To think State education is really poor?

It’s cropping this country because it ensures social mobility is incredibly poor. There are many, many state educated people who could do the same jobs (and probably better) but they are held down, shut out. And so it goes on generation, after generation.

And yes yes to the previous poster’s point about regional spending educational inequalities. Yet another educational inequality the Tories have done nothing about.

It’s appalling and the majority are sick of it. The status quos needs to change.Those who buy privilege for their children are up in arms at the thought they may not be able to afford the luxury anymore which will mean their dc joining the ranks of everybody else. We see you. You don’t actually give a shit about anything else just your own children having access to unfair privilege. There is a reason parents pay ££££££ and often more than many people earn and it’s this.

That was the case at DD's school. Several years ago the school, along with the support of the parents and our MP successfully fought this to win a fairer slice of the funding cake.

@opticalconclusion "His family is a story of people who have worked hard to achieve. People Labour can’t bear."

What, people like Wes Streeting, Angela Rayner, Keir Starmer.....

No, social mobility plummeted when the universal 11+ was abolished. When I took it, in 1967, it was with my whole class from a very ordinary working class county primary school in rural west Cornwall. Three papers, English, Arithmetic and a reasoning paper. If you scored high, you went to Grammar School until you were 15. And then, most got an office job. If you didn't, you worked in the quarry or on a farm or for your family, because there were few alternatives. Military service perhaps. A handful, about 5%, went to university.

That’s just an opinion. Not a fact. Other opinions are available.

I can't see anything to be proud of in a private education sector that produces the next Rishi/Suella /Boris. I would be appalled if my children grew up with their values.

Social mobility has plummeted since the Tories were in power

(I am a floating voter, I am not a lefty).

I often muse that the the UK is a country that prefers gradual organic change rather than anything more radical. Safer, softer and more sustainable long term. It's not as broken as some suggest although there's always scope to do better, of course.

How is he doing that?

Labour are definitely doing that with their vat fee proposal. As has been documented on this thread and others.

Eh? Who brought up his race??

They can't fill jobs because mid career changer PGCE students, like me, refused to apply for jobs in classrooms to engage with the behaviour issues after qualification. I liked teaching, and teenagers, but with no effective disciplinary sanctions, it wasn't a task I was willing to perform. I don't have a vocation to transform sow's ears into silk purses and I wasn't bothered either way.

Sadly not @JimmyGrimble. My local independent school already had a teacher for my subject and because DH has a small business, relocation wasn't on the cards. I wanted to work, not a divorce.

Couldn’t you have worked in the independent sector?

And now he's busy kicking the ladder rungs off for everyone else and even supporting the deportation of people to Rwanda. Hardly a success story in my book. I would be devastated if my child took the stance Suella and Rishi etc have taken and I know many others who feel the same

They can't fill jobs because mid career changer PGCE students, like me, refused to apply for jobs in classrooms to engage with the behaviour issues after qualification. I liked teaching, and teenagers, but with no effective disciplinary sanctions, it wasn't a task I was willing to perform. I don't have a vocation and I wasn't bothered either way.

He is an abject failure as a politician though. That is the only point. His race has absolutely nothing to do with it.

What a ridiculous comment. Pathetic.

Perhaps he should have stayed being a waiter in a curry house. Where he belongs eh? How dare he make a success of his life.

It’s all part of the same shitshow. It’s what happens when a deliberate police of ‘austerity’ attacks the weakest in society. And who did that?

What a disparaging comment. If he were as incompetent with prescriptions as he is in government, the thought of him as a pharmacist is frankly quite terrifying.

You only have to have read reports in the media and posts on here to realise that teachers are often leaving because of behaviour problems. Society has changed hugely since 2010. Lockdowns have added to the issues. Those issues run far deeper than funding.

A career in stand up beckons, clearly

It’s true. ‘We’ can’t bear miserable, mendacious Tory failures.

Gimmy Jimble?

I’m a teacher. 25 years. Taught under Labour, taught under the Tories. Guess which one was better? ‘They’ can’t fill vacancies because of the way they have treated the profession since 2010.

His family is a story of people who have worked hard to achieve. People Labour can’t bear.

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/blog/discoveries/rishi-sunak-family-tree

He could have qualified as a pharmacist and still be dispensing your antibiotics from a Boots in Southampton. Would you like that better? Sunak's parents earned the funds to educate a clever lad to get to Winchester, and he built on it.

Suggest you change username to JimmyGrumble.