To disagree with Children in need

I’d rather higher taxes to pay for adequate services, that’s higher taxes on a sliding scale. Inheritance tax doesn’t need to be cut for example or cooperate tax cut, they could be used to find proper adequate service for children in need, rather than these children services begging for money

How is helping children outdated? I'm confused.
I don't watch the show so perhaps it is stuck in the 80s.

I what sick world is it "trolling" to state an objection about a "national treasure"?

It's outdated and I find it cringy. I haven't watched for years.

I donate to charities in my community. I don't need preaching to.

‘Disagree with’?

Do you mean you disapprove of it?

To me your post illustrates why, when it comes to things that human beings actually need, leaving it up to charity is inadequate.

Charity's fine for the nice extras that make life more pleasant, or for heritage railway preservation or donkey sanctuaries or whatever. But when charity is used to supply actual human needs, it lets society off the hook when it comes to providing for the needs of those with less captivating stories, less sympathetic circumstances, and less appealing faces.

Nobody should have to parade themselves and their stories in front of the local parish Charitable Women's Hoity-Toity Assistance Board like some kind of modern day Inspector Calls scenario, but in a system like that, those with a heartrending story — which they have to reveal to all and sundry to get what they need — aren't even the worst off. Some people whose need is just as great will lose out because their plight doesn't tug the heartstrings in the right way.

Any system of supplication to charity, rather than entitlement to assistance, is demeaning to the "lucky" recipients, and cruel to those who don't happen to have the characteristics that catch the attention of charitable hearts.

When there are dozens of charities that people can be signposted to, most of which can't help, it disguises the fact that the provision people are entitled to as members of our society is inadequate, and forces them to become a beneficiary of others' charity rather than claiming their fair dues.

That's very noble but naive. But you won't raise any money unless people feel for whoever they are giving to. And you won't achieve that unless you tell them their stories.

That's why all charities tell the "stories" of the people they are raising money for. And they also do similar, for slightly different reasons, on shows like X factor. It draws people in emotionally.

Personally I think it's great that there are charities to fill the gaps in government provision and help children albeit at the loss of some privacy for them (with their parent's consent). There is no money in the government's coffers. And people don't want to pay more taxes. We are in an appalling state economically as a country and likely to be for some time. We don't have enough money to pay for adequate care for people and services generally are massively underfunded. No extra money is coming to kids in need from the government anytime soon. What do we to, tell them to wait. Sorry no you can't have get wheelchair or adaptations or whatever that you need or would improve your life, because of some moral high ground. I would rather be practical. Get people what they need and vote and/or lobby for change later.

I hate the fact the country is in such a state, these poor children are suffering because of it. It's shameful. Hate seeing kids suffer.

As someone who works in the charity sector for a small local charity, although I don’t watch children in need (I never have) I just wanted to point point that Children in Need don’t just support charity that help children with medical conditions.

The argument that it should be a fully funded service provided by the government is probably true, the government wouldn’t fund our crèche service at our community centre for example, therefore we need funders such as Children in Need to be able to provide this service for our community in need.

Also these funders have so much in the bank accounts as they have different rounds of funding for charity to apply for, and their projects range from 1-3 years where money is paid at different points throughout the project. Hope that makes sense.

Of course the BBC keeps aside some of the money in a fund. Many of the charities receive an ongoing grant every year as opposed to a single donation. You need to have a set-aside fund to ensure that funding can be maintained in, for example, years when less money is raised. The set-aside will be fully audited

Higher taxes for all is not really fair.
The government should be relied upon to fund the bare minimum - along with the assumption that the child's own family is the most responsible.
The people who can afford to pay more obviously do so and have to be shown where their money is best spent - hence the public appeals.

Without the public appeals we would all be ignorant of so many needy charities. It is uncomfortable to see the lives of others but that is their reality and they should not be stigmatised to hide their need for assistance.
Poeple who donate are worthy. That is a good thing to do.
We should not have to look away nor hide special needs.

Governments (our taxes) can not look after every aspect of all people's lives. It funds education, Arts, roads, health, housing, social security and so much more - all of which are not less worthy than helping families care for children with disabilities.

Celebrities often do corporate guest appearances. An evenings work is a whole years take home on minimum wage. Or a teachers salary if you are well known.
They can fundraise between themselves frankly.

