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AIBU to think you should feed guests if you've invited them

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Lizziebest · 02/12/2023 14:52

Visiting in laws today on a planned visit initiated by them. ILs are a bit odd about food and seem to eat tiny portions only in allocated slots e.g don't do lunch but breakfast at 7am and dinner at 6pm with coffees in between. When I've mentioned this being odd in the past they offer the thinnest sandwich I've ever seen so have given up trying to explain I think this is bonkers.

Usually I manage this by eating a lot before going but with a toddler and a baby I didn't eat any breakfast this morning. DH prepared all of the toddlers lunch and I didn't ask him to pack me anything. We arrived at 2. I'm starving. DH doesn't think this is weird and doesn't eat a lot himself but is happy to buy me food before and after. Sorely tempted to eat the left overs from toddlers fruit lunch and snacks.

Is it rude to pop out to the high street eat something and come back.

Aibu to think you feed people who you invite over?

I'm also breastfeeding!!

OP posts:
UsingChangeofName · 02/12/2023 16:54

I agree, if I had guests arriving at 2pm and they'd travelled any distance, then I would know they'd travelled over lunchtime and probably wouldn't have eaten, and would check

People are making up their own narrative here.
OP might live 10 mins from her in-laws.
I'm pretty sure if she lived 2 or 3 hours away, she would have mentioned that.

It still doesn't negate the fact that she knows there won't be food there before the evening meal, and she still chose to turn up at the house, not having eaten anything that day despite all the options she had.

StrawberryJellyBelly · 02/12/2023 16:53

Wouldn't matter what time of day or if it was a planned visit or unplanned, you would always be offered food and drink in my House

Mine also. No one would ever go home hungry, thirsty or feeling as If they weren’t worth something to eat.

MercyIsEliminated · 02/12/2023 16:51

I always offer something to guests, a meal (no matter the time of day) or a snack of some kind if they don’t want a full meal. I think it’s partly cultural (Jewish), feeding people is so deeply ingrained in the culture. Not because it’s “good manners” but because it’s an expression of hospitality and care.

Since you know about your in-laws’ habits, it really is your responsibility to fend for yourself. I’m glad you have fortified yourself with a panini, banana, etc. but I’m shocked you ate them in the street! 😲 (Just kidding about that, in previous generations eating in the street was considered the height of bad manners. A silly rule that I hope has been abandoned by most.)

AlPacinosHooHaa · 02/12/2023 16:48

Can't you take food with you and just make it there?

Noicant · 02/12/2023 16:47

If I had family visiting I would have assumed they would eat something while there and would have something in regardless of whether I was eating or not or what time it was.

I don’t eat breakfast but I appreciate everyone else does. If someone was breastfeeding especially I would have made sure I checked to make sure I had in something she would want. I think thats just being hospitable.

Pluvia · 02/12/2023 16:44

Differentstarts · 02/12/2023 16:41

Why are people on mumsnet so uncomfortable at their friends and families homes. Can't you just go make yourself a sandwich or something

Op has explained that her MIL doesn't want her in the kitchen: even offers to refill water bottle for her so that OP doesn't go into the kitchen. And OP's parents are hot on punctuality and stopping at MDs would have made them late.

OP, you say your husband is amazing, but why didn't he, seeing how busy you were getting the children together to go on the visit, make some sandwiches for you in the car? So many people here blaming you for not looking after yourself, but who's looking after you?

Panicking23 · 02/12/2023 16:42

I'd hate for any family member to sit in my house starving! Every visitor is offered tea/coffee/biscuits. Family members and friends are thankfully comfortable enough to either help themselves to anything or mention they're hungry and we'll always make a sandwich/toastie or bring a meal forward if they're staying for it.

FourteenTog · 02/12/2023 16:42

Do they eat garlic? Where are mirrors placed in their household?

Differentstarts · 02/12/2023 16:41

Why are people on mumsnet so uncomfortable at their friends and families homes. Can't you just go make yourself a sandwich or something

flowerchild2000 · 02/12/2023 16:40

Always! I make or buy something special for guests, no matter the time of day. It's called being hospitable. I wonder if your in-laws have trouble affording groceries? If not their eating habits do sound strange. If I'm hungry while out I will eat my kids' leftover snacks! It's easy to forget to eat when you're taking care of young children.

Birdcar · 02/12/2023 16:36

I think they are being very inhospitable. They can eat whatever they like but you are an invited guest. They know don't fast 11 hours during the day. They should have had food for you.

EsmereldaTheThird · 02/12/2023 16:32

What’s with the secret eating on this thread when you’re at the in laws houses? DH and I eat a lot in the morning and don’t normally have anything until 6pm earliest but we don’t expect visitors to do the same. We must be odd as when our children/their partners arrive I’ve always made food so it’s there if they want it. It doesn’t take much to rustle up a sandwich and make a pot of soup. I’d be mortified if anyone was having to hide snacks or food for fear of being judged for eating in front of us.

Sadandhurt23 · 02/12/2023 16:31

I was going to post the same question. We've been to friends houses for drinks but it's been just that, not even a sniff of crisps or nuts. If we ever have people over for drinks, I always offer. little spread of something, I think it's weird not to.

Pluvia · 02/12/2023 16:29

Lizziebest · 02/12/2023 15:03

I think I'm shocked because in my family anyone who arrives at anytime is offered something and it's considered bad manners if you don't.

Obviously it depends on the time of arrival e.g if arrived close to dinner a drink, nuts, crisps ordered.

After lunch maybe a coffee?

