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Sister wants £20 limit "per household"

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ImTheGoat · 27/11/2023 08:25

My sister doesn't earn a lot of money and has asked that we set a limit of £20 "per household" for Christmas presents this year. AIBU not to want to do this?

It's just my sister and our parents plus me and my husband. Sister lives alone. So according to the rules she's suggested I can spend £10 on each of my parents but £20 on her.

I don't care at all about the value of presents I receive however I like to treat my parents at Christmas. Nothing outrageous, usually about £30-£40 each person. My mum has had a bad year health wise, she's elderly and I don't know how many more Christmases she's got. I usually get her a couple of books she requests plus another little something. She doesn't have a lot of money to spend on herself so I ask her what she would like and get it for her. Then I try to spend about the same on my dad and sister so it's fair.

DH and I exchange gifts separately at home so that's not an issue. And if my sister didn't want to spend much herself that's totally OK and not a problem. I've told her I'd be really happy if she made me something- I suggested some biscuits for my husband and me as a household and my mum and dad have said the same.

The problem is when she emailed to request this £20 per household limit I emailed back immediately and agreed because I don't want her to feel uncomfortable. Now I'm regretting it. AIBU and what should I do?

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housethatbuiltme · 27/11/2023 09:37

Also if my sibling was worried about fiances and I knew they where panicking about gifts I would tell them don't worry about getting me a gift.

Or if I knew they would INSIST on it tell them you are cutting back on clutter and suggest something pretty cheap and consumable that you want... maybe like one of those big toblerones or a body spray that can be got for £3-£4.

Riverstep · 27/11/2023 09:36

Just do the £20 with your sister and buy everyone else what you want.

SawX · 27/11/2023 09:32

I think you need to be more sensitive to your sister’s financial situation and keep to the £20 household limit as agreed.

Why should the OP's parents miss out because one of their children is on a low income?

Nothing would stop me treating my mum after everything she's done for me.

Redburnett · 27/11/2023 09:31

You have agreed it so stick to it. Changing your mind after confirming in an email will cause more upset.

BarbaraofSeville · 27/11/2023 09:31

A lot of all this uncertainty can be avoided by picking up the phone and speaking to each other or if you live nearby meet in person. Emailing is ridiculous.

But on the matter of presents. She can't expect to have any say about what happens between you and your parents. There's nothing wrong with you spending more on them than she does if you want to and can afford to and likewise there is nothing wrong with her spending less, especially as you say she doesn't have a lot of money and lives alone, so she is paying all household costs from one income.

However, she should be able to be able to choose how to spend her limited disposable income on you and your parents and it is also reasonable to make this known in advance, in case you also want to stick to the same budget so you don't make things awkward by spending more than she does.

Or you could, radically, decide not to exchange gifts at all. Because even at £20, you either risk spending money on things that aren't wanted, or you have to get into the ridiculous charade of sending each other links of what you want as a gift and when you get to that stage, it's totally pointless and you might not bother and just buy the thing yourself.

AdoraBell · 27/11/2023 09:30

I second saying you have already bought for your parents.

housethatbuiltme · 27/11/2023 09:30

I never get all this gift giving bullshit... its made so commercial and heartless when people do this.

No gift giving has a budget dictated by others... buy whatever you want and can afford too.

Someone saying 'you must spend £20 each on my 3 kids' or someone saying 'you can only spend £10 on your parents' doesn't matter... they don't control YOUR budget.

I would spend like £15-£20 on family in the past, many of those family members (like male siblings) spent £0 on me and thats absoloutly fine... it never needed discussing. I buy the gifts because I want too.

Nofilteritwonthelp · 27/11/2023 09:30

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 27/11/2023 08:30

I’d propose secret Santa to spend £30
on one person.

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InSpainTheRain · 27/11/2023 09:28

I'd say agree with your sister that between you both it is 20 per household. But what you spend on your parents is up to you.

Petitedress · 27/11/2023 09:28

OP, spend whatever you want on your parents. Don't give presents in secret like what other posters have suggested. Suggest to your sister that neither of you should give each other presents this year.

MzHz · 27/11/2023 09:25

Just do what you want, stick to the the limit for her, but buy what you want to buy for your parents and say you’d already bought parents’ gifts.

or plead ignorance or that you didn’t read the email well enough or forgot.

Whowhatwherewhenwhy1 · 27/11/2023 09:25

Reply to her and say you are not willing to limit what you spend on your parents but are happy to forgo gift giving between your household and hers if that makes things easier for her as there is nothing you really need or want.