Exactly. I refused to donate after reading how much money was "left over " from previous years.
Actually I refused to donate after finding out how much Terry Wogan was paid for his night of charity work.
It's appalling that they got children to go on National TV with their heartbreaking stories while sitting on millions of pounds in the bank

people are socially pressured for example at work places ect to act, or look like ridiculous 🙄 as a way of social inclusiveness,

so they are seen as a companies who just care ect...

Then you have z list celebrities such as Amanda Holden using this as a way to show her clevage enhancing arresting skimmy dress, and then theres that time Maths Genius tv presenter back in the day,
nowadays and some time acts like she's a Hollywood actress starlet trying to acctract the attention of film presenter
I can't rember her name now?

Oh yea and who's going to pay for these gold plated services you feel entitled to?
Everyone whines about having the highest taxes since year dot....but perhaps if we got our lazy, entitled kids off their backsides and contributing to the economy and taxes, then the country might be in better shape. We need to up our productivity pronto and the young should have energy to do it instead of languishing in a uni racking up debt and being indoctrinated.

What with the Job Centres telling folk not to work more than the minimum hours... because of course....getting UC is a gateway for claiming many more benefits....like having your rent paid, council tax free, prescriptions free and much more.
To then all the media Influencers, peddling aspirational lifestyles so that people watching feel inferior. What a waste of space they are, contributing zero to our country bar misery. Comparison is the thief of joy.
We have lost the resilience and cohesion of our forebears to strive to make things better and pay for the services we so desire.

"piss on pity", right? Iconic

In 1990 and 1992 ITV's telethon was disrupted by disability rights activists demanding inclusion. These were important moments in the social history of disability,

Yes totally agree with you thats the reality ,but that's like a fantasy of realms of peefect society, the idea of Government ensuring society essential services are financed properly ect,

I think what I find sightly quesy , 🧀 cheesy is the ridiculous lengths people are socially encouraged to seem like they are being up for it, having a laugh,
for this prominent uk event,
such as daft things for example sitting in a bath of cold beans,
how long can someone can stay in Bath tub or eat them whithout farting ?,

David Williams comedian and Author of children's stories that are very poor imitations of Roald Dhal well known children's stories,
Rember when he swam the Bristol English channel in the past?

Obviously it was amazing achievement,..but why put yourself something that's as extreme as that then?

Why run a 10k marathon for God's sake ect the list goes on?

I am susprised there hasn't been yet as far as I am aware?
a Children's in Need telethon, for "
I am Celebrity get me out of the Aussie style Jungle"

It's entertainment - I'm pretty sure they'd raise more money by shutting down BBC1 for the evening and donating the saved money to charity.

I think you'll find CIN has been going a lot longer than the last Tory govt have been in power

Good on them raising £33million

This...

I was never a huge fan of the format, but in the last decade my DD has benefitted so much from CIN, it funds a charity that provides supported activity weekends through the Calvert Trust, and family support days for those affected by her serious illness. We have to fill out detailed forms afterwards to be submitted back to CIN to prove that the funds are having a real impact. For disabled kids these type of activities would be completely inaccessible to most, so I'm really grateful for all it has done for us. If they don't fund this stuff then who will? Thank you so much to all those who kindly donated. Please don't put people off donating OP.

If you’ve ever had the misfortune to watch any day time TV, you’ll be astonished by the number of so called charities asking for funds, from all over the world allegedly.
They make me so cross.

I once followed employees of one through companies house, and then companies listed abroad for one such charity. All these men were getting million pound payments in divisions in Africa and other countries
I should have made a note of it all to be honest, it looks so bad.
I wouldn’t give them a penny.

I have a relative who worked for a bank and said it was heartbreaking to see the number of charity payments coming out of some of the older customers accounts each month, to these blasted TV advertising charities.

That's awful, I'm sorry that happened to your sister.
There's an account called disabledeliza on instagram who talks about being in a children's choir for the program, and how they were kept for hours in a hot cramped room which ended up making their symptoms worse.

They turned up at dsis special school once with no communication to the parents. The first we knew was when dsis was being held up as some poor victim to extract money from viewers.

Dm is still furious about her being used in this way, particularly as she has never received anything back in payment.

They are using vulnerable people to extort money by pulling on people's heartstrings. I wonder how many people were able to give proper, understood consent.