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Terrified of HIV, please help

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Terrified12 · 24/11/2023 10:59

I had unprotected sex with someone I was dating in January 2-3 times, however he didn't ejaculate inside me. I have since lost some weight and noticed that I am getting more frequent episodes of genital herpes and it just struck me that it could be due to HIV. I have a test booked for this afternoon, but I feel sick, I'm shaking, constantly feel like I'm going to be sick, can't concentrate on work. I'm 45 and a single mum. Somebody please help.

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jvandussen · 24/11/2023 18:50

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olivialennox · 24/11/2023 18:48

I’m a little shocked that he chose to still have sex with you, even after you disclosed the herpes? And to suggest no condom? That’s bizarre, unless he is also sick?

Not bizarre at all, I have a close friend who was diagnosed with genital herpes in her late teens and she’s had no problems at all with dating and relationships over the years, as well as getting married and having kids. It has never been an issue.

I have oral herpes (cold sores), I’m very unlucky in that I can get frequent outbreaks and have needed to manage it with medication in certain periods of my life.I have always been open with partners about this and the importance of not kissing (or other contact) when I have a sore or can feel tingling/itching coming on. There is still a tiny risk of passing it on but nobody has rejected me because of it.

SquirrelMadness · 24/11/2023 18:31

So many people have said on this thread now that herpes is often asymptotic, lots of people carry it without knowing. Condoms don't prevent transmission of herpes and herpes isn't included on the standard panel of STD tests. So a lot of people are putting themselves at risk of catching herpes when they have sex, even when they do wear a condom. Some of the people who are posting judgemental comments on this thread might have herpes without realising.

It's like people are just determined to post judgemental, uninformed comments for the sake of it.

jvandussen · 24/11/2023 18:22

It looks like somewhere he manipulated you,by not using condom.

He is at risk too if you had herpes and vice versa.

Condoms are not sold without reason.

Go off sex for 6 months and test three times or more with your GP.

olivialennox · 24/11/2023 18:21

Well most people with genital herpes in the UK are doing precisely nothing to prevent spreading it… because they’re not aware they have it.

Since OP is in the small minority of herpes carriers who are aware of their condition, she will be aware of when she is showing symptoms and has also said she was taking medication. The chances of her passing it on to this man are very tiny, even with no protection being used.

Most genital herpes is spread from those who are not aware they are carrying the virus, symptoms aren’t noticeable in most people and a ‘full STD’ screening from the NHS does not test for this. To be honest not many adults can really confidently say they absolutely don’t carry the virus, it’s extremely common and extremely undetected.

thebestinterest · 24/11/2023 18:12

Terrified12 · 24/11/2023 11:56

Thank you the kind reassurances. I do have health anxiety which I need to address. Incredibly stupid not to have used a condom, but it was a combination of me having disclosed about the Herpes, taking suppression treatment at the time and him not wanting to use a condom.

💔 oh, Dear! Holding you in light, OP.

I’m a little shocked that he chose to still have sex with you, even after you disclosed the herpes? And to suggest no condom? That’s bizarre, unless he is also sick?

Please know that you can live with that (Hiv) desease… it’s not a death sentence.

ToughTitty · 24/11/2023 18:10

Great news you're negative :)

Screwballs · 24/11/2023 18:07

Pudmyboy · 24/11/2023 17:50

Actually it does, it's part of the risk assessment for PEPSE.
And please, you and others, please stop stigmatising herpes, it's not a dangerous or life threatening condition unless you are immunocompromised in which case it joins the long list of things that are dangerous in that case.
See herpes virus association UK
https://herpes.org.uk/ for good advice on this

Oh, well that's OK then, as long as it's not life threatening (to the majority of people of course, sod the others), you go ahead and share the love.

How utterly irresponsible. No one should be knowingly spreading STDs. If you are having casual sex, bloody well wrap it up.

VanityDiesHard · 24/11/2023 18:06

ChilliNoodleGoodness · 24/11/2023 12:06

He is probably going through the same stress having probably caught your herpes.

OP disclosed, and he still didn't want to use a condom, so that's on him.

jemenfous37 · 24/11/2023 17:53

Apologies

Happy to be corrected

Greenshake · 24/11/2023 17:53

@Pudmyboy well said!

Pudmyboy · 24/11/2023 17:50

jemenfous37 · 24/11/2023 11:43

Ejaculation makes no difference. But if you have herpes, why have unprotected sex? Did you tell the person?

Actually it does, it's part of the risk assessment for PEPSE.
And please, you and others, please stop stigmatising herpes, it's not a dangerous or life threatening condition unless you are immunocompromised in which case it joins the long list of things that are dangerous in that case.
See herpes virus association UK
https://herpes.org.uk/ for good advice on this

https://www.facebook.com/Sphere-233891323398947/

The Herpes Viruses Association helps to get your head around genital herpes. "The information was clear and reliable - read it"

https://herpes.org.uk

TheRealLilyMunster · 24/11/2023 17:41

I used to be a dental nurse, and we were always taught that if you got a needlestick injury with an HIV infected needle, there was a 1 in 300 chance you would contract HIV.

It's not a very robust virus, and it's not that easy to catch. Try not to worry too much, and get the test. If you don't want to go to the GP, go to the SH24 website who send STD test kits to you through the post, including finger prick blood test kits for HIV.

If against the odds you were to contract HIV, it is extremely likely that it would not shorten your life as there are very good drugs available to control it now.

