabetic/had any particular need to eat regularly that I knew of, I'd make doubly sure to stock up in advance with snacks if I wasn't planning on cooking.

This way of thinking actually helps me keep a decent stock of easy to prepare food in the cupboards, which really helps ward off the temptation to get a takeaway when I'm really tired.

OP you are not being unreasonable by having normal human needs. Go get yourself some food, and don't worry about what your lax hosts think - they are aren't worrying about you!

I do think it's a bit strange that your husband doesn't offer to make you anything or mention to his parents that guests need feeding. I would have thought that he would feel comfortable enough to make food in their kitchen for you, esp knowing this is a repeat occurrence.

UsingChangeofName · 02/12/2023 15:33

Do people here not remember what it was like with a baby (and a toddler too)?

Yes, which is why I know I wouldn't have left the house without eating in the first place, and that I would always have things like cereal bars in the pram bag, and that I wouldn't have turned down the offer of stopping off for food before arriving.

LolaSmiles · 02/12/2023 15:32

2pm is after lunch so no i wouldn't expect to provide anything more than biscuits at that time.
You know you're breastfeeding
You know you'll be hungry
You know you didn't have breakfast
You know they don't eat

Agree with this.
I'd not expect to be feeding people who arrive at 2pm unless they were staying for dinner. I'd have some biscuits to go with a cup of tea or coffee though.

This whole thing seems to boil down to "adult didn't eat properly and is annoyed different adults didn't think to feed her mid afternoon".

WinterDeWinter · 02/12/2023 15:31

I do think that lots of this mad shit is a bit like the reverse of a fairy tale where if you say it out loud, the goblin appears. Once someone has been brave enough to name it, it loses all its power / just goes ‘pouf’.

Behindyouiam · 02/12/2023 15:31

@keye I would assume that anyone that's a guest in my home is given exactly what they need. Particularly a breastfeeding mother and a toddler.

To not even ask is in my opinion rude and unwelcoming.

ShippingNews · 02/12/2023 15:30

arethereanyleftatall · 02/12/2023 15:01

This problem was caused entirely by you not eating breakfast or lunch before 2pm.

This. You knew what to expect but you didn't eat anything, and didn't ask your dh to pack you something when he was making food for your toddler.

leilani83 · 02/12/2023 15:30

Do people here not remember what it was like with a baby (and a toddler too)?

Lizziebest · 02/12/2023 15:30

Wendysfriend · 02/12/2023 15:19

I hate this, sitting there starving. I feed everyone who visits, whatever the time I make something suitable, I would absolutely die if someone was sitting there hungry.

People are busy rushing around with young kids, sometimes there's not enough time to make food and eat before you leave to visit someone. You'd at least expect a biscuit and cuppa when visiting.

I have relatives like this, they'd invite us over and nothing... absolutely nothing offered, they'd delay their dinner so as not to feed you. We'd offer to buy takeaway etc but they don't eat "unhealthy food" like this, so when I use to visit them I'd stick bars of chocolate in the baby bag and eat them in the bathroom 😳, I'd pretend to be changing one of the kids nappies 🤣 it was just to take away the grumbling in my stomach. Now I just don't visit them.

Wendy this really made me laugh as I'm scoffing a panini in the street. As pp have been keen to say yes this is definitely my own fault and the result of bad planning but sometimes the day can run away from you.

I would have been happy to host too but they don't enjoy visits- probably all the food I offer and enjoy.

I think I am just shocked by the miserliness of it tbh. I know if I arrived at a friend's house having missed two meals I would say immediately "I'm starving let's order something" and would be happy to pay because it's my fault for missing meals.

If I suggested that here they would just be so awkward and weird about it and make it seem like id suggested something so alien.

It just made me wonder how many people routinely don't offer anything to guests.

OP posts:
Sirzy · 02/12/2023 15:30

So you didn’t bother to feed yourself but then get annoyed with them for not feeding you?

away from traditional mealtimes I wouldn’t expect to be fed.

keye · 02/12/2023 15:29

Behindyouiam · 02/12/2023 15:27

@keye they are grown adults that understand that they've invited guests to their home? If I invite guests to my home, I make them welcome, I ask what their needs are requirements are. They won't be the same as mine, but they'll be accommodated, because they're a guest in my home.

Of course OP could've brought a meal, done a roast etc, do you think the ILs would welcome that?

I'm not suggesting OP should make a roast dinner? Where are you getting that from?

I'm saying OP is the most responsible out of everyone involved for her own eating.

She chose to skip breakfast, then lunch and turned down a McDonald's.

So while it would be nice for the in laws to offer something, at 2pm i would assume any grown adult, particularly a breastfeeding one, had eaten something

gotomomo · 02/12/2023 15:29

Arriving at 2 I wouldn't expect to provide a meal until 6.30/7 for guests but would provide a snack eg bake a cake. If people wanted lunch I'd expect them to be arriving around midday

CurlyhairedAssassin · 02/12/2023 15:29

We drove past a McDonald's DH offered to stop but I stupidly said no not wanting to be late, with no plan on dealing with the hunger later.

Not wanting to be late for what? It wasn't lunch, clearly, as you said they don't usually have it. So what were you worried about being late FOR?

MrsKeats · 02/12/2023 15:28

My in laws are like this.
We usually go to a drive through on the way home!

WinterDeWinter · 02/12/2023 15:28

arethereanyleftatall · 02/12/2023 15:01

This problem was caused entirely by you not eating breakfast or lunch before 2pm.

Nein. The problem was caused by her selfish ILs inflicting their own disordered eating, in which food consumption seems to be inversely related to moral value, on others.

Just say it out loud @Lizziebest

‘right then, like most people I eat at lunchtime, and you’ll be aware that this is all the more important because what I eat affects the baby. We were travelling at lunchtime today. If there’s no food available , we’ll need to go out and get some - shall I go or can someone else?’

Behindyouiam · 02/12/2023 15:28

keye · 02/12/2023 15:25

@leilani83

I wasn't saying it's infantalising to offer food, I'm saying it is infantilising to suggest they are more responsible than OP for ensuring she eats.

It's their home, it's their guests.

They are supposed to be entertaining?

Notcontent · 02/12/2023 15:27

What I find odd is that you can’t just ask to help yourself to some food. When I am staying with my parents I don’t even need to ask - I just eat whatever and whenever I want to (except obviously things set aside for a particular meal).

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