Teachers presents - class gift

Again when parents opt out and do not wish to be included, you cannot write their child’s name on the gift.

I think there's a difference between writing all the children's names, and writing "from year 5" or "from your class" etc.
If one parent didn't want their child included, it might still be a pain in the arse to have to write out 29 names rather than just write "from year 5".

I think people have got collection fatigue...pre COVID in my work place if someone left you would sign a card and put some money now it's a collection for big birthdays, bereavements, leaving does, Christmas - and the amount is sometimes actually specified. So I think people are just getting a bit hacked off with more collections...

Or else just give what you have collected from the entire class.

I’d message the Year Group, say you didn’t think the collection through, perhaps you organised too early, perhaps not everyone wants to donate, perhaps some want do their own thing and you think it better now to return the money to those that did donate and everyone decide what to do themselves.

I'm of the opposite opinion. My fiver will go much further combined together with everyone else's contributions than me buying something the teacher might not even like.

I'm also fine with vouchers being bought. Far better for the money to be used helpfully than not.

We send home a label to each family so the parent/child can write their own message and sign. Then the labels get stuck onto a large card or piece of card.

The card is from everyone no matter whether they contributed to the present but of course if they don't want to be on the class card they can just opt out by not returning it.

DS is in Y6 and it's worked well every Christmas and end of year!

The woman who even in your own posts never forbid anything or even remotely mentioned a moral objection she simply brushed you of with a COMMON phrasing for those who can't afford to contribute

Read again. She did.

Teacher here...please don't stress it. We do really love cards made by the kids and a box of nice chocs or a bottle of wine is enough. And what ever you collect just split it equally between all the staff. We all work hard and so do our support staff.
I have truly never expected anything but donations of wine are always welcome 😁

The woman who even in your own posts never forbid anything or even remotely mentioned a moral objection she simply brushed you of with a COMMON phrasing for those who can't afford to contribute.

Also writing 'from class 5' does not violate anything, he child would not be singled out and named ffs that the whole point.

I’m talking about the woman who does not contribute to our school collections.

Do keep up if you are going to reply to me personally.

I’m also not stupid enough to undertake a class collection. But I’m very grateful to the woman who does because it is much easier to put a fiver in instead of buying a gift card which would cost me a lot more.

What wishes?

No one has said to OP 'I am morally aghast at this concept, it violates my deeply held religeon... do not add Timmy to the card'. You have ENTIRELY made that shit up in your head.

Putting 'love from class 5' on a card is in no way violating beliefs.

'the poor sod' lol.

The person who took it upon themselves to shake virtual strangers down for money... poor sod indeed.

Get of the Martyr high horse, you are not the victim.

So ignore the parents wishes and give in their name anyway?

No way.

It has.been dealt with years ago. I taught in Scotland and we are not allowed to accept expensive things. If a pupil tries to give one it has to be noted even though it was not accepted. I can hardly believe what the English system allows.

Then parents should reply to the poor sod trying to organise the class collection that they don’t want to contribute. The organiser will know not to proceed with it and people can do their own thing.
It’s not difficult.

I disagree with financial bullying and manditory expectations yes. I also disagree deeply with the exclusion and segregation of children based on their parents or finances.

You CLEARLY failed to read the post where I have given gifts in the past though lol.

I have the capability to think beyond myself though (something many here lack) and think the excluding children because they disagree with their parents is acceptable which frankly makes them assholes.

Yes but a class gift is from the CLASS.

You can do a class gift and Timmy can STILL give his own mug too... what you can NOT do is exclude little Donald because his mam couldn't afford £5.

People can not be struggling to grasp this which means its active heartlessness.

A class gift is from the 'class', its not from these 10 parents in the class who chose to pool £10 each to gift a £100 gift... thats not a 'class' gift and its not about parents.

If only 10 people contribute, only 10 names should be on the card.

But if you believe that why don’t you approach the school principal and request an email is sent to all parents saying gifts won’t be accepted this year as it’s inappropriate in a cost of living crisis?

And why haven’t you done this before this year?

It’s very very easy to have this implemented.

That's true, you know. I keep the cards and reading the.messages and signature brings my pupils back to mind years later
That' s more personal and meaningful than an expensive present, especially if parents feel under pressure.
I have to say that it is an appalling idea to give a present and card signed only by those whose family has contributed. Some people really are in abject poverty these days and don't need to have their child singled out.

This person doesn’t. She has told me and others that she does not think teachers should be given gifts.

They disagree with the concept of teacher’s gifts. They do not want to contribute.

The mother has told numerous people this.

In the WhatsApp group she ignores the requests. When she meets the people organising the gift, she tells them she will do her own thing. Which is nothing.

It would not be right to include her son when she has said she does not think and agree with giving teachers gifts.

It’s always worked really well for me. Chuck in a tenner and some poor gullible soul organises gifts for multiple teachers/ TAs. Apparently they bought 8 gifts last year! I have no opinions about what they buy or how the money is divvied up.