To think State education is really poor?

As people are allowed to disagree with you

“More bothered about getting into power than representing the views of their constituents.”

And we’ve not seen that before have we.😂

People are allowed to disagree with you.

Because it is always easier to spend other people's money than your own

You don’t have a clue about how parents will react because you are not faced with the same choices.

If I decide not to use PS I could easily leave a 500k hole in public finances. That is 1 child. You don’t need many to do likewise before this policy becomes a disaster for tax payers.

Where have I said ALL SEN? The screen shots from the I gives figures and is an independent paper.
There are actually concerns around: how will the state fund any DC who leave private schools, the impact on the 100,000+ kids with SEN who the state can't provide for plus the Heads of grammars being concerned about the impact on their schools. You realise there can be more than 1 strand to an argument?
You are so dismissive, are you Rachel Reeves because you have the same tunnel vision, not hearing the argument approach.
Funnily enough many Labour Prospective MPs don't support the policy either but daren't go against the Leadership. Not sure what that says for democracy 🤔 More bothered about getting into power than representing the views of their constituents.

I think it’s yours they’re after.

I’m pretty sure you can’t know for certain what the outcome will be, if it’s ‘scaremongering’ or not.

There’s always an excuse when the virtue signalling is called out.

Wow so we’ve switched from the tiny number of private kids who may leave hoovering up all the grammar places to now all being SEN.

As I said it’s just scaremongering driven by fee paying parents. Even journalism is unfairly over represented by the privately educated.

That's a different thing entirely. The poster is talking about contributing to a government policy increasing taxes to fund education and healthcare. Not some random individual voluntary payment.

Also had a school psychologist back in 2015 who worked in a number of schools different days around the borough. He didn’t last too long until budget cuts made him too expensive to keep on.

It’s the funding. It’s been hacked away at since Con/Lib then Con party in power.

DSs went to a leafy outstanding state secondary school where the youngest finished last year.

When DS1 started in 2015 things were starting to change. Compared to just the year before, funding was cut and classes grew from 25 to 28. Many extra curriculum activities were cut apart from sports and a small number of classes which needed to be paid for. It went from if you’re interested in an activity speak to a teacher and set it up, to it’s not possible. Michael Gove changed how GCSEs worked from lots of coursework to completely exam based for lots of subjects from 2015. It seemed to me lots of schools/teachers weren’t used to working like this at first as it was brought in very quickly, and also all exams and reams of content to learn regardless of ability put more stress and pressure on children affecting their mental health.

By the time DS2 started in 2018, class sizes had permanently grown to 30 pupils. The list of extra curriculum activities had grown even smaller. SN provision was very limited due to lack of funding. For DS1s cohort, those struggling had learning support where they had the lesson once in a small group for maths and English, then again in the normal lesson. This was stopped by the time DS2 got there.

A level classes were running at 30 in a class, where at one time this number of pupils would have been split into to classes.

And this is all in a school in an affluent area with very supportive parents, many of who were more than happy to set up monthly direct debits to contribute towards school finances. I can only imagine how this must all be affecting schools not quite so lucky.

You can pay additional voluntary income tax. The government has a website where you can do this. Unsurprisingly despite many people claiming they’d be happy to pay more the revenue raised via this route is almost nil.

They are their “ first steps” plans towards bigger plans.

There are much more effective and sustainable ways of raising revenue

But they have set out their plans

I am not defending the Tories but I am saying don't expect Labour to come riding in and wave a magic wand. They have been very careful not to promise anything at all other than VAT which has had holes ripped ij it. Even the authors of the IFS report now admit they were wildly optimistic and didn't account for SEN.

Yet. They’re not even in power yet.

ASI! No agenda whatsoever 😂

This is their mission statement copied from their website

We believe in:

Low, simple, flat taxes that encourage investment and innovation, and hence economic growth.
A voucher-based education system that gives parents and schools complete freedom over how and where children are educated.
A privately-provided, publicly-funded healthcare system where patient outcomes are the focus.
Freedom of trade with the world, and a liberal immigration system that is designed to work for migrants and natives alike.
A liberalised planning system that lets many more houses be built, so everyone can afford to own their own home.
A simple welfare system based around a Negative Income Tax or Basic Income that tops up the wages of the poor and guarantees that work always pays.
Free market money and an end to bailouts of private banks, in all their forms.

Oh give me a break. The Tories have caused the issues with work load and Ofsted- it’s all Tory driven .Re behaviour the Tories have done sfa for young people. There is no MH provision for adults of kids, no support with col crisis or housing, the curriculum is crap…. They’ve caused it all.

Actually they are leaving because of Ofsted, pupil behaviour and workload as well as funding. None of which is party political.
Labour haven't said they will increase funding per pupil, or even level up the discrepancy between funding in the North Vs South.

But yet they haven't said that they will

EDK also. Plus the I wrote a piece on the SEN issue in private schools of VAT is imposed

The reason teachers are leaving is because of Tory government. A labour government and change in education policy is waaay more likely to deal with recruitment issues .

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/jun/08/teachers-england-schools-figures-department-education-survey