Mountainhowl · 27/11/2023 09:24

I'd message and say that you're happy to limit it to £20 between yours and her household but you don't want to do this for others.

Me and my brother have a kind of similar arrangement, we are both fairly skint and so we do presents for each others kids but not each other/our partners, I still buy for my mum & dad as usual, I have no idea how much he budgets for their gifts and he doesn't know what I spend

CleverLilViper · 27/11/2023 09:23

She can’t dictate what you choose to spend.

Absolutely reasonable for her to set expectations now between you both but not for what you choose to get your parents.

I understand that she may feel the pressure to compete but honestly- you’re all adults. It’s not a competition.

Id just send a clarifying email that you’ve agreed to the limit between you and her but not to the limit between you and your parents as you’ve already bought.

Don’t try and be “sneaky” with it as that will just ensure that this continues to happen when you don’t want it to.

Twiglets1 · 27/11/2023 09:22

I think you need to be more sensitive to your sister’s financial situation and keep to the £20 household limit as agreed.

You could always cheat a bit by buying your mum a non Christmas gift in the new year “just because “… but right now the most important thing is for your sister not to feel worried about not being able to afford Christmas or feeling bad if she gives everyone smaller gifts this year.

Surely you can give your mum other gifts after Christmas without your sister even knowing, if that’s what you want to do.

SawX · 27/11/2023 09:20

howsaboutit · 27/11/2023 09:03

I also agree with this. When I was single I’d buy separate gifts for my brothers and their partners and for my Mum and step-dad but wouldn’t receive as many gifts back. I’d have a gift from “mum and step-dad”, a gift from “brother and partner” etc. Of course everyone says you don’t gift to receive but if you’re short on cash and buy gifts as you feel you have to, it does sting a little to have spent relatively more than most and end up receiving the least!

But it was your choice to buy presents for individuals. After the first year you should have bought them joint presents.

SunshineAutumnday · 27/11/2023 09:18

Maybe you could suggest your DS puts her £20 per household for your parents to you and you buy the presents from both of you - with her adding £20 contribution that she can afford.

As someone who has a sister that ALWAYs has to get the better present, spend more money, advises there's a budget and ignores it. ALWAYS without fail highlights that she is better daughter at all times. It's very tiring and annoying. I refuse to have any part of it.

PaterPower · 27/11/2023 09:17

Can’t you give your parents some of their presents earlier, when she’s not there? Or after she’s left?

That would make her feel a little less like you’re trying to out-do her, whilst ensuring you give what you’d like to.

Thegoodbadandugly · 27/11/2023 09:14

Maybe she doesn't have much money, give your parents what you want to give them then give your sister £10.

margotrose · 27/11/2023 09:12

What you spend on your parents is none of her business. If she wants to limit herself to £20 that's up to her.

HamsterBanana · 27/11/2023 09:11

I'd do it so she doesn't feel bad, but I'd also secretly gift your mum & dad the extra presents and ask them to open when sister isn't around. I'm sure they'll understand. X

StaunchMomma · 27/11/2023 09:10

I think I'd accidentally-on-purpose misunderstand and just stick to £20 for her gifts.

Get whatever you want to for your parents, it's not her business what you choose to gift them.

Imagwine · 27/11/2023 09:09

shepherdsangeldelight · 27/11/2023 08:59

Present buying is annoying if you are a single person.
Potentially your sister has to buy 4 presents (both parents, you, your DH) and she'll only get 2 presents back (one from each household). I know gift giving is not meant to be reciprocal, but you do end up spending more than anyone else in this arrangement.

I'd suggest the best option in your situation is for you to tell your sister that you want to spend more on your parents so suggest that you don't buy for each other/get token gift and put the difference into nicer gifts for your mum and dad.

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Namechanged0987654 · 27/11/2023 09:08

“Happy to do £20 between us yes. Only got your present left to sort now - already got for mum & dad. See you soon!”

EmpressaurusOfCats · 27/11/2023 09:08

howsaboutit · 27/11/2023 09:03

I also agree with this. When I was single I’d buy separate gifts for my brothers and their partners and for my Mum and step-dad but wouldn’t receive as many gifts back. I’d have a gift from “mum and step-dad”, a gift from “brother and partner” etc. Of course everyone says you don’t gift to receive but if you’re short on cash and buy gifts as you feel you have to, it does sting a little to have spent relatively more than most and end up receiving the least!

Yes. I usually buy joint presents for couples since I know they’ll give me a joint present in return. It’s fairer.