Laurence Fox libel trial

The best thing about all of this is that he also has another upcoming case where he's suing someone for saying he's racist. I wonder if you can just enter a defence of 'please see LF's other case, no further questions'

where's braindrops? 😉ironic that name btw

@Delightfuldays you’ve literally just spent the last how many pages tying yourself in knots to avoid admitting that posting a swastika is always unacceptable…🤦🏻‍♀️

Ok😉

But is it? It could be ironic?

That's perception for you

What???
Calling someone a Nazi apologist is offensive.

‘The only time Laurence Fox was ever going to play Batman was up a crane, waving a banner saying SHE WON’T LET ME SEE THE KIDS’

😅😅😅😅

‘I'm not a Nazi apologist. Do not call me that. It is extremely offensive.’

NOW you’re offended??😅

I see we move in the same circles 😁

these were pure gold

https://twitter.com/MitchBenn/status/1729812226217759116

https://twitter.com/GBNews23653867/status/1727456120862601430/photo/1

Oh, how delightfully naive of him. Not.

He knows perfectly well that there is nothing OK about posting a swastika, there is no way that he believed that it could ever be anything other than deeply offensive. Having had a rather expensive education, it is also impossible to believe that he didn't know that the Nazis persecuted gay people including the use of torture, the death sentence, and imprisonment in concentration camps where the majority died.

It's not "bad taste" and it's not remotely supportive of Pride. It's horribly homophobic and transphobic.

This is getting a bit reminiscent of Johnson supporters who used to paint themselves regularly into corners where their only defence against accusations that he lied was to say that he genuinely believed what he was saying. Yes, both Fox and Johnson supporters are apparently perfectly happy to depict their heroes as utter fools in order to avoid facing the reality of just how horrible they are.

Twitter at its absolute finest. Up there with Wagatha Christie 😂

My point wasn't about bringing the profession into disrepute; it's just to say that posting a swastika brings about negative consequences. Fox can't really complain about losing opportunities and popularity - anyone posting that would face consequences. That it would be disciplinary in professional workplaces just illustrates that it is a serious matter, and everyone is well aware of that. And it's treated so seriously for a reason - the connotations of the swastika are shocking to anyone decent.

Blatantly she didn't shut him down, as he interrupted her. The colour of his skin was 100% relevant to his assessment of whether racism is a problem in the UK. Anyone would be entitled to be concerned that a while male cannot give an accurate view on black people's experience of racism. If LF had been able to give a logical, reasoned response on why he claims to believe that that concern would be misplaced, I'm sure everyone in the studio and indeed the wider audience would have been happy to hear him out. The trouble is, he didn't make any effort whatsoever to do that.

What you say is true, though I’m not sure it would result in instant dismissal. Possibly a disciplinary depending on the job. But I don’t think that’s the point really. LF isn’t a professional. If he has some unsavoury opinions, does it matter if he brings the acting profession into disrepute?

Do I think the pride swastika is abhorrent? I wouldn’t say that. Horrible, crass, offensive yes. If he was actually a Nazi or was proposing some kind of persecutory ideology I would find it abhorrent.

I'm not a Nazi apologist. Do not call me that. It is extremely offensive.

@TheOtherSideOfTheStory yes that's it 🙄

Or you've run out of ways to defend racist actions.

Fox can say all he likes that he's not a homophobe or a racist. That's his view, but it's not actually his decision, because in presenting all of his idiocy to the work, people will make their own judgment. He can't complain, because the option was clearly not to do any of these things at all. He enjoys being contrary but rejects the obvious consequences as to how he is perceived. Ridiculous

I just can't be bothered to carry on with the discussion as people start being rude and nasty.

I haven't changed my name at all.

‘Ms Skinner asked if it was offensive when Fox posted photographs of himself and his children 'blacked up' with a face app.’

fucking hell. I see why Billie keeps the kids away from him as much as possible.
Imagine THAT being your dad.

‘just said I didn’t think his intentions were racist (or homophobic for that matter)’

he's both. He knows it, you know it, I know it.
He doesn’t care. It’s not illegal to be racist or homophobic or even such a twat that your twatyness is visible from space- you only get in trouble when you start trying to harm others…