No more unprotected sex though. Think about yourself and your kid.

https://sh24.org.uk/sti-test-kits

STI Testing Information | SH:24

With our STI test kits, you’ll take some samples from parts of your body at home. Free, discreet and get results by text message.

https://sh24.org.uk/sti-test-kits

viques · 24/11/2023 17:34

Consideringachange2023 · 24/11/2023 17:31

@viques she had disclosed her herpes status, maybe you missed that bit.

She didn’t lie or omit anything or have sex without informing him.

So yes whilst she should have used a condom because it’s just the best option outside of a monogamous relationship, suggesting she absolutely has to use a condom because she has herpes, when she had fully disclosed her position to the other fully consenting adult, is just an underhand way for you to have a dig

Yes I saw that, and that he didn’t want to use a condom. But I think it is about responsibility. If someone got in your car and said they didn’t want to wear a seatbelt it is your responsibility ( legally as well) to say they have to, I am not having a dig btw , I am raising eyebrows at the irony.

Consideringachange2023 · 24/11/2023 17:31

@viques she had disclosed her herpes status, maybe you missed that bit.

She didn’t lie or omit anything or have sex without informing him.

So yes whilst she should have used a condom because it’s just the best option outside of a monogamous relationship, suggesting she absolutely has to use a condom because she has herpes, when she had fully disclosed her position to the other fully consenting adult, is just an underhand way for you to have a dig

viques · 24/11/2023 17:00

I think it is a bit ironic that you have a condition which can be spread by sexual contact but didn’t insist on using condoms to protect him, but are now ina bit of a flap in case he has a transmittable condition too. I know you said he didn’t want to use a condom, but quite honestly, you should have insisted , both to protect your self, and to protect him. I hope your test comes back clear, and I also hope you take more care of yourself in future encounters of the sexual kind.

Epidote · 24/11/2023 16:45

Glad to hear you are clear of the virus.

Kissmystarfish · 24/11/2023 16:34

olivialennox · 24/11/2023 16:31

Or never… since the vast majority of people who catch the genital herpes virus don’t actually realise they have it.

‘Full’ STD screening on the NHS also doesn’t include testing for it.

Since OP is aware, taking suppressant medication and aware of when she is/isn’t showing symptoms then she is a very low risk of passing it on even without protection. The people spreading it the most are those who are unaware they carry the virus and miss the signs that they are infectious.

♥️♥️♥️♥️. Spot on!

olivialennox · 24/11/2023 16:31

Kissmystarfish · 24/11/2023 14:31

Herpes can take 10 years to show up.

Or never… since the vast majority of people who catch the genital herpes virus don’t actually realise they have it.

‘Full’ STD screening on the NHS also doesn’t include testing for it.

Since OP is aware, taking suppressant medication and aware of when she is/isn’t showing symptoms then she is a very low risk of passing it on even without protection. The people spreading it the most are those who are unaware they carry the virus and miss the signs that they are infectious.

BeverleyMacker · 24/11/2023 16:19

Great news op xx

TheMerryWidow1 · 24/11/2023 16:10

great news op

oakleaffy · 24/11/2023 16:10

Alleycat1 · 24/11/2023 11:45

Surely condoms should always be used as you have genital herpes? According to a GP friend the virus can be active even when lesions are not present. Using condoms protects both you and your partner.
Good luck for this afternoon.

This...Condoms always -for everyone's protection.
Hopefully not HIV, but it's not the death sentence it was.

Skyecat · 24/11/2023 16:00

ToughTitty · 24/11/2023 14:19

@Skyecat it's nastier on the genitals because it recurs more frequently and studies have been done that show it is more severe (from the studies below)

Recurrence of genital herpes averages 0.33/month with HSV-2 disease, but only 0.02/month for HSV-1 genital disease

The findings suggest that the infection with genital HSV-1 is quite different than genital HSV-2, as it is substantially less severe both in terms of recurrences and shedding

@ToughTitty I don't disagree that genital HSV2 infections involve more asymptomatic shedding and recurrences than genital HSV1. Just saying genital HSV2 isn't any "nastier" than oral HSV1 in terms of the above. Two thirds of HSV2 carriers are asymptomatic or have symptoms so minor that they go undiagnosed, whether that involves outbreaks on the actual genitals or elsewhere below the waist (all still considered genital HSV).

There are lots of distraught newly diagnosed people on the internet and I just think we should be careful with the language we use.

I'd be wary of some of the US HSV studies. Some of them are funded by/linked to big pharma companies selling aciclovir.

Anyway, OP, I hope you do manage to get to a GUM clinic, where you can get tested and get peace of mind by talking about your worries with the nurses and doctors there. All the best.

Ohthatsfabulousdarling · 24/11/2023 15:59

porridgeisbae · 24/11/2023 15:55

@Terrified12 We knew it OP. x

When you meet your future husband, shag him as much as you want after your wedding day. Smile

PP's who went on about how treatable HIV is were unnecessary IMHO. That would still have made OP worry she had it, when in all likelihood she could've just had reassurance she was unlikely to have it.

When your catastrophising, its not just the initial fear, your minds going to a horrible death, probably before children are grown.
The mind goes to strange places...and part of therapy, atleast that I've had, the objective was to picture what the thing was I was catastrophising about, but then work through the underlying fears, then it's not half as terrible when the fear reappears.

Sadly with health anxiety, even that negative test may not keep OPs mind convinced she's negative once and for all, but how easily treatable it is, maybe provide longer term comfort to her mind.

porridgeisbae · 24/11/2023 15:55

@Terrified12 We knew it OP. x

When you meet your future husband, shag him as much as you want after your wedding day. Smile

PP's who went on about how treatable HIV is were unnecessary IMHO. That would still have made OP worry she had it, when in all likelihood she could've just had reassurance she was unlikely to have it.

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