I'm shocked, too, on your behalf. Even if I knew you'd had lunch before coming over I'd offer you tea/ coffee and cake or biscuits — I mean, you're a valued guest in my house and it's my job as host to make sure you are comfortable, not your job to fit in with my bonkers non-eating regime.

This is what hospitality is about, surely? As soon as anyone enters my home, gets their coat off and settles down, the first question after the lovely-to-see-you stuff is 'Now, would you like a drink? Have you had lunch? I can make you a sandwich or toast or there's cake/ biscuits...'

Your in-laws clearly have issues around food anyway but were they brought up by wolves? This is not how you treat guests. Yesterday it was toddlers being starved all afternoon, now it's you who's breastfeeding. I'm stunned.

daisychain01 · 02/12/2023 16:29

Next time they invite you over, I'd make up a full roast dinner with all the trimmings in microwaveable containers and ask to heat it up in the microwave, Then pull out plates and cutlery and dish it all up and eat it.

only half kidding ....

i can't imagine not giving guests food if I'dinvited them for a visit, commensurate for the time of day, but then again there are some bloody weird people I read about on here who are either tight as a duck's proverbial or lacking in the most basic of social skills (or both).

YireosDodeAver · 02/12/2023 16:29

Lizziebest · 02/12/2023 15:49

Okay an update

I have eaten a panini and a packet of crisp and a banana (in the street)

I've also popped in to sainsburys and bought 2 full bags of food and snacks enough for me and toddler. I don't think I can cope with sitting in front of them and eating (as much as I'd like to show them the normal appetite of a breastfeeding woman) I'll just go in the bedroom and sort myself out under the guise of feeding the baby. I've got enough to keep me going until and after the tiny dinner.

I can guarantee there will be an odd atmosphere about me eating even though it will not have impacted them in anyway- they are playing with toddler and DH has the baby. It won't be comments which can be responded to fairly easily but an undertone.

Well done.

No lie. If you are breastfeeding then feeding yourself is part of feeding your baby.

SequentialAnalyst · 02/12/2023 16:26

These differences in household schedules, hospitality etiquette, and unspoken household rules are often the source of difficulties in relationships.

For instance, guests never wash up in my house. But that was the norm in Lovely Man's house - the guests washed up as a thankyou. As I am not the most aware of people, it might take me some time to realise that I had transgressed some rule that was simply taken for granted. (I usually did eventually, and usually sorted it!)

Add in the fact that the other household is that of your in-laws, and I would agree that never going unprepared on a visit is the best way of tackling this. I suppose at least there is a kind of unspoken shared assumption that those who set the rules for their household are the ones who should say what goes.

The problem is when the household rules do not include varying mealtimes, or offering food to hungry visitors. BrewBrewCakeCake

Draconis · 02/12/2023 16:23

Should say food weirdness

Draconis · 02/12/2023 16:22

What is all this good weirdness?
If someone was visiting me, I'd have food for them depending on the times.
It's usual to skip a meal due to lack of time when you're rushing to go somewhere so I'd always check if they were hungry at 2pm.
I'd actually ask and say "have you had lunch?"

If not, then I'd give them something.

rasellagirl · 02/12/2023 16:20

Definitely weird. I’m always thinking about the next meal.

Crunchymum · 02/12/2023 16:19

There is no way when I was BF'ing I'd have been able to forgo breakfast or leave the house for the afternoon without snacks. Especially not when I was visiting people who don't feed me. I'd have packed a bag full of HobNobs and Kettle Chips (my BF'ing faves!)

I know it's tough with a toddler and a baby but how can you miss two meals? 😕

Glad you've eaten now.

thing47 · 02/12/2023 16:17

Always tea, coffee and soft drinks on offer here 24/7. But if I invited guests for 2pm I wouldn't be serving lunch, nor would I be expecting any if I was invited somewhere at that time. I would see that as a time deliberately chosen so as not to include lunch, sorry.

What I actually think is much odder is being expected to adhere to some strict arrival time when you have a baby and a toddler to manage and there are no particular time-dependent plans anyway. Bollocks to that.

Kisskiss · 02/12/2023 16:16

If you arrive at 2, expecting lunch, that’s really unusual in most households.
They do seem to have a pattern for being inhospitable to guests but not offering lunch for a 2pm visit is probably quite normal!

AgreeWithPP · 02/12/2023 16:15

How long are you staying? If overnight I can understand the groceries, but if only a day visit I would find it bizarre if a guest needed to go out for a food shop just after arriving.

You were invited for after lunch time (in most places), and will be getting dinner (even if inadequate by your standards), so there should be no need for a whole song and dance about buying food. I get that you are hungry, but that is on you, not them.
I always have biscuits etc and would offer food if people happened to come over during a mealtime/are invited for a meal. If I specifically invite someone for 2pm/8pm without saying it is for a meal and they arrive starving I would not be impressed.

SutWytTi · 02/12/2023 16:15

WinterDeWinter · 02/12/2023 16:09

Neuro diversity aside, it’s a mark of basic kindness and a globally accepted social norm to offer someone who has travelled to see you a snack just in case they are hungry. They can always refuse and it doesn’t have to be fancy. Some toast, biscuits, crackers and cheese, that kind of thing.

The alternative means that you don’t care if your guests are physically uncomfortable in your house, which is pretty awful and the opposite of kindness/hospitality.

I agree.

If I knew I was visiting food-withholding weirdos I would pack a hamper, but I would always offer someone food if they had travelled. Even people from round the corner get offered biscuits etc.