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To take my toddler to a psychologist

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Whyisitsosohard · 19/11/2023 08:40

I acknowledge my 2.5 YO is what most MN users would consider naughty but everyone I speak to in real life says her behaviour is typical for a toddler. My biggest concerns are her hitting (me, her sister, the pets) and bedtime refusal.

She doesn't nap and is exhausted by 7 but she shouts and screams every time we try and leave the room. We've had the same routine since birth. Invariably I lose my temper after 12 hours of being shouted no at.

We struggle to implement consequences because there's nothing she cares about us taking away (tv, toys etc). We explain every time why hitting is wrong or why she needs sleep. Her communication is excellent so I don't think that's what's frustrating her. We praise good behaviour all the time so it's not as if we're always telling her off.

Nothing has changed recently and nursery haven't said they have any specific issues but always refer to her as headstrong, spirited etc so I'm sure they also find her a PITA at times. I want her to grow up to be a kind person but I'm scared she's walking all over us.

My therapist is also qualified in child psychology and has offered a joint session. Aibu to accept?

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TotalOverhaul · 19/11/2023 09:00

Headstrong children need a different approach - one that is softer on the outside but actually has them playing into your hands.

Never use punishments (eg taking toys away) as that will only make them care less about things.

Instead, create a bond that appears to them to be equal in status but actually gets her behaving as you want and need. E.g. When she is in a calm mood, say, casually, 'I've been thinking. I know you don't like napping and that's fine but it does mean you get tired later in the day and we all end up shouting at each other which is sad. So we need to find the best way for you to have a cosy rest so you don't get too tired. What do you think would work?'

Listen to her answers and always say, 'Oh yes, that's a nice idea/fun idea.' If they are preposterous, just say, 'Wouldn't that be great?' then suggest making a cosy corner for her with blankets, cushions, cuddlies, a picture book, a small snack and drink etc and suggesting that she just settles there whenever she feels cross or sad or overwhelmed. If she resists the idea, ask what would work better for her - a little den or a rocking chair etc. Make it a joint project. Involve her in the decisions - which cuddlies would be there? Which blanket? etc.

If she hits anyone, say, (not as a punishment!) 'That's not like you. You are not a cruel girl. Go and snuggle up in your cosy place until you feel calm again. When you feel nice again come back to say sorry and have a hug.' That way you are reinforcing the idea that she isn't a hitter, rather than that she is.

This approach is really scoffed at by loads of people, but it teaches headstrong children how to self-regulate their emotions. It worked like a dream on DS1 and he was one of the most headstrong children I have ever met. He is the most laid back adult I know.

Thanksforreading · 19/11/2023 08:55

When you say your therapist is also qualified in child psychology, what do you see them for? No judgement, I saw a few people from the age of 15 to 30 years old but not feel like I’ve had to for the last 8 years.

I mean I think every mum could agree having a 2.5 years toddler is tough! They test your mental and physical strength hourly… literally, as I have typed that my child has just pushed the dining room chair into the kitchen and is now standing on top of the chair, trying to grab oranges out of the fruit basket… she’s also 2.5 years old.
I have to say, and I do believe our toddlers am much better behaved at nursery, and I do believe that nursery staff have a lot more patience than I personally do! We struggled with biting and hitting, she was called out twice for biting another toddler at nursery, we have now replaced the biting with hugs… weirdly she only bit people she loved… and I’m not too sure where she got the idea biting people close to you. She stopped tv or screen time, and the hitting stopped a few days after. I use to have it on for when I cooked and did laundry, now I just get her to wash veggies when I’m cooking (I guess it’s technically water play with veggies in her eyes) and load and unload laundry when I’m hanging stuff up. The sleeping… I can’t give you much on that as I cuddles mines to sleep then roll out when she’s asleep. I know… but I can’t get out of the bad sleeping habit I created!
I don’t think there’s any issues with seeing a child psychologist, I would also love for you to do an update once you do you see her with your toddler and tell me if you think it makes a difference. I would be so tempted to see want too if you feel like it helped.

Whyisitsosohard · 19/11/2023 08:54

I very rarely shout.. by lose my temper I mean that I'll say that's enough and threaten something that invariably I don't follow through on (I know I know..). I don't think we're consistent but her dad and I are together and try not to undermine one another's approaches. Of course she'll say I want daddy or vice versa if she's not getting the response she wants. Plus all the usual time wasting. I want water, I want the toilet, I want another book etc.

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mynameiscalypso · 19/11/2023 08:54

I think the session might be useful for you in terms of skills/strategies to manage her behaviour but the behaviour in and of itself sounds extremely normal.

Wolfiefan · 19/11/2023 08:52

I would focus more on strategies to help you deal with the behaviour.

CeilingWacks · 19/11/2023 08:52

There's not a huge amount of point in imposing consequences on a toddler - such young children don't have much control over tantrums/meltdowns. A lot of walking away whenever possible, plenty of positive attention when she's calm, and make sure you're modelling "good behaviour" yourself.

A family counselling session wouldn't do any harm, but it would probably be more for your benefit than hers.

Summermeadowflowers · 19/11/2023 08:51

I would take a lot of MN advice around parenting toddlers with a huge pinch of salt.

I think in recent years on here there has been a push back against gentle approaches to parenting and a very authoritative sort of approach has crept back in. I know a lot of toddlers and they all present challenges. It won’t be anything you’re doing, but posts on here can get you anxious and questioning yourself.

Quartz2208 · 19/11/2023 08:50

I think a joint session would be useful to help you with ways of dealing with her. Why the sane routine though since birth - what is it she sounds v overtired and then you shouting as well can’t help.

Sirzy · 19/11/2023 08:49

I think looking into support with the sleep via a sleep therapist instead. At two I don’t see what could be achieved by a psychologist realistically

AbbeyGailsParty · 19/11/2023 08:47

I don’t think one joint session with your therapist can do any harm but 2 and a half is very young, the terrible twos are a real thing, so don’t go looking for any deep, permanent problems. What can seem unreasonable, worrying behaviour in a 2-3 year old often disappears ( I had that with one dc and don’t get me started on a dgc! Now the gentlest, most respectful, polite teenager but as a 2 and 3 year old…………)
It’s possible you’re not as consistent as you think you are so dd is finding ways to chip away with what you think is a strong front.
Are you and dad together?

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